[HN Gopher] Interagency Grizzly Bear Committee
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Interagency Grizzly Bear Committee
Author : mooreds
Score : 19 points
Date : 2025-05-10 13:40 UTC (2 days ago)
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| skeeter2020 wrote:
| it's convenient for us Canadians that US Grizzly Bears adhere to
| a geo-political, largely unpoliced, sparsely populated border.
| RandallBrown wrote:
| I wonder why only the Selkirk Recovery Zone crosses borders,
| especially when BC and Alberta are listed among the partner
| agencies.
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| I think all of the recent (last 15 or so years) grizzly
| sightings in the North Cascades are speculated to be visiting
| bears from Canada.
| codeduck wrote:
| I think one of those bears just dined on the parent poster.
| Rest in peace, RandallBrown
| jjulius wrote:
| This is why the whole discussion around reintroducing them
| into the North Cascades in Washington has fascinated me (I
| take no sides, though as a backpacker in that area, I'd kinda
| prefer not to have to deal with them - black bears trend
| afraid of us, I've never minded spotting them!). British
| Columbia has them, and the border doesn't prevent them from
| making their way down here. I've yet to understand why that
| is the case - what keeps them from actually coming into the
| Washington Cascades and making themselves at home?
| dogman144 wrote:
| Layman's understanding, but the only real prevention is
| time and if there's an existing grizzly pop down there.
| Reason grizzs are expanding is the males have very large
| roaming territory, and each new adolescent male needs to
| find its own or face conflict. If you're backpacking in an
| area with a pop, good odds there's 1x grizz per 6 square
| miles.
|
| Hunting and environmental damage could play a role, but I
| don't think modern hunting/F&G policies could do much. They
| are very adaptable creatures and eat a variety of stuff, so
| I speculate you'd have to have real ecosystem collapse to
| cause them to bow out of an area.
|
| End of the day for me - grizzlies ranged the entire country
| in 1776 times, and then by the 1970's got boxed into
| Alaska, Montana, and Wyoming basically. If that bear
| disappeared/disappears, it'd be a tragedy. Meet a bear or
| see one skinned and they're pretty darn close to human-
| looking. The Montana pop in glacier is about to join with
| the Wyoming pop in Yellowstone, they're now in the bighorns
| in WY, and get spotted in eastern plains Montana now.
|
| If you're not hunting and dressing game, as most hikers are
| not, the main danger comes from surprising them, so just
| keep head on a swivel and carry bear spray. Carry a 10mm or
| .44 and up for if you get stalked by one. NOLS Lander has a
| good YouTube video on grizzly safety. After long enough
| accounting for this, I realized I wasn't really "hiking" in
| non-bear areas much as marching around woods acting like I
| was, and I haven't looked at the non-bear areas the same.
| bee_rider wrote:
| It is inconvenient for us Grizzly Bears that all these stupid
| monkeys invented a line and started hassling everybody about
| it. Unfortunately, you never know which monkey knows the "pop!
| You die." trick.
| nick3443 wrote:
| We should be taking a measured approach to shooting them (by
| that I mean we should be shooting them). So that they know to
| leave people alone.
| pavel_lishin wrote:
| Sometimes I really regret whatever turns my life took, that
| resulted in me _not_ having a business card with "Interagency
| Grizzly Bear Committee" on it.
| aaronbaugher wrote:
| It's not too late. I had 100 business cards made that have
| (among other things) "Lumberjack" listed as one of my
| professions. I gave one to my girlfriend when we first met, and
| it got me the date.
| pavel_lishin wrote:
| Oh, sure, but I could not possibly dream of stealing this
| particular valor.
| smithkl42 wrote:
| Did you sleep all night, and work all day?
| rdtsc wrote:
| I recently rewatched https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grizzly_Man.
| It's a Werner Herzog film about Timothy Treadwell's story. It's a
| classic story of "well, his heart was definitely in the right
| place" kind of a situation.
|
| Charlie Russell, a Canadian naturalist who worked with Treadwell
| offered a different perspective on it
| http://cloudline.org/treadwell.html. He is a bit critical of how
| Herzog presented Treadwell and the bears in the documentary.
| MiguelVieira wrote:
| Related: Recovering Grizzly Bears in California
|
| https://docs.calgrizzly.org/docs/CGA-Feasibility-Study-2025....
| smithkl42 wrote:
| Heading out on Friday to do a black bear hunt in two of those
| Grizzly recovery zones...
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