[HN Gopher] Coffee for people who don't like coffee
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       Coffee for people who don't like coffee
        
       Author : ostwilkens
       Score  : 9 points
       Date   : 2025-05-10 13:46 UTC (3 days ago)
        
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       | k310 wrote:
       | The article discusses a drip system which I used to use under a
       | different name, but went away.
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       | It has a cone with a filter mesh and a valve that remains closed
       | as long as the cone and its integral base are sitting on a level
       | surface, but which opens when you place it on a cup.
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       | It's now called "Clever Dripper"
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       | The main reason I got one is because it's so easy to empty the
       | grinds after use, unlike a French Press, even the one that has a
       | built-in scoop below the grinds that you lift via a handle. Of
       | course, any filter facilitates this operation, but the
       | convenience of "brew 4 minutes and park it over your cup" is
       | nice.
        
       | cwegener wrote:
       | The Clever Dripper is indeed a really neat invention. One of the
       | old school specialty coffee guys in my city did recommend it. I
       | have yet to move away from my french press though. I don't mind
       | the little bit of extra effort of the french press.
       | 
       | since you're in the EU (I assume), check friedhats.com for some
       | fancy roasts
       | 
       | EDIT: oh, and if you dont mind - what was the cheap grinder you
       | got?
        
         | pivo wrote:
         | I used a French press for many years and loved it but in the
         | past few years I've started to prefer lighter roasts and I
         | think the Clever dripper does those a bit better. I also think
         | that the Clever is a tiny bit more work than a French press,
         | not less. I'm happy to have both options, and also my Hario
         | Switch on occasion as well.
        
       | lylejantzi3rd wrote:
       | A radiation safety officer from UC Berkeley already invented
       | coffee for people who hate coffee. He calls it The Black Blood of
       | the Earth.
       | 
       | A quarter of the sales are sent to his fixer who looks after the
       | babushkas in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone.
       | 
       | https://shop.funraniumlabs.com/
        
       | eximius wrote:
       | I drink chai lattes instead of coffee. Never could get on board
       | with the bitter, brown bean water.
        
         | brookside wrote:
         | Chai from a coffee shop or mix is a sugar drink, which is why
         | it is delicious.
        
       | kmm wrote:
       | I thought coffee for people who don't like coffee was instant
       | coffee? The linked Clever Dripper seems like it's comparatively a
       | bit more effort and waste.
       | 
       | Apart from the advantage of instant preparation, to my
       | undiscerning palate instant coffee has got all the qualities and
       | taste of coffee I enjoy, and not being a coffee-connoisseur, I
       | can't be disappointed by its apparent blandness or one-
       | dimensionality.
        
         | SoftTalker wrote:
         | Yeah instant coffee is fine. Not great, but not any worse than
         | any drip brewed supermarket coffee.
        
         | karaterobot wrote:
         | [delayed]
        
       | nkrisc wrote:
       | 1. Good beans. Something not roasted to a charred crisp (looking
       | at you, Starbucks). Eat a coffee bean by itself. If it tastes bad
       | on its own, it'll probably taste bad in the brew too. I enjoy
       | munching a few beans while I make my coffee.
       | 
       | 1.5 Buy your beans whole and grind them. It really makes a
       | difference.
       | 
       | 2. Clean water. If your water tastes bad, so will the coffee. I
       | just use filtered water from the fridge.
       | 
       | 3. No science here from me, but after some trial and error I
       | think 190F is a good temp. Might simply be because it's at a
       | drinkable temperature around the time it's ready to drink
       | (depending on how you make it).
       | 
       | I just make it in a small pot that is essentially a tea infuser.
       | I basically just steep coarse grounds for about 5 min at 190F.
        
         | pton_xd wrote:
         | > Eat a coffee bean by itself. If it tastes bad on its own,
         | it'll probably taste bad in the brew too. I enjoy munching a
         | few beans while I make my coffee.
         | 
         | This just doesn't make sense to me. There are a great number of
         | beans and vegetables that taste bitter or unpleasant "raw" but
         | are very delicious with a bit of heat and time.
        
           | simojo wrote:
           | > Eat a [roasted] coffee bean by itself.
        
             | pton_xd wrote:
             | That was implied but it still doesn't make any sense.
             | Eating dry tea leaves tastes nothing like drinking a cup of
             | tea.
        
         | dgunay wrote:
         | That's pretty much how a french press works, if anyone wants to
         | try it. Loads of cheap french presses available everywhere.
         | It's very portable too if you need to make coffee and have
         | nothing but water, heat, and ground coffee.
        
       | dieselerator wrote:
       | > The idea that coffee can have any taste other burnt rubber was
       | interesting.
       | 
       | That summarizes the article.
       | 
       | This is not a recommendation, but you can buy caffeine pills.
        
         | dgunay wrote:
         | The worldwide obsession with dark roast coffee baffles me. I
         | guess if you're adding sugar then it doesn't matter that the
         | coffee is burnt to a crisp.
        
       | irrational wrote:
       | Why not use caffeine pills? You get the caffeine jolt without the
       | calories. Plus, they are far cheaper than buying drinks.
        
       | exiguus wrote:
       | Its ok to not like coffee. Tee or Mate is also fine.
        
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