[HN Gopher] Cursor hits $9B valuation
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Cursor hits $9B valuation
Author : bookofjoe
Score : 69 points
Date : 2025-05-05 14:26 UTC (8 hours ago)
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| bookofjoe wrote:
| https://archive.ph/yQlLu
| hhghkj wrote:
| Quite a valuation for a VSCode fork. They have no moat.
| raffraffraff wrote:
| It's a rented castle, too.
| enlightens wrote:
| Indeed.
|
| "DID YOU JUST BAN CURSOR?"
| https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-dotnettools/issues/1909
|
| > The error seems very clear to me. Dev Kit is licensed only
| for use with VS Code, Cursor is not VS Code, ergo it is not
| licensed to use it.
|
| >
|
| > Not to mention that only VS Code can use the official
| plugin registry in the first place. Everything working as
| intended.
| Keyframe wrote:
| Ah, good old Microsoft.
| rvz wrote:
| Exactly. From: [0]
|
| >> I know it works as intended. Just curios why Microsoft
| decided to enforce this all of a sudden.
|
| Because they can. Also...
|
| >> Did GitHub Copilot just give up on playing fair with
| Cursor, admitting it's winning?
|
| The game wasn't 'fair' to begin with and it was rigged for
| Microsoft to win anyway. (Cursor being based on VS Code).
|
| If you're competing against Microsoft, expect them to race
| you to zero for years (extinguish) at close to no cost for
| them.
|
| It is all for Cursor to lose if they continue as they are
| and competitors like Microsoft catch up (and they will do
| so very quickly whilst lowering prices).
|
| [0] https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-
| dotnettools/issues/1909#...
| UncleOxidant wrote:
| More like a squatted castle.
| wordpad wrote:
| Their user base is the moat. Same as any network effect
| business.
|
| If all your peers are using a thing, it's really hard to
| convince entire industry to switch even if something better is
| available.
| PUSH_AX wrote:
| That's not a moat when it comes to tooling like this, I can
| and will cancel my sub when I try something objectively
| better, there is zero lock in, even if I make a poor choice I
| can come back.
|
| This is not a moat, the fact there are a bunch of companies
| hot on their heels proves this too.
| madeofpalk wrote:
| I don't think user base is a moat, at least not for tooling
| like this. Switching costs is practically zero, as evidence
| by how quickly Cursor came up and ate Copilot's lunch.
| Presumably all of Cursor's users switched away from VS Code
| or another editor. How did that moat go for them?
| Lalabadie wrote:
| Early adopters are the most fickle version of a user moat I
| can imagine.
| notfromhere wrote:
| We're talking about an IDE, switching is pretty frictionless.
| solarkraft wrote:
| Well, switching IDEs can actually be hard due to all the
| integrations. But this is VScode to VSCode ...
| wrs wrote:
| Network effect? What network?
| kcatskcolbdi wrote:
| I want to agree, but whatever they are doing is working
| incredibly well so far. The results I get from cursor outweigh
| what I can get from Copilot by orders of magnitude. Maybe long
| term there's no moat, but you'd think if there were no moat now
| the folks at Microsoft would be able to compete.
| 0x500x79 wrote:
| This is something that I think Copilot is working on fixing
| actively. I think that they were focused on Agent mode
| previously, so put less effort into the autocomplete
| functionality but they are hearing more and more that this is
| somewhere they need to focus.
| owendarko wrote:
| There are already VS Code extensions (Cline, Roo Code and Kilo
| Code) that do the same + are much better IMO.
|
| Disclaimer: I'm one of the maintainers of Kilo.
| CyberMacGyver wrote:
| Didn't they reject $20B from OpenAI? This seems like a 50%
| haircut.
| moduspol wrote:
| I mean... it's a little disingenuous to call it a "vibe coding"
| app.
| be_erik wrote:
| It's how a lot of code is being generated by owners of small
| startups with minimal engineering engagement. PMs are producing
| full walking skeletons of designs that used to take a week to
| polish to that fidelity.
| moduspol wrote:
| Sure--but it's also the most widely used IDE for integrated
| AI assistance to normal software engineers. It's a "vibe
| coding" app in the same way that a washing machine is a "sock
| cleaning machine." I mean, yes, it does that, but that's a
| small part of its designed and in-practice usage.
| fkyoureadthedoc wrote:
| > but it's also the most widely used IDE for integrated AI
| assistance to normal software engineers.
|
| Is it? I'd be surprised if GitHub Copilot didn't have more
| paid users.
| zknowledge wrote:
| Wow, AI 'vibe coding' app? What a reductive statement on what
| Cursor is.
| bluefirebrand wrote:
| Seems about right to me
|
| Are you sure you don't have a very inflated idea about what
| Cursor is?
| PUSH_AX wrote:
| This is like saying cars are for doing skids and speeding
| illegally, then telling the person who drives for a living if
| they "don't have a very inflated idea about what a car is".
|
| Vibe coding is letting the AI take the wheel for every
| decision, not verifying output, progress above all. Of course
| it's possible to use it in a more subtle collaborative
| capacity with heavy oversight.
| zknowledge wrote:
| I doubt it. Cursor is an IDE with an ai co-pilot deeply
| integrated into it. They've literally changed the paradigm of
| software development by making ai-assisted coding feasible.
| The vibe-coding mention is reductive imo.
|
| Another way of looking at it: Maker of "pricey electronic
| typewriter", Apple hits $9B valuation (FT 1984)
|
| pretty reductive
| lostmsu wrote:
| Are they different from Copilot though?
|
| I mean I tried C# integration and Cursor does not even fix
| all compilation errors before reporting it has "completed
| the task". Feels like that's the most basic integration you
| can have beyond reviewing diffs.
| zknowledge wrote:
| That's a fair question and point. I'm not die-hard Cursor
| fan. Use what works best for you, but I'm just more so
| commenting that the vibe-coding part totally minimizes
| what the offering is.
| Zealotux wrote:
| I use both and I'm amazed at how poor the VSCode proposal is
| compared to Cursor.
| bethekidyouwant wrote:
| 9B, no moat, it's bubble time!
| url00 wrote:
| On the off chance there was any doubt still... Alas, seeing a
| bubble provides almost no good information except that you know
| something bad will happen sometime.
| spacemadness wrote:
| That sometime will be when reality sinks in regarding
| revenue, but by then some of the original investors have made
| their money and split.
| riku_iki wrote:
| they have userbase, revenue, super-fast growth, leading market
| position and capable team.
| disgruntledphd2 wrote:
| Yup, but good unit economics are what matters in the long
| run.
| rvz wrote:
| Except that there is one problem and that is Microsoft GitHub
| who has a much more massive platform (220m+ users),
| distribution and ecosystem lock-in which Cursor does not
| have.
|
| Things can change _very quickly_ in 6 - 12 months.
| riku_iki wrote:
| there is no lock in on github, since communication happens
| through git protocol, so no external tool/client can be
| locked out.
| hn_throwaway_99 wrote:
| Yeah, good things companies only use the bare-bones git
| functionality of GitHub /s. Forget things like GitHub
| Actions, Issues, Projects, complicated security settings,
| etc. etc.
|
| I've been at a company that migrated from GitHub to
| GitLab and it was a substantial undertaking, and the
| company was a very small new startup - it would have been
| many orders of magnitude more difficult for a larger
| company with multiple dev teams to move.
| riku_iki wrote:
| I am looking from perspective of vibe coding task for
| some regular dev. If he has access to github from his
| current IDE, nothing prevents Cursor from having the same
| level of access.
| karel-3d wrote:
| it's vscode with chatgpt
| danenania wrote:
| If you're using Cursor (as I do), but find it tends to struggle
| once your project reaches a certain size, and you're ok with
| something CLI-based, you might find the open source CLI coding
| agent I've built interesting: https://github.com/plandex-
| ai/plandex
|
| - It can handle up to 2M tokens of context directly, and can
| index/work with/chat with projects up to 20M tokens (1M+ lines).
| Here's an example of chatting with with SQLite codebase to learn
| about how transactions are implemented:
| https://plandex.ai/_next/static/media/plandex-sqlite.0ee6cb2...
|
| - All changes are committed to a version-controlled sandbox by
| default, preventing the problem of stray changes that you don't
| notice being left behind in the project.
|
| - Being terminal-based allows for more seamless and powerful
| execution control and automated debugging. Here's an example of
| automatically debugging a browser app (via redirection of console
| logs/errors to the terminal):
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-_76U_nK0Y&embeds_referring...
| colesantiago wrote:
| I see too much self promotion over this tool all over HN and it
| is not anywhere near the same as Cursor?
|
| I don't see any similarities other than it uses AI and that is
| about it.
| danenania wrote:
| If you don't see any similarities, I'm not really sure what
| to say. I built it specifically to improve the workflow of
| what has come to be labelled 'vibe coding', and I believe
| it's more effective for this purpose than Cursor... though I
| find that Cursor is excellent for IDE auto-completion.
|
| It's MIT-licensed and can be used for free, so yes I do
| mention it when relevant conversations come up, because I
| think can be useful to people, and I think that is well
| within the spirit of HN, which is supposed to be a maker
| community. Since I'm an HN addict, I read/post a lot, and so
| I notice when these topics come up.
| kristopolous wrote:
| I've used it. Honestly it's the same place as goose and aider
| ... it tries to DIY its own solutions too often as opposed to
| using existing robust libraries, writes inflexible code where
| simple piped commands would do, and basically Katamari Damacies
| the problem into a complicated sprawl that doesn't work.
| danenania wrote:
| Thanks, I appreciate the feedback.
|
| I think the reason you tend to see these same kinds of
| problems across tools is that you are running up against the
| reasoning limitations of the underlying models. I see my goal
| as trying to push that horizon out as far possible, and I
| think Plandex pushes it significantly farther than most other
| tools, but you do of course still run into those limitations.
|
| That said, I think even setting aside improvements to the
| underlying models, there's a lot of potential to improve on
| these issues. I think they're all basically addressable at
| current capability levels, though they are difficult
| problems. It's what I'm personally most excited to work on.
| kristopolous wrote:
| Honestly, I think it simply becomes the wrong modality at a
| certain level of engagement with any problem.
|
| When human developing a project successfully you engage in
| different collective behaviors throughout the process.
| That's why the scrum/agile stuff that tries to normalize it
| doesn't actually work very well.
|
| On computers, relationships _are_ workflows and you need to
| do a dance of fluid relationships to use AI effectively
| throughout the execution process - otherwise that 's why
| you either abandon it after you get to some point or you
| feel like you're just wasting time.
| danenania wrote:
| You're right. I think the solution essentially boils down
| to modeling those other modalities and incorporating them
| into the agent.
| tomjuggler wrote:
| Cursor may be $9B but Aider is priceless
| BeetleB wrote:
| Yeah, this is what I don't get. How is Cursor that much better
| than Aider? When you have a great, free, open source tool, why
| would an investor pump money into Cursor?
| moltar wrote:
| EE monies?
| Frieren wrote:
| It may come back to be relevant "Here Comes Another Bubble v1.1 -
| The Richter Scales" but some lingo needs update (but other parts
| are still spot on).
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6IQ_FOCE6I
| golergka wrote:
| I've been on HN since around 2010 (I think) and I have heard
| "we're in a bubble and it's going to pop" this whole time.
| tmpz22 wrote:
| California just became the 4th largest economy largely due to
| tech, and currently ranks 42nd among states in terms of job
| growth in Q1 2025. The Pop won't be a collapse of capital
| it'll be in continued decline for the 95% as tech oligarchs
| continue to facilitate the transfer of wealth to the very
| top.
|
| [1]: https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/05/03/economy-jobs-
| layoff-w...
| hn_throwaway_99 wrote:
| But it (at least one of the bubbles) did pop. Tons of
| companies who got gargantuan raises and valuations in
| 2020/2021 are essentially in the position where they won't
| hit those valuations again for years, if ever.
| golergka wrote:
| That must be tough for them. But everybody talking about it
| was referring to "pop" of 2001, when most of the companies
| didn't just hit lower valuations, they went out of
| business.
| rchaud wrote:
| Zero-interest rate policy began in 2008 and ended in 2022.
| Bubbles can last a long time when borrowing money has been
| free for the VC class to throw into AI, alongside food
| delivery, crypto, office rentals and taxicabs under the guise
| of 'technology'.
| owendarko wrote:
| Why do we need a new IDE for "AI/vibe coding"?
|
| The entire workflow for "AI coding agents" boils down to:
|
| 1. You write a prompt
|
| 2. The agent wraps it in a system prompt and sends it to the LLM
|
| 3. The LLM sends back a response
|
| 4. The agent performs specific actions based on that response
| (editing files, creating new ones, etc.)
|
| I don't see why anyone would ditch their current (non-AI) IDE for
| Cursor just to get this functionality (especially if you're
| getting hit with a monthly subscription fee on top of it.)
|
| P.S. I maintain a VS Code extension that does the 4 steps above
| as a baseline[1]
|
| [1] https://github.com/Kilo-Org/kilocode
| Maxamillion96 wrote:
| It's vibes investing to match the vibes coding
| sircastor wrote:
| I think there are 2 or 3 reasons:
|
| 1) Popularity. While there are plenty of die-on-a-hill users
| for ____ app, there are just as many people who will step away
| to try something and find they like it. Lots of devs use
| VScode, but its only been around for 10 years. Some people
| still swear by Notepad++
|
| 2) Demand from on-high: When the non-tech boss shows up and
| says "Everyone use this now". I don't know how much this
| happens, but it _does_ happen. Technical dictates from someone
| who shouldn 't be making the decision, probably for a non-
| technical reason.
|
| 3) I hesitate to bring this one up, but here we go: People
| don't know any better. There is a new generation of developers
| coming up who are leaning hard into vibe coding. And just when
| I was young, there are plenty of seasoned developers crying out
| about it's validity. The new generation will pick their own
| tools - in part to distance themselves from the current
| generation.
| Invictus0 wrote:
| Why do people pay for water bottles when it comes out of the
| sink for free? Why do people use Dropbox when you could just
| mount a filesystem with curlftpfs? Why do people pay for
| Docusign or Postman or Duolingo?
| johnisgood wrote:
| I'm "old school", I do these steps manually.
|
| (It actually helps more, IMO).
| tmpz22 wrote:
| I've been very happy with VSCode + Gemini 2.5 (a recentish
| integration). I will re-evaluate Cursor again but I can't
| imagine they're going to be able to beat Microsoft to the
| punch.
| hadesarchitect wrote:
| There is literally no need for that. Roo or Kilo (extensions
| for VSCode) are open-source multi-agent plugins that don't
| require a whole new IDE.
| seunosewa wrote:
| The flat monthly fee charged by Cursor is attractive to
| many businesses and individuals.
| The5thElephant wrote:
| Honestly main reason is the UI and speed.
|
| Cursor has consistently felt faster and easier to use with
| better inline auto-complete and faster large edits in chat than
| VSCode ever did. The way suggestions and chat is shown is just
| a bit easier to read and more elegantly presented.
|
| These things make a big difference.
| smrtinsert wrote:
| After trying a lot of them, the need for a real ide is even
| stronger. Every single tool I've tried creates bugs, unrequired
| code, mistakes, hallucinations. Currently playing with Junie
| and Augment, and CoPilot holds up surprisingly well, not sure
| why people are so eager to ditch it.
| BeetleB wrote:
| > P.S. I maintain a VS Code extension that does the 4 steps
| above as a baseline[1]
|
| Still needs an IDE!
|
| Why should I use kilo instead of aider?
|
| https://aider.chat/
| rvz wrote:
| This is similar to the sort of hype which happened with Clubhouse
| app ($4B valuation, then the users stopped signing up.), Hopin
| ($9BN until the pandemic ended) and finally Inflection AI ($4B
| and almost no-one uses it after the initial AI hype).
|
| One of biggest risks is Microsoft who can further lower prices
| with Copilot (and they can afford to do that for years) for
| longer and rapidly copy Cursor just like they destroyed Slack
| with Teams.
|
| There really is no lock-in case for Cursor (unless they acquire
| something else) as users can easily cancel and switch back to VS
| Code and Cursor can lose that ARR very quickly and the cost is
| the entire company.
|
| For Microsoft? Costs them nothing.
|
| This $9B valuation is peak euphoria and this is the best time for
| Cursor to sell as they are getting very greedy after rejecting a
| buyout from OpenAI (twice).
| johanyc wrote:
| Well said. There are so many AI assist tools (windsurf,
| cline/roocode, trae, etc) and it's so easy to switch between
| them.
| Jubijub wrote:
| +1, they have no most, and we clearly see that big actors are
| willing to run at loss to get market shares. At this point I
| guess people are looking for an exit, and the last investors
| will own an empty shell
| akmarinov wrote:
| Better sell fast, then enjoy life.
| heymax054 wrote:
| No need to change your IDE to AI/vibe code.
|
| There are already a few good VS Code extensions like Cline and
| Kilo Code which do 80/20 of the job.
| addandsubtract wrote:
| Even Copilot has caught up with its chat and agent editing
| features.
| ForOldHack wrote:
| I have a paint-rapido pointed at a keywords list with JDVance
| in a dumpster at the center.
|
| Kilo is not "Vibe" coding, nor does it need to steal
| "Intellectual" "property" at the end of it's 5 hours shift.
|
| I am about done with VSCode and it's claims of usefulness. I
| started long before the internet and PCs.
| kristopolous wrote:
| the proper timeline is
|
| cline -> roo -> kilo
|
| There's also things like goose, plandex, and aider.
|
| The real problem is what to with all those bugs written by the
| AI, however you choose to vibe them.
|
| That's what my latest effort,
| https://github.com/kristopolous/llmehelp is trying to address.
| seattle_spring wrote:
| Why are so many people conflating Cursor's main value
| proposition with "vibe coding"? AI assisted development is not
| "vibe coding", which is just a silly gimmick to churn out half-
| assed insecure garbage quickly.
|
| Edit: oh, it's because the article erroneously claims it's a
| "vibe coding app." Yikes.
| crote wrote:
| Considering how hostile Microsoft is being to forks - even
| benign ones like VS Codium - it's probably worth it to explore
| switching to another IDE anyways.
| odie5533 wrote:
| Using Cursor is a lot easier than Roo Code or Cline. It has a
| much better UI and it's faster for streaming tool uses, and I
| believe it's cheaper.
| evelant wrote:
| Cursor isn't very good. It aggressively limits context I assume
| to save money. Augment runs circles around it.
| seunosewa wrote:
| Which models are available on Augment right now? Which do you
| use?
| evelant wrote:
| https://www.augmentcode.com/blog/ai-model-pickers-are-a-
| desi...
|
| Augment does not have a model picker. It uses Claude 3.7
| right now. The context engine is the magic sauce. It's miles
| ahead of all the other tools, almost always gets it right
| where others fail.
| eddyg wrote:
| Do you have any relationship to/with Augment?
| Larrikin wrote:
| His only posts are promoting it
| evelant wrote:
| No I don't. I just created an account for the first time. I
| just wanted to point out augment since nobody had mentioned
| it and it seemed relevant. Roo code is another very good
| alternative that's better than cursor but it requires a bit
| more manual work to get good results. I've spent a lot of
| time trying out all of these tools, augment is the best one
| IMO but was also the last one I discovered. I figured sharing
| it here might spare others the searching and frustration I
| went through with cursor/windsurf/roo/pear/trae and so on.
| lostmsu wrote:
| Also noticed it. It often forgets recent changes then proceeds
| to revert them without being asked to touch that part of code.
| Syzygies wrote:
| I just ended my Cursor subscription today, and upgraded from
| Claude's Pro to Max plan to reduce my Claude Code costs. They now
| include a healthy Claude Code allowance in the Max plans.
|
| If one has already set up Claude Code with metered API use, one
| toggles between plans using the /login command. Once to start
| using Max, then whenever one hits a five hour rate limit and
| wants to keep working.
|
| I've tried many platforms. I kept Cursor long after Windsurf, but
| Claude Code is a clear winner, as most people report who don't
| bristle at the cost.
|
| When Cursor or Windsurf forks VS Code, they have a reason. Their
| chat panes always felt like periscopes; one has better control
| over Claude Code in a terminal, and this frees up one's choice of
| editor. I now use Sublime Text, fast and lean.
| disqard wrote:
| Signal-boosting this -- I use Claude Code too, and it's
| beautiful: all the benefits of typing long-form thoughts,
| ideas, strategy, combined with direct access (for the llm api)
| to the codebase (no uploading/downloading), and Anthropic's
| promise of not training on your inputs or outputs.
| yoyohello13 wrote:
| Claude code is actually great. I get to use any tools/editor I
| want, and get the AI agent workflow.
| disqard wrote:
| Right, it decouples your IDE choice from the "Code Assistant"
| choice, giving you massive flexibility.
| Scene_Cast2 wrote:
| How does this compare with using openrouter + OSS? I'm
| currently averaging $20/month with copious usage (and no
| limits, obviously).
| andix wrote:
| Do you also use aider? How does it compare to Claude code? The
| concept seems to be similar, a stand-alone cli agent.
| gizmodo59 wrote:
| Codex with o3 worked much better for my projects than Claude
| code. Plus it's open source so I can switch models easily.
| 0x500x79 wrote:
| I'm not sure that Andrej envisioned this when he tweeted out his
| Vibe Coding take what seems like forever ago now.
|
| I applaud anybody who jumps into Cursor (or other AI Assisted
| Coding Tools) to build a new product. I think that a way to
| express ideas is awesome, and allowing for these ideas to
| materialize is valuable for society and users will determine what
| is valuable/usable.
|
| However, it's well documented that the expression of these tools
| is limited. I think that the bet here is that LLMs will continue
| to get better and better, paving the way for these tools to
| become more valuable: which I haven't been convinced with yet.
|
| At it's core you can list out the primary functionality of an AI
| Assisted Coding platform and how these components interact. Their
| prompts have been dumped, and the tools have been replicated,
| plus the big LLM providers are in this space as well and
| understand more nuances around the models and how they interact
| with the different components.
|
| $9B seems bonkers, but time will tell. There are a few outcomes
| here: pop, life changes incredibly, or this is the stagnation
| period that seems to happen with AI/ML. LLMs have changed the way
| I work already, the question is "what is next". I am hoping that
| I am ahead of others on the Hype cycle, but only time will tell
| (from heavy use of AI tools).
| madeofpalk wrote:
| > _I think that the bet here is that LLMs will continue to get
| better and better_
|
| I don't think so. I think the way we use the same LLMs will
| continue to get better. Cursor is built on essentially the
| exact same LLM models as VSCode/Github Copilot, yet Cursor
| managed to wring a lot more usefulness out of them.
|
| I think it's still early days in understanding how to use LLMs
| as a foundational technology to build out other products, and
| improving the models isn't all that necessary. In my view.
| sumoboy wrote:
| I think it's a combination of both, the LLM's today for
| coding are just average containing a lot of pre-2024
| knowledge. The vibe tools are getting around some of the
| shortcomings and increased token limits which is great, but
| up to date current knowledge can't rely on llm.txt doc
| updates as context and expect reasonable code generation.
| Give me some monthly updated topic related LLM's to use
| (coding, content writing, history), I don't need the entire
| world all the time.
| outside1234 wrote:
| This is crack smoking. This company is going to get wiped out by
| GitHub Copilot in short order.
| jryan49 wrote:
| Currently, GH co-pilot sucks. At least the plan we have at
| work...
| UncleOxidant wrote:
| And/or wiped out by VS Code plugins like Cline and Kilo which
| are free.
| anon7000 wrote:
| Probably not -- I know of companies dropping GH Copilot because
| of low internal usage compared to cursor.
| twodave wrote:
| Are different coding agents better at different languages? Like
| if I'm trying to write in python vs Golang vs PHP vs C#, am I
| going to want a different agent for each? Or is one agent going
| to be more or less consistent among all languages?
| kristopolous wrote:
| really, prompting and workflow style is 80%.
|
| AI is like any other program, good output can't come from bad
| input.
| jmacd wrote:
| Any IDE based editor feels like a stopgap to me. We may not be
| there yet, but I feel that in the future a "vibe coder" isn't
| even going to look at much code at all. Much of what developers
| who are relying on Cursor, Windmill, Replit, etc etc are doing is
| performative as it relates to code. There is just a lot of
| copy/pasting of console errors and asking for things one way or
| another.
|
| Casual or "vibe" coding is all about the output. Doesn't work?
| Roll back. Works well? Keep going. Feeling gutsy? Single shot.
| seattle_spring wrote:
| Vibe coding is just a prototyping tool / "dev influencer"
| gimmick. No one serious is using Cursor for vibe coding, nor
| will anyone serious ever vibe code. It's for AI assisted
| development-- in other words, a more powerful intellisense.
| kevin_thibedeau wrote:
| The people who outsource their jobs to mechanical Turks will
| be using it until their employer(s) find out.
| odie5533 wrote:
| Have you tried Bolt.new? You can vibe code with it.
| jmacd wrote:
| I felt the same way for a while, but I am really not so sure
| now. Cursor is definitely drawing on the influencer/growth
| well to drive some portion of these #s.
|
| It's a lot easier and more scaleable to get 1000 people "vibe
| coding" than it is to get 10 experienced engineers using you
| for autocomplete.
| victorbjorklund wrote:
| Cursor isnt for vibe coding. I use it. I ask the AI to do
| something I know how to do but it can do it faster. I check the
| changes to make sure everything looks good.
| ndr wrote:
| WARNING for Cursor users: Cursor is currently stuck using an
| outdated snapshot of the VSCode Marketplace, meaning several
| extensions within Cursor remain affected by high-severity CVEs
| that have already been patched upstream in VSCode. As a result,
| Cursor users unknowingly remain vulnerable to known security
| issues. This issue has been acknowledged but remains unresolved:
| https://github.com/getcursor/cursor/issues/1602#issuecomment...
|
| Given Cursor's rising popularity, users should be aware of this
| gap in security updates. Until the Cursor team resolves the
| marketplace sync issue, caution is advised when using certain
| extensions.
|
| I've flagged it here, apologies for the repost:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43609572
| bix6 wrote:
| Is there a list of extensions to avoid?
| drbojingle wrote:
| Good for them. IMO they should ditch the editor though. I see no
| reason that they should tie themselves to one editor. It seems
| like a waste of time. If Claude code let me use me subscription
| I'd be off cursor pretty quick.
| cantSpellSober wrote:
| easier sell/setup
| BeetleB wrote:
| > Makes it an easier sell to devs, "you don't have to
| 'change' editors" and it makes setup easier if you happen to
| be using VSC
|
| But tying it to an editor (including VSCode) means "you have
| to change editors".
|
| I don't use VSCode, so any solution requiring it is a no-go.
|
| When we have aider[1], which works with _any_ editor /IDE, I
| just don't see the value in trying Cursor, et al.
|
| [1] https://aider.chat/
| sanswork wrote:
| The value for me in cursor is the tab feature not the chat.
| I use the chat to generate code maybe once per week but the
| tab autocompleting saves me probably 30 minutes per day.
| odie5533 wrote:
| Please do not ditch the editor! Cursor's integrated IDE with
| easy changes I can read is the whole reason I like it the best!
| anon7000 wrote:
| Cursor editor autocomplete (cursor tab) is the one feature I
| use constantly. Everything else is more selective for my type
| of work.
| nyrulez wrote:
| Asking a programmer to ditch their editor is just wild. A lot
| of this thread seems to be full of non-programmers trying to
| figure out why Cursor exists lmao
| victorbjorklund wrote:
| Claude Max can be used with Claude Code
| drbojingle wrote:
| Yea just learned that today but it's quite expensive imo.
| bix6 wrote:
| $200M ARR so that's a 45x multiple. Wow.
|
| Why not go public?
| givemeethekeys wrote:
| Because there's plenty of private equity lined up and dumb
| enough to buy at a 45x multiple.
| brianbreslin wrote:
| Does this fundraising only make sense if cursor is planning to
| jump into the infrastructure side too? To do application hosting
| layer like Replit.
| nyrulez wrote:
| Calling Cursor a vibe coding app is just wild. The journalists
| and influencers are so out of touch with the software engineering
| world.
| indigodaddy wrote:
| There's plenty of people using Cursor this way though:
|
| https://youtu.be/opB25teOxYQ
|
| Just because (perhaps) a majority of SWEs are using it
| responsibly as a tool, doesn't mean that a likely fairly wide
| swath of newcomers aren't jumping on the vibe coding wave.
| kennu wrote:
| Cursor is not about vibe coding. Vibe coding means you don't care
| about the AI's code output as long as it works. Cursor is all
| about efficiently reviewing the AI-proposed changes and hitting
| Tab only when you approve them. Much of the editing process is
| hitting Esc because the proposed change is not good.
| guywithahat wrote:
| I know this is a meta point but I'm pretty sure vibe coding is
| just an X meme that means whatever the poster intends. I'm not
| sure you can say vibe coding does or doesn't care about
| relative quality
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