[HN Gopher] As US vuln-tracking falters, EU enters with its own ...
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       As US vuln-tracking falters, EU enters with its own security bug
       database
        
       Author : voxadam
       Score  : 106 points
       Date   : 2025-05-13 12:58 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.theregister.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.theregister.com)
        
       | ta1243 wrote:
       | The is from a 2022 EU directive, well before recent US government
       | actions, it's been developed for quite some time.
        
         | OJFord wrote:
         | TFA doesn't hide or sensationalise that, makes the point that
         | it's timely.
        
         | Kon-Peki wrote:
         | The EU Cyber Resilience Act, which is now in effect (but not
         | fully enforced until 2027/2028), has additional details and
         | also includes a reporting requirement (articles 14, 15, and
         | 16).
        
       | devrandoom wrote:
       | It's sad to see the US being dismantled from within.
        
         | loloquwowndueo wrote:
         | Is it though? _pass the popcorn_
        
           | lenerdenator wrote:
           | For most sane people, yes.
        
         | Duwensatzaj wrote:
         | I'm very torn. Obviously USAID, NSF and academia in general do
         | valuable things. But when organizations get hijacked and used
         | as a slush fund to fund naked ideological activities and
         | organizations barely related to the original purpose, I'm not
         | surprised when the eventual response is to just hack and slash.
         | I wish it was done more thoughtfully and carefully, but that
         | doesn't appear to be a choice. Just a choice of funding hostile
         | NGOs and academics who endorse discrimination in education,
         | employment, health care and even law nowadays or the current
         | mess. It all sucks and I don't have any solutions other than
         | focusing on my career and family.
        
           | stavros wrote:
           | I'm out of the loop, can you give some context as to what
           | you're talking about? What were they funding?
        
           | wvenable wrote:
           | > But when organizations get hijacked
           | 
           | I haven't seen any reasonable evidence on this. I'm not
           | saying that evidence doesn't exist, it's just everything that
           | I've heard so far as been debunked. The current
           | administration has been shown to lie and exaggerate over and
           | over to justify these actions so I don't know why anyone
           | would assume they're telling the truth about _this_.
        
       | gadders wrote:
       | "Register readers -- especially those tasked with vulnerability
       | management -- will recall that the US government's funding for
       | the CVE program was set to expire in April until the US
       | Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, aka CISA,
       | swooped in at the 11th hour and renewed the contract with MITRE
       | to operate the initiative."
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Monument_syndrome
        
       | j_walter wrote:
       | >>>and quietly rolled out a limited-access beta version last
       | month during a period of uncertainty surrounding the United
       | States' Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) program.
       | 
       | You mean the 24 hour period where people freaked out and assumed
       | things that weren't true? The renewal came down to the wire just
       | like most do during negotiations...MITRE tossed the news out
       | there to stir up concerns but it was all just sensationalized. A
       | "funding lapse" is not the same as "contract not renewed yet"...
        
         | lesuorac wrote:
         | "This comes after the Feds decided not to renew their long-
         | standing contract with nonprofit research hub MITRE to operate
         | the CVE database." [1]
         | 
         | Doesn't seem like an untrue assumption. Feds decided not to
         | renew the contract, people got upset, and later the feds
         | decided to renew the contract the night it would expire [1].
         | 
         | This is like saying Y2K is a nothingburger because people
         | updated the code to handle more than 2 digit years. It's
         | because of the people getting upset that triggered a
         | preventative measure preventing the problem. It's just the
         | superman movie [2], if the kid just listened to clark kent then
         | superman would've never been necessary.
         | 
         | [1]:
         | https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/16/cve_program_funding_s...
         | 
         | [2]: https://youtu.be/-ikd_hRnVR4?t=69
        
           | j_walter wrote:
           | Review Peter Allor's comments...struggles on who pays and who
           | should be the long term controller of this program was what
           | led to the push right up to the last minute. As usual in
           | government if you don't push hard enough nothing will
           | change...and I still see nothing from CISA regarding their
           | views on what happened...all we see is conjecture from MITRE
           | and joy because they got their $$$.
        
       | tptacek wrote:
       | This is a weird headline, because CISA did in fact end up funding
       | NVD.
       | 
       | I wish people cared less about this particular issue, though,
       | because we'd do fine with a non-government-sponsored CVE.
        
         | daveguy wrote:
         | Well it certainly did falter (but not cease) due to incompetent
         | leadership and guidance. We are seeing it throughout the
         | government because the primary goal of this administration is
         | to dismantle so that it can be reformed for their benefit.
         | 
         | It's more of a "break fast and move things" approach.
        
           | stogot wrote:
           | Nothing broke beyond perception. It's still operating roughly
           | as before right?
        
             | DrillShopper wrote:
             | Yes, but who in industry is going to expect it to be there
             | in the future given what the current administration is
             | doing?
        
               | tptacek wrote:
               | MITRE could just take the existing database and pass a
               | hat around to industry and keep the current program
               | going.
        
         | hanlonsrazor wrote:
         | Quite so. I would love to see an open sourced CVE database. It
         | is for the public, it should be by the public.
        
           | c7b wrote:
           | What do you mean? A government service is a public service,
           | by any conventional use of the term. Public/private is
           | orthogonal to open source.
        
             | aerostable_slug wrote:
             | Community-maintained might be a better phrasing.
             | 
             | There's no particular reason a vulnerability database needs
             | to be government-sponsored, and some compelling reasons why
             | it shouldn't be "owned" by one government or another (one
             | being guaranteed continuity even during seasons of change).
        
         | tedivm wrote:
         | Yeah, this was going to happen regardless of the US.
         | 
         | > The European Union Agency for Cybersecurity (ENISA) first
         | announced the project in June 2024 under a mandate from the
         | EU's Network and Information Security 2 Directive, and quietly
         | rolled out a limited-access beta version last month during a
         | period of uncertainty surrounding the United States' Common
         | Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) program.
        
       | davidw wrote:
       | If European leaders were quick on their feet and smart, they
       | would be dialing up the "brain-draining" of the US to 11.
        
         | t-writescode wrote:
         | What would that look like? I imagine most Europeans don't want
         | to recreate the United Stated and its personality in their
         | countries, for example.
         | 
         | And many countries already have relatively easy visa processes
         | for skilled workers, which would be what these scientists,
         | developers, etc are.
        
           | davidw wrote:
           | Importing a bunch of scientists wouldn't 'recreate the US'. A
           | decent number of the scientists are probably not originally
           | from the US anyway.
           | 
           | It'd involve spending money to sponsor research and clear a
           | path for people to come over. Make it _really_ easy.
        
           | Asraelite wrote:
           | Fast-tracked citizenship.
        
           | ironmagma wrote:
           | The brains are not the problem in this scenario.
        
         | Havoc wrote:
         | They kinda did already
         | 
         | https://arstechnica.com/science/2025/05/europe-launches-prog...
         | 
         | Not a massive program, but shows there is intent
        
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