[HN Gopher] Nothing Radicalizes You Against Dirty Diesels Like R...
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       Nothing Radicalizes You Against Dirty Diesels Like Riding a
       Motorcycle
        
       Author : rntn
       Score  : 17 points
       Date   : 2025-05-08 19:54 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | Neonlicht wrote:
       | As if motor cyclists are known for their decency.
       | 
       | As soon as the first nice weather comes on in spring they start
       | driving around in their loud death machines swerving through
       | traffic.
        
         | ultrarunner wrote:
         | > Loud
         | 
         | Those are Harley enthusiasts, not motorcyclists. (Or,
         | increasingly, just "work trucks")
         | 
         | Signed, someone who commutes on a rather quiet motorcycle.
        
           | cosmicgadget wrote:
           | Sportbikes can be pretty loud when the rider feels like it.
        
         | blacksmith_tb wrote:
         | Death machines, but generally fatal to their riders, rather
         | than others?
        
         | cosmicgadget wrote:
         | Are you just taking the opportunity to complain about
         | motorcycles or are you responding to the article by saying coal
         | rolling is okay because motorcyclists are also bad?
        
       | chasing0entropy wrote:
       | I cant imagine being so self entitled to complain globally about
       | "dirty diesel" and simultaneously humbugging the lack of right to
       | perform dangerous lane splitting maneuvers to zoom by the "dirty
       | diesel" driving workers delivering the food the pretentious
       | author eats, mowing the grass at his obviously perfect domicile,
       | and fixing/towing/moving the broken garbage motorcycles that are
       | left after like minded bikers are smeared on the ground as a
       | result of their death trap loving lifestyle.
        
         | onedognight wrote:
         | 40 years ago every car on the road was dirty and now, at least
         | in CA, they are _much much_ cleaner because people complained.
         | The fact that diesels trucks have been exempted from these same
         | regulations is an embarrassment akin to Lee Iacocca telling
         | Nixon that seat belt requirements would put Chrysler out of
         | business.
        
           | linksnapzz wrote:
           | Citation needed.
        
       | GuinansEyebrows wrote:
       | meta: i really did not expect there to be such a negative opinion
       | of people who ride motorcycles on hackernews but this is the
       | second post in a few days where people feel a need to (and are
       | for some reason, very comfortable) very intensely malign _all_
       | motorcyclists for the perceived slights of _some_ motorcyclists.
       | 
       | it's pretty gross behavior/rhetoric. i don't ride motorcycles but
       | i know enough not to apply the specific in regards to the
       | general.
        
         | ikesau wrote:
         | I have no strong feelings on motorbikes one way or the other,
         | but also try to avoid downvoting posts when I disagree with
         | them. It's a harder urge to suppress when I feel strongly about
         | the subject though, and so it's possible that this is just a
         | minority of people who are disproportionately represented
         | because the rest of us don't care enough to make generic pro-
         | motorbike posts in response.
        
       | ece wrote:
       | Neck gaiters can help, also move back to a motorcycle friendly
       | state. Ryvid Anthem rider.
        
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