[HN Gopher] Internet Artifacts
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       Internet Artifacts
        
       Author : mikerg87
       Score  : 600 points
       Date   : 2025-05-13 11:49 UTC (2 days ago)
        
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       | silisili wrote:
       | I'm not sure how younger folks would feel seeing this...perhaps
       | that it's ugly, less useful, sparse. And they'd be a bit right.
       | 
       | But for me this was a hit of pure nostalgia, flipping item to
       | item. Almost like looking through an old photo album of memories
       | you'd forgotten years back. Thanks Neal for putting it together.
       | 
       | Slightly fun fact - the original Space Jam site stayed intact
       | until 2021!
       | 
       | https://web.archive.org/web/20210105185246/https://www.space...
        
         | al_borland wrote:
         | They actually left the original Space Jam site up. I think the
         | developers knew its importance.
         | 
         | https://www.spacejam.com/1996/
        
           | silisili wrote:
           | Nice! Never knew that. I wish more companies with popular
           | sites did this. I'm sure it cost them about no money nor time
           | to just shovel it off like this.
        
           | Lammy wrote:
           | >look inside
           | 
           | >Google Analytics
        
             | reddalo wrote:
             | They moved everything under /1996 when the new movie came
             | out, and while doing so they broke some pages.
        
           | dag11 wrote:
           | Oh man I forgot all about <frameset> and <frame> tags to
           | create navigation. From the early days before we had dynamic
           | sites or static site generators with templates, we had our
           | browsers do our "templating" for us!
        
             | dowager_dan99 wrote:
             | frameset was THE basis for building manual-style resources
             | back in the day!
             | 
             | * nav header; search (if you could figure out how to make
             | it work)
             | 
             | * Table of contents
             | 
             | * main content pane
             | 
             | fun times!
        
           | yawnxyz wrote:
           | I love how the new Space Jam website is ALSO in the 90's
           | style! https://www.spacejam.com/2021/
        
           | slyall wrote:
           | They managed to break https://www.spacejam.com/ though. It
           | redirects to https://www.spacejamanewlegacy.net/ which has a
           | bad cert and then goes into a redirect loop.
           | 
           | So broken after just 4 years
        
             | genewitch wrote:
             | Hey give Disney a break they're a small company with only a
             | few employees. Maybe tbe certifier is on vacation.
        
               | backspace_ wrote:
               | Looney toons is a Warner Brothers property, not Disney.
        
               | genewitch wrote:
               | I wasn't thinking. you are of course correct. My brain
               | conflated because both are based in burbank. yeah, that's
               | what i am going with.
        
             | Thorrez wrote:
             | Hmm, I didn't get a redirect
             | https://www.spacejamanewlegacy.net/
        
               | shakna wrote:
               | I got the loop in both desktop Chrome and Firefox, as
               | well as Android Chrome, Brave and Firefox (though these
               | timed out after a few loops, unlike the desktop).
               | 
               | Were you maybe on Safari/iOS?
        
               | a57721 wrote:
               | http://www.spacejamanewlegacy.net/ responds with "HTTP
               | 301, Location: https://www.spacejam.com/"
        
         | Workaccount2 wrote:
         | I never particularly liked 50's or 60's aesthetic, and always
         | puzzled over how my parents could gush so hard over it.
         | 
         | Now, I totally get it.
        
         | JKCalhoun wrote:
         | A photo album that gets more and more depressing.
        
           | silisili wrote:
           | If your album is roughly chronological like mine... watching
           | the kids grow up, yourself and your spouse get fatter and
           | grayer....they -do- get more and more depressing :).
        
             | JKCalhoun wrote:
             | Yeah, so like life I guess. :-(
             | 
             | (Although you may have read recently as I have that 50
             | years old seems to be peak happiness for people self-
             | reporting happiness.)
        
         | causality0 wrote:
         | I found having to keep backtracking because one swipe advanced
         | two or three screens to be very annoying.
        
       | cyberax wrote:
       | I'm disappointed that Bad Apple!! is not there.
        
         | pedrogpimenta wrote:
         | I don't think bad apple was that big or important. I have just
         | recently discovered it and I've been surfing since 1996
        
           | casey2 wrote:
           | I'll say the same thing about all flash derivatives.
        
         | kome wrote:
         | also, why scaruffi.com is not there?
        
         | coldpie wrote:
         | It's been so bizarre to see that spike in popularity in the
         | past couple years. I was big into Touhou in high school in the
         | early-mid 2000s. I listened to Bad Apple and the rest of the
         | IOSYS Touhou library on burned CD-Rs in my car (yeah I was
         | super cool). Then, 20 years later the tune is suddenly
         | everywhere, hahah.
        
           | mrheosuper wrote:
           | Bad Apple is basically "Doom" of music video. It has display
           | ? It can play bad apple.
           | 
           | it's quite understandable. The video is in monochrome so very
           | easy to display, the animation is smooth and the detail is
           | not too demanding, so even on low resolution display you can
           | tell it's Bad Apple
        
       | al_borland wrote:
       | The hours I wasted on that helicopter game. It was the Flappy
       | Bird of its day.
        
       | fragmede wrote:
       | Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music was updated in 2019. Forever
       | ago in Internet years but more recent than the original.
        
         | rchaud wrote:
         | It is now an overengineered and soulless website lacking all
         | the personality that made the original a classic. It somehow
         | manages to also be laggy on modern machines.
        
       | pests wrote:
       | > Geocities had an interactive 2D map, allowing users to navigate
       | through these virtual spaces. (1994)
       | 
       | I got online around ~10 years old in ~1998 and got into web dev
       | soon after. I remember using Geocities and Angelfire and
       | FortuneWeb and all that but I do not remember this interactive 2D
       | map. I do remember the various "communities" or neighborhoods but
       | not this. Was it gone by this point or was I just so focused on
       | the free hosting I never noticed?
       | 
       | It took me a long time to realize the web was so new back when I
       | started out, less then a decade old itself. Pretty surreal to see
       | where its gone.
        
       | dev-slash-zero wrote:
       | I also would consider Digg to be the direct predecessor of
       | Reddit. If I recall correctly it was more popular until possibly
       | as late as 2010.
        
         | Loughla wrote:
         | I thought that was basic common Internet knowledge, that Digg
         | led straight to Reddit.
        
         | throwawaycities wrote:
         | Digg is being relaunched - with Alexis on board.
         | 
         | A bunch of the early internet brands are being
         | rebranded/relaunched which is collectively is being branded as
         | the nostalgic internet.
         | 
         | Napster, Limewire, Digg, GeoCities...to name a few
        
           | latexr wrote:
           | > A bunch of the early internet brands are being
           | rebranded/relaunched
           | 
           | More like recycled to lend credence to dubious grifts and
           | tangential services. Digg is all-in on AI; Napster is another
           | paid music streaming service; Limewire is another file locker
           | and an AI cryptocurrency1; GeoCities I'm not aware of a
           | revival.
           | 
           | > which is collectively is being branded as the nostalgic
           | internet.
           | 
           | Nothing about that is nostalgic or remotely related to the
           | old internet. The names are the same and some founders may
           | have returned, but the values and technologies are entirely
           | different.
           | 
           | 1 Whatever that even means in practice. Double-dip on a pile-
           | on of grifts, can never have too many hyped technologies!
        
             | throwawaycities wrote:
             | Besides GeoCities - the rest are being relaunched by SV VCs
             | and PE groups.
             | 
             | Napster was acquired and relaunched in crypto a few years
             | ago and just resold for $100M+ to a metaverse company
             | immediately following a new raise at a $1B+ valuation.
             | 
             | So yeah it's acquiring historic IP by VC/PE to resell to
             | friends that are using someone else's funds. Considering
             | the .com boom and era of publicly traded big tech giving
             | golden parachutes to friends (buying their companies and
             | shutting them down) - it's very nostalgic.
        
               | rchaud wrote:
               | Napster is so old that I remember its DMCA-compliant
               | reboot from 20 years ago. My college gave students free
               | access to it, all the music was a DRM'd WMA file. Most
               | people who used it also downloaded a DRM-removal program
               | to be able to put it on shared drives and MP3 players.
        
           | rchaud wrote:
           | "Alexis on board" has about as much value as saying "Richard
           | Branson is an investor". The difference in their goals now vs
           | when they were young and hungry is in orders of magnitude.
           | They are old, out of touch and spread too thin to do anything
           | noteworthy in rebooting an old brand. They're lending their
           | name for credibility, in exchange for equity and board seats.
        
         | tantalor wrote:
         | fark.com
        
           | 0xEF wrote:
           | Fark feels like the echo of a dream these days. It's like the
           | Friendster of news aggregators; it came on the scene first,
           | set the tone for everything that followed, then faded from
           | memory.
        
           | RankingMember wrote:
           | I only knew it through the lens of it being a (good natured)
           | punching bag of somethingawful.com. Today it's still up and
           | being updated regularly, while somethingawful hasn't had a
           | new article in half a decade+.
        
             | the_af wrote:
             | Something Awful is also missing from this history. Maybe
             | too niche? Though for geeks and gamers it was well known,
             | and (checks Wikipedia) it was launched on 1999...
             | 
             | It was certainly a notable part of the internet culture of
             | the era.
        
               | RankingMember wrote:
               | I think it might not be well-known how much of current
               | internet culture cascaded out from the hive that was the
               | SA forums. 4chan was started by an SA goon, as was
               | bellingcat, for example.
        
               | the_af wrote:
               | Wow. I knew about 4chan but not about bellingcat having
               | its roots in SA.
        
             | GuinansEyebrows wrote:
             | Drew Curtis Presents Drew Curtis' Fark.com By Drew Curtis
        
         | FuriouslyAdrift wrote:
         | "...the top 100 Digg users are responsible for more than half
         | of the content that reaches the Digg front page. Furthermore,
         | there could be as few as 20 'superusers' who are responsible
         | for submitting 25 per cent of Digg's front-page stories. If you
         | do the maths, you'll realise that anyone could set up a company
         | with that many employees and have a far more interesting and
         | diverse front page... "
         | 
         | https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/digg-is-dead-twitter-kil...
        
           | rchaud wrote:
           | Most people visited Digg for the comments, not so much the
           | posts themselves.
        
         | NoSalt wrote:
         | My social media path is this:
         | 
         | SpyMac - Slashdot - Digg - Reddit
         | 
         | Not sure where I picked up on Hacker News ... probably from a
         | Reddit link.
        
       | lucyjojo wrote:
       | would be cool for it to be less west/america-centric.
        
         | urbandw311er wrote:
         | You mean the Internet? ;-)
        
         | kome wrote:
         | I was thinking the same. this is a very american centric vision
         | of the internet - especially when it comes to the websites
         | mentioned
        
           | 47282847 wrote:
           | Works for me as a German, online since 96.
           | 
           | Oh please yes create a version that applies to your cultural
           | background and how you experienced the net!
        
             | kome wrote:
             | what about https://web.archive.org/web/20010630195810/http:
             | //www.fireba... or studiVZ, knuddels, or even xing, for
             | example?
             | 
             | now all the internet is basically an oligopoly, but in the
             | late 90s and early 2000s there was much more variety, and
             | any historiography of the early internet should consider
             | that, indeed.
        
             | 0xEF wrote:
             | > Oh please yes create a version that applies to your
             | cultural background and how you experienced the net!
             | 
             | As an American, I'd love to see this. Been online since AOL
             | came on 3.5" floppies, but I know the US-centric version is
             | only half the story. An example I was exploring recently
             | was Tetetext which I have no memory of in the US. From what
             | I understand, only a handful of bigger cities tried it and
             | it simply was not that popular here. Growing up, we also
             | had the perception that the BBC, in general, was a stuffy
             | old news corp and had no real idea about the BBC Micro
             | since Commodore and Atari dominated here. As an adult, it
             | feels like I missed out on half the computing world back
             | before things became a bit more interconnected.
             | 
             | If someone is up for making such a site, I'd be interested
             | in watching or even contributing if I have anything
             | valuable to offer.
        
             | romanhn wrote:
             | I was online (in the US) since mid-90s as well, so
             | definitely many of these artifacts resonate. That said, I
             | was also a new transplant from Russia so was looking for
             | anything I could find from my homeland - there was very
             | little. I could probably count Russian-language websites
             | (those I could find, anyways) on my fingers, and they all
             | IIRC were university-based. I do believe there was a lively
             | BBS tradition via FidoNet, but I never got into that. Circa
             | '97 I was stoked to find a .wav fragment of a new song
             | (still remember which one!), the first audio file I
             | happened upon. By 2000 Russian-speaking web was huge and I
             | was downloading music videos and full movies from FTP
             | dumps.
        
         | forgotoldacc wrote:
         | That's a byproduct of being a site made by an English speaker.
         | 
         | Kind of hard to make a site about things you don't know from
         | languages you don't speak. It's completely possible for people
         | from other places and speakers of other languages to make their
         | own versions of this site.
         | 
         | And I don't mean that in a dismissive way. Every culture has
         | their own history. It's worth recording.
        
         | yaky wrote:
         | Here are some staples of the 2000s runet that I recall (haven't
         | been there since then really)
         | 
         | - bash.org.ru, IT and programmer humor site that produced some
         | classic memes (I know of the American one, but this one was its
         | own thing)
         | 
         | - Masyanya, popular flash cartoon series.
         | 
         | - Padonki internet slang, Russian that is distorted, misspelled
         | and vulgar, similar to leetspeak.
        
       | bibelo wrote:
       | When I see Neal, I know it's gonna be Fun
        
       | garylkz wrote:
       | I remember researching about early era of internet while trying
       | to make a game for a game jam about online shopping, and damn, it
       | sure is a deep rabbit hole.
        
       | jofzar wrote:
       | I was blown away with how great of a website and resource this
       | was and the way that things loaded (to emulate old internet) then
       | saw it was neal.fun
       | 
       | Neal.fun always kills it with these things. Love them so much.
        
         | cgannett wrote:
         | Gotta love a Neal.fun post
        
       | jrowen wrote:
       | Very cool. Interesting bit about Heaven's Gate. I was young when
       | it happened and have a vague memory of reading a Time magazine
       | article with a cross-sectional drawing of the building with
       | people in beds in different rooms.
       | 
       | Reading up on Wikipedia, I don't understand how they got from
       | "sleeping in tents and sleeping bags and begging in the streets"
       | in 1975, to "stopped recruiting and became reclusive" in 1976, to
       | purchasing land, renting a $7000 house with cash, and operating a
       | cutting-edge web design firm in the mid-90s.
        
         | pavlov wrote:
         | Maybe they came into money in 1976: somebody got an
         | inheritance, they recruited a whale, etc.
         | 
         | That would explain why they suddenly became reclusive: the
         | leader doesn't want the people with the money exposed to the
         | outside world.
        
         | jbeninger wrote:
         | Cults will surprise you. When like-minded people are willing to
         | put everything they have into a project, 18 hours a day with no
         | breaks, they can accomplish a lot.
        
           | jrowen wrote:
           | Oh I've seen Wild Wild Country, that made sense to me and
           | there's a logical thread to follow. Osho was also (for some
           | time) a legitimately intelligent and charismatic
           | leader/writer/philosopher able to rally smart people.
           | 
           | The story here on Wikipedia paints a picture of a destitute
           | super-fringe cult that disappears for 20 years and then
           | emerges with some level of tech wizardry and no mention of
           | anyone that was responsible for that. There is an HBO
           | docuseries.
        
       | OgsyedIE wrote:
       | As fun as the opportunity to reminisce about the likes of line
       | rider was, I'm disappointed to see the omission of clippy, the
       | wayback machine, livejournal, yahoo answers, something awful,
       | google groups, xkcd, temple OS, stumbleupon, lycos, activex,
       | toolbars, ytmnd, hypercam, winrar, Ted Stevens, slashdot and
       | doubleclick.
       | 
       | Some of them are more deserving of a slot than others.
        
       | forferdet wrote:
       | In terms of internet culture, newgrounds deserves a mention!
       | Technically still up, but not the same, as with most things.
        
       | JohnKemeny wrote:
       | Recently posted: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43943407 (1
       | comment)
       | 
       | Posted in 2023: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38013477 (71
       | comments)
        
       | Funes- wrote:
       | Nice site. I miss the pre social media, pre-hypercommercial, pre
       | mass surveillance Internet of old. It was mostly the product of
       | genuine, sincere self-expression. Now it feels and even works
       | like an infomercial, a scam, everywhere you look, filled to the
       | brim with grifters and corporations trying to take ahold of your
       | attention (and money). It's disgusting and inefficient at almost
       | anything you attempt to do on it because of that terrible fact.
       | It used to serve as a refuge from all the ailments sprung out of
       | the hypercapitalistic endeavours and otherwise fakeness of the
       | modern world, and its enforcers: normies. For many, many years
       | now, it's been the exact opposite: it's turned into the epitome
       | of what it helped us escape from, and it permeates every moment
       | of our waking lives, directly or indirectly.
       | 
       | The site's list ends very appropriately with the iPhone's
       | presentation in 2007. The beginning of the end.
        
         | epiccoleman wrote:
         | > It used to serve as a refuge from all the ailments sprung out
         | of the hypercapitalistic endeavours and otherwise fakeness of
         | the modern world
         | 
         | This line really stuck out to me. I really miss that feeling of
         | the old net too. It occurs to me that a lot of my usage of the
         | modern net is chasing that old feeling - which is sadly largely
         | absent.
         | 
         | Still, there's good left - the sincere self-expression is still
         | out there - you just have to search in the cracks and niches.
         | 
         | The sad thing is that the modern internet has made the need for
         | the "old school internet" worse. We need that refuge from the
         | grift and the bullshit now more than we've ever needed it.
        
         | yaky wrote:
         | Check out the simpler Internet through the gemini protocol [0].
         | It's lightweight on purpose, and the capsules (gemini "sites")
         | are mostly text. There are aggregators [1] and even search [2].
         | 
         | 0: https://geminiprotocol.net/
         | 
         | 1: gemini://warmedal.se/~antenna/
         | 
         | 2: Gemini://kennedy.gemi.dev/
        
           | Funes- wrote:
           | >Check out the simpler Internet through the gemini protocol
           | [0].
           | 
           | Heh. I've been around the block in terms of compulsively
           | trying to find alternatives to the ill-fated world wide web,
           | my friend. I've hosted content on many of them, too,
           | including gemini, which I really liked.
        
       | dspillett wrote:
       | WRT "You Wouldn't Steal a Car":
       | 
       |  _> ironically, the ad's music was used without the creator's
       | permission._
       | 
       | The font was not correctly licensed either.
        
         | the_af wrote:
         | Also, we can safely say the advert completely failed on its
         | mission.
         | 
         | I never saw it mentioned in anything but the most derisive and
         | mocking terms.
        
       | throwawaycities wrote:
       | History became legend. Legend became myth. And for two and a half
       | thousand years, internet lore passed out of all knowledge. Until,
       | when chance came, the lore ensnared a new bearer.
        
       | ashishact wrote:
       | Beautiful. Would be helpful to see dates as well
        
       | 3by7 wrote:
       | Missing the "under construction" gif, a visits counter, and...
       | goatse.
        
         | linsomniac wrote:
         | So today you woke up and chose violence? :-)
        
         | bee_rider wrote:
         | I miss the days when I would be a dumbass teenager online and
         | somebody would, appropriately, send me to goatse or meatspin or
         | something.
         | 
         | Nowadays if you are a dumbass teenager online, YouTube funnels
         | you into some bizarre extremism political thing instead.
        
         | textfiles wrote:
         | http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction/
        
       | maxehmookau wrote:
       | Cool, well there goes my afternoon to watch Strong Bad Emails.
        
       | pbronez wrote:
       | Love Tom's Diner, didn't know it was used as an early mp3
       | benchmark.
        
       | srvmshr wrote:
       | For me, the greatest bit of nostalgia came from seeing the
       | Netscape Navigator Meteors. (Going further I found this link,
       | which also echoes how rare it is nowadays to see a working
       | version
       | 
       | https://erynwells.me/blog/2023/08/netscape-meteors/ )
       | 
       | It has been a while & the browser has such a storied history.
       | When I was a middle schooler, I remember my elder sibling (a
       | college CS major) explaining the chatter around 'IE4 vs.
       | Netscape' monopoly case enthusiastically. It was quite likely the
       | biggest talking point among tech community back then, along with
       | the Microsoft Antitrust litigation soon after.
       | 
       | By turn of the millennium, it was on its demise paving way for
       | Mozilla Firefox (with its early dragon/godzilla icon). As I
       | understand early Firefox also built onwards from Netscape
       | codebase (which would have soon shuttered) as a starting point &
       | took the open source path. The last Navigator version I used
       | probably was packed with Netscape Communicator suite @ v6.1
       | 
       | Pure nostalgia. This brought back so many memories
        
         | PopAlongKid wrote:
         | I was inspired by this comment to install Netscape 7.02 from my
         | installer archive.[0] It too has a logo with meteors, but it is
         | circle-shaped instead of square, and the meteors follow a more
         | winding path from top to bottom.
         | 
         | Interestingly, when I first tried to install, it said something
         | like "A version of Netscape is detected already running", which
         | is because as you state Firefox was based on Netscape code.
         | Here is the "About" description:
         | 
         | Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.2; en-US; rv:1.0.2)
         | Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02
         | 
         | [0] I tried earlier versions, but they all wanted to download
         | the full install from an FTP site that is no longer responding.
        
         | textfiles wrote:
         | It's not THAT rare to see a working version.
         | 
         | http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction/netscape/
        
       | cainxinth wrote:
       | So fun! I adore everything this guy makes!
        
       | alnwlsn wrote:
       | It's a shame it ended right when I started. There's at least a
       | generation or two or three of cool stuff between 2007 and now.
        
         | mrheosuper wrote:
         | I remember "copypasta" was a hit during late 2000s
        
       | oceansky wrote:
       | "It was responsible for one of the first online web purchases - A
       | large pepperoni and mushroom pizza, with extra cheese."
       | 
       | Two students had already sold weed to each other over two decades
       | prior.
        
       | james_chu wrote:
       | Thank you for letting me see the development process of
       | computers. This is an incredible experience, truly unforgettable.
       | Seeing Yahoo from 1994 was amazing. The interactive exhibit is
       | fantastic, and I really love this
        
       | casey2 wrote:
       | Shame that the Iphone killed the internet seems like it had
       | potential
        
         | rchaud wrote:
         | This doesn't get said enough. The widescreen desktop Internet
         | (even at 800 x 600) was far more creative and fun than the
         | modern transactional app world. The 2008-10 era iOS apps being
         | a rare exception, but that too was snuffed out due to changing
         | App Store guidelines that punished silly apps and favoured the
         | recurring revenue cargo cult.
        
       | youheard wrote:
       | the site design is beautiful
        
         | jhbadger wrote:
         | And I didn't notice at first, but many of the exhibits are
         | interactive. For example the entry of the Hacker's Dictionary
         | looks like just a picture of a terminal with an entry from the
         | dictionary displayed, but the image is "live" and you can
         | scroll through the entire dictionary!
        
       | jetrink wrote:
       | I jumped over to the Wikipedia page of early blogger Justin Hall
       | to see what he's up to. He has another distinction that he can
       | probably claim: The longest recorded gap between registering a
       | domain and finally using it to start a business.
       | 
       | "In September 2017, Hall began work as co-founder & Chief
       | Technology Officer for bud.com, a California benefit corporation
       | delivering recreational cannabis, built on a domain name he
       | registered in 1994."
        
         | rob wrote:
         | I think domains were even free in 1994. I think the owner of
         | rob.com told me he just had to send in a form or something back
         | then.
        
           | qingcharles wrote:
           | They were. I think it was 1995 they started charging? I had
           | dozens of domains. There was a simple text file form you had
           | to type over. Then they started charging $200/2yr for
           | .com/.net/.org and a lot of us let our domains go which ended
           | up being worth tens of millions a few years later during the
           | boom.
           | 
           | (the story at the time of what killed the "free" is that
           | Unilever mailed in 19,000 forms; one for each of their
           | registered trademarks)
        
         | chubot wrote:
         | That reminded me of Orkut, which was a social networking
         | product, but created by Orkut Buyukkokten.
         | 
         | So he just reused his personal domain name for the product!
         | https://orkut.com/
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orkut
        
           | dekhn wrote:
           | later, he held onto hello.com for years with a "coming soon!
           | the next network from orkut!" Supposedly you could get an
           | invite but I don't know anybody who ever actually used it.
        
           | AndrewStephens wrote:
           | This reminds me of the joke about the guy who couldn't afford
           | a vanity number plate for his car so he changed his name to
           | CK-16450
        
       | simonlc wrote:
       | Was WASD even around back during doom2?
        
       | the_af wrote:
       | Very cool.
       | 
       | Some of these I had never heard of, and some of course are early
       | internet history that happened when I was too young. It's crazy
       | how some still seem very recent in my memory, like Homestar
       | Runner. It still feels like yesterday.
       | 
       | Never heard of the helicopter game though. An early "Flappy
       | Bird"!
       | 
       | I wish the series continued past 2007, since there are some
       | interesting artifacts beyond that date.
        
       | SchwKatze wrote:
       | Super cool!! I used to play a lot of flash games in my childhood,
       | pure nostalgia
        
       | alexpotato wrote:
       | This was amazing and reminded me of the first time I heard an
       | mp3.
       | 
       | I was a freshman in college (Fall 1997) and the only music we had
       | access to was either CDs or the radio.
       | 
       | Technically, you could download a .wav of a song but it was super
       | slow (even on fast university networks) and they were huge so you
       | couldn't save that many on the hard drives of the time.
       | 
       | One day, I hear multiple songs coming from my room. Songs that
       | neither I nor my roommate had on CDs. And it clearly wasn't the
       | radio as the songs kept switching quickly with no commercials.
       | 
       | I distinctly remember thinking "Wait, how is he doing that? He
       | doesn't have those songs!"
       | 
       | Makes me wonder what technology is going to have that impact on
       | my kids.
        
         | sitkack wrote:
         | It is AI, you can talk and have computers respond.
        
       | archon1410 wrote:
       | The "first MP3", without the background music, and just the
       | voice, sounds a lot better to me than the original I listened to
       | on YouTube. I liked the MP3 more.
       | 
       | Any way for me to find similar stuff? Just a good voice singing
       | stuff, without music? I know acapella, and some of it is good,
       | but I'm thinking of something more specific. Just one person
       | singing without music I guess, something poetic.
        
         | meta-meta wrote:
         | https://youtu.be/Nnl51fYpmdg?si=6Y2GhqfP_r0ArVHm&t=11
        
         | pimlottc wrote:
         | The acapella version of "Tom's Diner" is, in fact, the
         | original. The dance version was first put out as an
         | unauthorized remix, but Suzanne Vega liked it and they
         | negotiated an agreement.
        
       | pingou wrote:
       | How does Heaven's Gate server manage to stay online? Do they also
       | update it to keep up with security patches or that isn't
       | necessary?
        
         | textfiles wrote:
         | There are members of the cult who took the sacrifice to not
         | follow the others to the comet and maintain the cult's presence
         | and memory on the doomed Earth. They give interviews now and
         | then.
        
       | lossolo wrote:
       | No mention of AltaVista?
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltaVista
       | 
       | PS. Astalavista was also fun :)
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astalavista.box.sk
        
         | vt240 wrote:
         | Yeah, I agree that is pretty glaring omission. To myself at
         | least, Altavista was a huge part of that small slice of time,
         | where it seemed instantly, the whole world finally got online
         | with dial-up PPP, opposed to earlier when we might have been
         | accessing the internet through gateways at a BBS, or dialup
         | shell access from the local library or ISP.
         | 
         | I'm sure things seemed quite different if you were on a college
         | campus at the time.
        
       | jmmv wrote:
       | Really cool website. I like the interactivity of every little
       | artifact.
       | 
       | The progressive loading of images in the "embedded browsers" is
       | annoying though. I'm not sure if it's because all images "load"
       | at the same speed (this wasn't true with dialup), or if it's
       | because the animation gets old very quickly.
        
       | metadat wrote:
       | Lots of great memories beautifully bottled up and impeccably
       | presented (as we've come to expect from Neal). I was hoping the
       | million dollar homepage would be included, and wasn't
       | disappointed. :-)
       | 
       | Did anyone else notice how the audio stops playing when you slide
       | to the next screen, _except for zombo.com_? Haha.
       | 
       | Related Artifacts:
       | 
       |  _" Here comes another bubble"_ -
       | https://youtube.com/watch?v=SvmNDym6CvQ (dotcom startup boom)
       | 
       |  _BonziBUDDY_ - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BonziBuddy
       | (predatory browser extension dressed up as your friend)
       | 
       |  _Digg_ - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digg (reddit predecessor)
       | 
       |  _RuneScape_ - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RuneScape /
       | https://play.runescape.com/
       | 
       |  _Ultima Online_ - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultima_Online /
       | https://uo.com
       | 
       |  _Demoscene_ - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoscene
       | 
       |  _Warez_ - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_warez_groups
       | 
       | I'm sure there were other notable phenomenons that didn't make
       | the cut, what did I miss?
        
         | ErneX wrote:
         | Instant messaging apps like ICQ for example.
        
       | pawanjswal wrote:
       | Crazy to think this humble network of 111 terminals basically
       | sparked the entire internet revolution!
        
       | drivers99 wrote:
       | It'd be interesting to see some early versions of wired.com. For
       | a while, they had constantly changing visually impressive things
       | going on that I didn't even know were possible with HTML /
       | browsers of the time.
        
       | mrheosuper wrote:
       | > Appearing in 1997, Ask Jeeves revolutionized search by allowing
       | users to make queries with natural language
       | 
       | Man Ask Jeeves was way overhead its time.
        
         | rchaud wrote:
         | Ask Jeeves as a search engine was pretty awful. The natural
         | language thing was a UX gimmick because it was a time when
         | internet users wrote in full sentences. The pendulum has now
         | swung the other way where the search engine now writes out
         | things for us because its users can't write more than 140 chars
         | at a time.
        
       | hoshikihao wrote:
       | very interesting
        
       | spoonsort wrote:
       | That just reminded me of original 128MB MP3 players, loaded
       | straight from Napster. Ironically, I still struggle to fill an
       | average sized modern equivalent with 512GB, even with FLAC.
        
       | Dwedit wrote:
       | It mentions a few classic flash movies, but doesn't mention the
       | Flash hosting site Newgrounds.
        
       | accrual wrote:
       | This was fantastic. There are so many possible artifacts that
       | could be covered. Would be cool if each year could be extended to
       | include multiple artifacts! The "Ultimate Showdown" song is
       | apparently still perfectly preserved in my mind. :)
        
       | joeframbach wrote:
       | When I think early 2000s I think Jagex Games Domain Castle.
        
       | BizarroLand wrote:
       | Les horribles Cernettes (the band pictured in "the first photo on
       | the internet") have a music video on youtube for their song
       | "Collider" if you want to hear it:
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf4bmANuR-c
        
       | mdb333 wrote:
       | surprised no mention of Craigslist? or is it not an "Internet
       | artifact" because it remains in essentially its original form...?
        
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