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Gorgeous-GRUB: collection of decent community-made GRUB themes
Author : todsacerdoti
Score : 406 points
Date : 2025-05-03 22:57 UTC (1 days ago)
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| marcodiego wrote:
| What I really would like: something that mimicked the old SGI
| start up, complete with boot audio and a micro distro for OS
| setup. These days, with snapshot filesystems, that shouldn't be
| too hard. Also, I've had to chroot to fix my system in my life a
| few times; I can't believe that's hard to automate.
| dharmab wrote:
| On Arch, I think you could install a second "backup" copy of
| Arch Linux on a recovery partition that your motherboard
| firmware can boot into directly, and then use the `arch-chroot`
| program to recover your main OS. I'm sure something similar
| exists for other distros?
| immibis wrote:
| You can always do this on any distro, but not necessarily
| with the install wizard.
| Fnoord wrote:
| macOS has both these features, sort of.
|
| Startup chime in SGI machines depended on model. So an Indy had
| a different one than an Onyx. My first PC (80286) also had
| iconic sounds when it started up. Never forget.
|
| Micro distro, is recovery OS. All three major desktop OSes have
| such, or a key combination to activate such. Android has two
| recovery partitions I believe, redundancy is key.
|
| If you like the power of snapshots, yep filesystems with CoW
| like ZFS can show a list during boot. An OS like NixOS wouldn't
| even need such. Works perfectly fine with Ext4FS, including
| boot menu with snapshots, rollback feature, etc.
| mzi wrote:
| > My first PC (80286) also had iconic sounds when it started
| up. BEEP BOP. bidiedi-bop. bip.
| mikepurvis wrote:
| I feel like your best bet with this would be one of the kexec-
| based bootloaders, because then it's a "real" Linux environment
| there, with whatever tools you want in it, instead of something
| special.
|
| Eg: https://github.com/kexecboot/kexecboot
| yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
| I do wish more effort was made to polish all the bits and
| pieces because all of this exists in _some_ form. I suppose
| some of it is that everyone is doing their own slightly
| different thing; NixOS lets you boot to earlier generations,
| but only by completely turning the filesystem inside out,
| OpenSUSE can do snapshots, but using BTRFS which means that not
| many other distros even _can_ use the same implementation, ZFS
| is the bee 's knees but on Linux licensing always adds
| friction, Ubuntu made boot super smooth via Plymouth but it's
| very... Ubuntu.
|
| Anyways. If you're in a position to run Linux on ZFS, may I
| suggest zfsbootmenu?
|
| > ZFSBootMenu leverages the features of modern OpenZFS to allow
| users to choose among multiple "boot environments" (which may
| represent different versions of a Linux distribution, earlier
| snapshots of a common root, or entirely different
| distributions), manipulate snapshots in a pre-boot environment
| and, for the adventurous user, even bootstrap a system
| installation via zfs recv.
|
| - https://docs.zfsbootmenu.org/en/v3.0.x/index.html
| Hasnep wrote:
| What's wrong with Plymouth? I use it on NixOS and it seems to
| just work and show a Nix logo on boot
| yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
| Interesting, either it got a lot better or I misremembered.
| Last time I looked, using Plymouth on anything but Ubuntu
| was a lot of rough edges and manual setup. By skimming wiki
| pages it does indeed look like that's not true anymore (if
| indeed it ever was; I _could_ have been wrong before).
| mrbluecoat wrote:
| I just found ZFSBootMenu and am really enjoying it so far.
| Cracks me up that all the zfs tutorials online are from circa
| 2010. I guess I missed the memo back then. For those wanting
| to try it, it took me a while to find the actual installation
| instructions:
| https://docs.zfsbootmenu.org/en/latest/guides/void-
| linux/uef...
| ibizaman wrote:
| On NixOS we get one new grub menu entry per "deployment", be it
| when you deploy to another host or the local one. They both
| then get a new grub entry. Of course you can still shoot
| yourself in the foot by making your system inaccessible
| remotely, by screwing up ssh config for example. There's also a
| solution for that called deploy-rs which has a magic rollback
| feature which rolls back the system if it can't connect back to
| the computer initiating the deployment
| https://github.com/serokell/deploy-rs?tab=readme-ov-file#mag...
|
| I'm using these features since multiple years now and can vouch
| for them.
|
| Not exactly related to your initial question but I also have my
| system build in CI and do some playwright tests which become
| more and more comprehensive as time passes. This all gives me
| quite a lot of confidence I'll find an issue early or be able
| to revert back.
| oarmstrong wrote:
| Could you tell me more about the playwright tests? From what
| I can see it's a web testing framework, I don't see how that
| fits in here.
| ibizaman wrote:
| Ah you're right. I should've been more clear.
|
| I'm deploying on my server and it self hosts 10 or so
| services. Like Nextcloud and Vaultwarden. The playwright
| tests are to test those. It's pretty basic like just
| checking I can create a user and still login. But it still
| caught a few regressions. And they're still WIP. I'm
| getting close to being able to validate the LLDAP +
| Authelia config works too. It's particularly useful in
| conjunction with automatically running flake update in CI.
| So all inputs get updated on a schedule and the tests give
| some level of guarantee that my server won't break. It's
| essentially QA tests automated.
|
| This link shows what the playwright tests look like. They
| are parametrized on the service to test so I'm sure I'm
| testing the same functionality every time. https://github.c
| om/ibizaman/selfhostblocks/blob/c2148eda7704...
| oarmstrong wrote:
| Ah got it, thanks. I thought you were testing the image
| somehow, a bit like inspec.
|
| Still cool though, nice.
| userbinator wrote:
| I'm a huge proponent of customisation, but for me, the less I
| have to see or even think about GRUB, the better.
| vidarh wrote:
| Yeah, I usually see it for seconds a _year_. If I saw it often
| enough to worry about theming it, I 'd rather spend my time on
| fixing whatever caused me to have to see it so ofen.
| vasco wrote:
| You'd spend more quality time with it if it looked beautiful.
| Think about it going up and down those menus for hours on
| end. Quality grub.
| yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
| Meanwhile, with kexec on a good day you can spend _zero_
| time in the bootloader for as long as the system doesn 't
| need a full hard-off power down:)
| esseph wrote:
| Ah. You don't ever patch, I guess.
| bigstrat2003 wrote:
| Or he is managing headless systems where you don't see the
| boot process unless something has gone wrong.
| exe34 wrote:
| I never wait for a computer to boot by staring at it unless
| I'm fixing a problem with the boot process. I wander off
| and come back later.
| fuzzfactor wrote:
| When I'm on the move I'll power up a PC without sitting
| down and come back to it later, but never "wander off" if
| I'm already sitting there since it only takes about 20
| seconds to cold boot, 5 seconds of which is intentional
| delay in case I want to choose something other than my
| default OS from the bootmenu.
|
| I say it is really nice not to have any problems with the
| boot process myself.
| vidarh wrote:
| That's where those few seconds a year comes from. My boot
| screen is visible for a second or two when I reboot - this
| isn't the 90s.
| guax wrote:
| I think this is the kind of thing I would do If I had to
| choose between OSs with frequency, either home
| lab/experimentation or linux for stuffs and windows for games
| kind of scenario.
|
| So there is nothing to fix, the nice choice screen is a
| feature.
| nine_k wrote:
| Look at the screenshots. They are all about booting multiple
| OSes or distros, and should make sense for those who switch
| between them often. ("Why" is another question.)
| hnbad wrote:
| I used to dual boot with Windows before WSL was a thing and
| I agree that back then I'd see GRUB on a daily basis.
| nine_k wrote:
| BTW, before that, coLinux existed!
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_Linux
| PebblesHD wrote:
| While these are cool, I honestly wish GRUB was silent unless
| you're holding a key during boot. The 5 seconds it takes to go
| away and just boot the OS by default is really unnecessary.
| treyd wrote:
| I'm pretty sure there is an option for this, holding shift
| makes it show the menu.
| arp242 wrote:
| What if you don't remember the key you need to press?
| necovek wrote:
| You RTFM (which can be a quick search or LLM chat away on
| another device like your phone).
| kej wrote:
| I think you can get that by setting `GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden`
| and `GRUB_TIMEOUT=0`. Then you can hold `Shift` to see the GRUB
| menu, otherwise it will boot the default option immediately.
| dustbunny wrote:
| Good tip. I've always felt like I'd like to be able to boot
| directly into the Second Option via a key, etc. like Shift +
| 2 etc
| homebrewer wrote:
| Make sure this works on your system _before_ you really need
| it, as some keyboard /USB-controller combinations take a few
| seconds to wake up from whatever slumber they're in and start
| working. I ran into this several times.
| NikkiA wrote:
| That's likely something related to USB legacy support being
| on or off.
|
| A lot of modern BIOS/EFI also allow a hybrid setting that
| enables legacy support until the OS takes over, which can
| sometimes be better too.
| voidfunc wrote:
| Why would you actually want this? Such a weird desire to hide
| this kind of stuff because it's so inconsequential in my mind.
| Fnoord wrote:
| Because sane OSes have sane defaults, and this is one of
| them. Hide information by default, unless called for. Want
| verbose boot log? Ask for it. Want boot menu? Ask for it.
| Need Bluetooth enabled at boot? Aak for it. Don't overburden
| the user with irrelevant info. When my 7 y.o. daughter fires
| up the Steam Decj, she doesn't need to see the boot menu.
| panny wrote:
| >she doesn't need to see
|
| My parents let me decide what I needed to see and learn how
| to customize things for myself. That seems like a sane
| default to me.
| Fnoord wrote:
| No, they don't; they let you decide _some_ things which
| are relevant. People in the know decide defaults. This is
| how it works everywhere. Else you 'd learn to bicycle
| with your own traffic rules. You'd end under a bus.
|
| Addendum: You could say you want a sandbox, and that such
| is part of the sandbox to play with. Then you need some
| kind of way to clean up, like you can clean up the toys
| your kids play with (or ensure _they_ clean up their own
| mess), or ensure their sandbox environment is safe (such
| as no fire hazards in your house). Then I would argue a
| VM is such. OS with rollbacks or a user account on an OS
| or locked down iOS /Android could suffice, too.
| panny wrote:
| >you'd learn to bicycle
|
| My parents gave me the bicycle in a box. I had to put it
| together if I wanted to ride it. They owned the bicycle
| shop too. They could have put it together for me, but
| they let me do it.
| JoshTriplett wrote:
| On a modern laptop running Linux, the three slowest things in
| the boot are:
|
| - The firmware
|
| - The bootloader timeout
|
| - Waiting for the user to type the encryption passphrase
|
| Everything else takes almost no time at all. So, if you can
| eliminate 5 seconds from the boot process in the normal case,
| without eliminating your ability to debug the system in the
| unusual case, that's a win.
| pm215 wrote:
| But how often do you boot a modern laptop in the first
| place? I feel lke the time I save in not waiting those 5
| seconds occasionally is all going to be spent again in the
| minutes wasted having to look up how I stop the instant
| autoboot (or failing to stop the autoboot and having to
| reset and try again) the first time I need to actually
| interact with grub...
| JoshTriplett wrote:
| Every time you update the Linux kernel, among other
| things.
|
| Or, if you're working on speeding up virtual machine
| boots, in which case you skip the bootloader entirely and
| use the kernel's EFI stub.
| Zardoz84 wrote:
| if you use the TPM storage, you can avoid typing the
| encryption passphrase
| JoshTriplett wrote:
| That doesn't provide the desired security, unless you
| also then carefully lock down the system so that the TPM
| doesn't provide the key if the software has changed.
| That's theoretically doable but challenging, with many
| failure modes in both directions: not being able to get
| into the system, or someone being able to get into the
| system when they shouldn't.
| lofaszvanitt wrote:
| .
| arp242 wrote:
| "Grand Theft Gentoo":
| https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Jacksaur/Gorgeous-GRUB/ref...
| 9dev wrote:
| Oh my gosh, that one's a gem! Rage Linus on the top right, smug
| confused Balmer on the bottom... the Gates mugshot is icing on
| the cake. awesome!
| WD-42 wrote:
| Stuff like this is why I fell in love with Linux. Some amazing
| creativity in here. Almost makes me wish I dual booted with
| something so I'd have an excuse to see grub!
| lopis wrote:
| This, wobbly windows and rain effects. I wouldn't use any of
| that today, but it captivated me, at a time when customizing
| windows was becoming more cumbersome with each release.
| Grosvenor wrote:
| I can finally make my computer look like the ones from hackers!
| Awesome.
| nico wrote:
| Haha, my first thought when I saw the themes was, wow this is
| exactly like the movie!
|
| Might rewatch it soon, been listening to the soundtrack while
| working lately :)
| spitfire wrote:
| A soundtrack so good they made three separate soundtracks.
| The last one was entirely music that wasn't in the movie.
|
| Fantastic.
| jwitthuhn wrote:
| Love the concept of BSOL, might give that a try.
| imcritic wrote:
| How do those background images scale on different
| monitors/resolutions?
|
| Btw, how does grub figure out in what resolution to draw the
| interface?
| mshockwave wrote:
| judging from some of these repos, I think the answer is: they
| don't. It seems like you have to manually pick images with the
| correct resolution
| shmerl wrote:
| You can set the resolution explicitly, otherwise it will render
| at resolution UEFI started the boot with.
| cosmic_cheese wrote:
| This is a significant peeve of mine. The need to explicitly
| specify resolution in boot managers is annoying for both
| laptops and machines that aren't always used with the same
| monitor, because no matter what it's going to end up in
| fallback with an ugly stretched resolution some portion of
| the time, rendering beautification with themes somewhat moot.
|
| This limit made sense 20+ years ago but today it feels highly
| anachronistic, kind of like finding a corded rotary phone
| mounted on a wall in the kitchen of an otherwise cutting edge
| home. Surely it's something that could be fixed?
| shmerl wrote:
| May be, but this is so minor in general, that I barely care
| as long as it boots properly.
|
| Way bigger annoyance is that grub still doesn't support
| luks2 and uses some gimped variant of libcrypto without
| proper hardware acceleration that decrypts boot volumes for
| almost a minute. That is way more serious than boot
| resolution annoyances.
| nextaccountic wrote:
| That's also a peeve of mine. Is there a way at all for
| grub to use hardware acceleration there? Or maybe the
| bootloader isn't allowed to do such things
| shmerl wrote:
| Yes - use newer libcrypto. They are in the process of
| switching, but it just takes very long. I don't see why
| bootloader won't be allowed to use the CPU features that
| accelerate decryption.
| bobmcnamara wrote:
| What can I say? Feels weird to include a JSON library in
| a bootloader.
| sneak wrote:
| Maybe a stage 0 bootloader, definitely not a stage 3 one.
| josteink wrote:
| We are talking about a stage 3 bootloader which supports
| booting from encrypted volumes and ZFS snapshots.
|
| JSON-support would be adding 0.001% extra to the overall
| package.
| cosmic_cheese wrote:
| In terms of material impact, it is minor but as far as
| impression shaping papercuts go, bootloader jank is
| pretty high up on the list.
| rsaxvc wrote:
| My pet peeve is that grub repartitions windows disks on
| chain load, so if it ever boots with the disks remapped,
| there's a chance it'll plow apart the partition table of
| whatever poor disk got mapped to that hd#.
| noisy_boy wrote:
| I'm still waiting for a bootloader that will show up right from
| the beginning on my external monitor like my desktop + CRT
| monitor could do 20 years ago. systemd-boot (included with
| Pop!_OS) doesn't do that - so I have to actually take out my
| (Thinkpad X1 extreme) laptop from its stand and open it up to be
| able to switch between boot options; would be good to know
| people's experience with Grub on this front.
| xnickb wrote:
| It's definitely a "you" problem. It works for me over a monitor
| connected via a docking station. I have tries pop os a while
| ago but it definitely worked.
| noisy_boy wrote:
| My setup is as Linux friendly/vanilla as it comes; my laptop
| and dock are both Thinkpad and the monitor is Dell. Nothing
| exotic. It didn't even work when my monitor was directly
| connected via USB-C or HDMI so I guess I'm out of ideas about
| how it is a "me" problem.
| boomboomsubban wrote:
| If you go into your UEFI, does your external monitor work?
| As Linux drivers wouldn't be in play when GRUB is running.
| PhilipRoman wrote:
| I suspect it may depend on the monitor, not the bootloader.
| Some of them have a longer delay when turning on than others.
| My 4k connected over displayport has no problem, but my old
| VGA/DVI monitor that I use for homelab recovery cannot turn on
| fast enough.
| micw wrote:
| Check your bios for primary display. If you manage to have the
| bios screen on the external display, it's very likely that the
| following bootloader will also use it. Works well on my
| ThinkPad+Dock.
| fuzzfactor wrote:
| Check the Thinkpad firmware settings to make sure the external
| monitor and/or dock GPU is the primary display which is
| effective during boot. On some PC's though you will then see
| nothing during boot on the laptop's own screen, sometimes even
| when the laptop is standalone. If Initial Graphics Device is
| set for "Auto" instead of a specific device, that may be OK but
| also may not be any different than you have now.
|
| The external monitor may also have multiple inputs to choose
| from, like VGA, DVI, HDMI, which also might be set to "Auto"
| scan for which one is active, and that can sometimes take more
| time to succeed than it takes to boot. If so, using the Input
| Option settings on the external monitor you may be able to
| specify your preferred input connection exclusively, or as
| default, and then be able to see something during the time that
| it's blank now.
| pndy wrote:
| I had one from Distro Themes once in Manjaro up until one of
| heavy updates overwritten it with default theme.
|
| Also, github gives me "You have exceeded a secondary rate limit"
| message while it's the first time I'm visiting it today. Yey.
| ykonstant wrote:
| I am weary of GRUB and try to avoid it. The codebase is legendary
| for its inscrutability, bugs and performance issues abound and
| its configuration ritual is ridiculous.
|
| And yet, it is king of bootloaders for a reason. It can frigging
| boot HannaMontanaBSD on an ENIAC. It can boot in UEFI mode, in
| BIOS mode, it is a chameleon that fits the hardware it is
| situated in. The devs have made a heroic piece of software.
|
| Perhaps the inscrutability of the code and its issues are
| inevitable given the scope of the project. I don't know, I just
| wish we had a more sane codebase with GRUB's capabilities.
| buserror wrote:
| Grub is like a turd that won't flush. It's been completely
| unnecessary for years, is massively overcomplicated, pretty much
| unusable as a shell with it's 1995 idioms, and there are much,
| MUCH lighter (and as useful) replacements (extlinux etc) -- and
| you can even just remove it completely and boot the kernel
| _directly_ these days with the EFI stub...
|
| But still, it gets installed, trying to justify its existence.
| onli wrote:
| Okay. I have a laptop here with windows, haiku and Linux. And
| actually the grub (2) configuration to get haiku to start was
| strange. What exactly do I install best to replace grub?
|
| Or alternatively, I have a PC with only Void Linux.
| Compatibility mode for booting, since uefi mode did not work (I
| dont know why - some secure boot shenanigans? MBR vs GPT mode?
| There is no EFI partition as well). What could replace grub
| there?
| johnisgood wrote:
| I am on Void Linux too, and grub works fine. _sighs_. Why
| would I replace what has worked for decades?
| onli wrote:
| I personally would like to be able to enable the UEFI boot
| mode of the board, so that I can enable Resizeable bar -
| for the performance benefit and to have the option to add
| an Intel GPU later. So cleaning up the GRUB situation could
| help me there - that's why my comment above was completely
| serious, I'd really look at suggestion.
|
| Because otherwise I see it like you, why change what works.
| Even the move to Grub 2 with the more complicated config
| options wasn't all that bad, since it really needed less
| often to be configured manually. So after a bit I was fine
| with that.
| the_gipsy wrote:
| In same boat here. I just do not understand the *EFI stuff
| anymore, and I've tried.
|
| I somehow got refind to work, after disabling some vaguely
| named "secure boot" option in the BIOS. It shows my several
| linux options, and the only one that works is "rescue", that
| boots what is apparently a systemd bootloader with Nix
| generations. When I select Windows, I get some windows boot
| menu/loader instead of directly booting Windows.
|
| I have no clue how it all works - there is some partition
| with some files, but I also must run some command to "apply"
| changes - I think. It's horrible.
| jimbosis wrote:
| I don't know if it will work for booting Windows, but have
| you tried installing Haiku's BootManager to the MBR?
|
| https://www.haiku-
| os.org/docs/userguide/en/applications/boot...
|
| On the booting Windows front, this thread has a few people
| describing how they successfully used BootManager to dual and
| triple boot Haiku, Windows 7, and/or Linux:
|
| https://discuss.haiku-os.org/t/dual-booting-haiku-and-
| window...
|
| I have a laptop (Lenovo ThinkPad T410s) with Haiku, Linux
| Mint, and Devuan GNU/Linux. I use BootManager in the MBR, and
| it gives me a menu of all three to choose from. For the two
| Linux options, I have GRUB installed on each of their own
| partitions, so BootManager just sends me to the GRUB
| installed on whichever Linux partition. (Of course, this
| isn't exactly "replacing" GRUB altogether.)
|
| I do it this way because I find dealing with BootManager to
| send me to individual GRUBs to boot a particular Linux
| partition much, much easier than fiddling with GRUB to boot
| Haiku.
|
| (One last thought, parenthetical as I'm not sure it can even
| work from a USB drive: Worst case, you might make a USB "boot
| stick" that uses BootManager to choose between Haiku and
| Linux and let Windows do its jolly thing on the MBR?)
| onli wrote:
| I tried to install the BootManager, but the limitations
| mentioned in the docs blocked the install. I think this
| part:
|
| > _BootManager isn 't yet tested very well and still has a
| few restrictions that it will complain about if they aren't
| met: the menu can only be installed on your first harddisk
| and there has to be a 2KiB space after the Master Boot
| Record (MBR)._
|
| No idea how to create those conditions, the 2KiB space, and
| since I would have to do it with gparted in Linux anyway
| this made me install Linux instead first (with grub).
|
| BootManager actually sounded nice - like you describe, I
| expected it to simply offer me the other OS(s) option(s),
| and I wasn't even set on installing Linux in the first
| place on that machine.
|
| To your parenthesis: Yeah, I even had a boot manager on USB
| once for my PC, so it crossed my mind here, but for a
| travel laptop this would be a bit uncomfortable.
| wrasee wrote:
| I thought the advent of UFEI would finally put GRUB to rest.
|
| Worse, if you dual boot and each OS installs its own GRUB you
| can get all kinds of silly situations where one GRUB will chain
| load to another GRUB and then boot the OS.
|
| Why not just hit F12 (or whatever) and UEFI gives you this nice
| little menu of all your boot options right there, before
| installers can come in and ruin it. (Like Windows that always
| seems to barge in and put itself on top trashing whatever you
| had before.)
| tmtvl wrote:
| Setting GRUB up with full-disk encryption and BTRFS snapshots
| is braindead easy. Maybe it'd be just as easy with Gummiboot or
| rEFInd, but you know what they say about fixing things that
| aren't broken.
| 63stack wrote:
| What's the current state of the art on this? Last time I
| looked it was really not trivial, because of two things:
|
| 1) there is only one bootloader (grub2) that can load kernels
| from encrypted /boot partitions, but the support for that is
| limited, you have to use a weaker encryption if I remember
| correctly, AND decryption speed (after entering the luks
| password) is super slow, because the CPU extensions that
| speed that up (AES) are not yet online that early in the boot
| process
|
| 2) you can choose to not encrypt /boot, and have it as a
| separate partition, but now your btrfs snapshots will not
| include the kernel, so restoring after kernel upgrades is
| going to break your system
| tmtvl wrote:
| I am only really familiar with Arch and OpenSUSE, so I
| don't know how other distros do it, but OpenSUSE keeps the
| (I believe) latest 5 kernels, so I just have to delete
| snapshots older than the oldest kernel in my /boot. I like
| that system so I do the same thing on Arch (but don't tell
| anyone, otherwise I'm gonna get yelled at).
| 63stack wrote:
| Doesn't deleting old kernels defeat snapshots? You do a
| system update, you get a new kernel, you delete the old
| ones, now all snapshots that depend on that older kernel
| are busted, what am I missing?
| tmtvl wrote:
| You may have misread, what I do is I keep the 5 latest
| versions of the kernel the distro ships and I delete
| snapshots which depend on kernels older than those 5. I
| could keep all the kernels and snapshots, but I don't
| have that much storage dedicated to / and /boot.
| johnisgood wrote:
| Check out Arch's wikipedia for plain dm-crypt.
| johnisgood wrote:
| It really is easy, it is just mostly a matter of proper
| initramfs, and a "linux" line in the GRUB configuration file.
| Arch wiki gets into it in detail.
| johnisgood wrote:
| I am perfectly fine with grub and os-prober.
| im3w1l wrote:
| Grub can't even boot my windows install. Maybe it's possible
| but after spending 4 hours on it I didn't feel like trying
| anymore.
| DaSHacka wrote:
| `GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false` ?
| im3w1l wrote:
| Doesn't work, no windows entry (I also ran sudo os-prober
| && sudo update-grub)
| spookie wrote:
| I don't get the hate. It just works for me, always has. And I
| have dual boot with encryption. It is such a small thing in the
| grand scheme of things.
|
| Now compare that with booting on arm...
| i80and wrote:
| Not the parent, but I've spent enough time in the GRUB
| recovery shell trying to recover inexplicably corrupted GRUB
| installs even as recently as last year.
|
| GRUB is shockingly fragile and painful to debug, though the
| recent movement on BLS hopefully will help with this.
| FitCodIa wrote:
| > Grub is like a turd that won't flush. It's been completely
| unnecessary for years, is massively overcomplicated
|
| shim + grub suck, but bare bones EFI sucks way more, generally
| speaking. Vendors of consumer-oriented EFI platforms ("client
| platforms") are batshit insane; they don't offer UEFI console
| redirection to/from the serial port even if the motherboard has
| one; they expose neither secure boot configuration nor boot
| options management to the user, and so on. A purely EFI-based
| boot loader such as systemd-boot or rEFInd remains the least
| annoying choice, IMO.
| shmerl wrote:
| > completely unnecessary
|
| Is it? How can you boot from encrypted volumes without it? I
| looked into systemd-boot, but I don't think it's capable.
| coolgoose wrote:
| Everybody complaining about grub forgot about lilo
| whalesalad wrote:
| RIP. Pouring one out for Linux loader.
| dig1 wrote:
| Lilo is still alive and kicking on Slackware ;)
| Tsiklon wrote:
| Does LILO work on EFI systems or is GRUB preferred in that
| case? I've not built a Slackware box in a long time...
| maybe this evening I'll see about putting a VM together
| dig1 wrote:
| Slack ships elilo package for EFI systems. AFAIK config
| (elilo.conf) should be pretty much the same as standard
| lilo.conf
| fuzzfactor wrote:
| I still prefer Syslinux but it's still not officially
| supporting UEFI yet :(
|
| The only time I would want Grub is for that reason
| primarily. But it makes sense to be very familiar with Grub
| so you can not be screwed up by systems you encounter which
| may have been set up, "grub-reinstalled", or configured by
| those who are not as familiar as they should have been.
|
| Once you do have a regular ordinary multiboot system or SSD
| that includes one or more Linux installs, with Grub working
| well, then adding the themes like this is only the icing on
| the cake.
| teekert wrote:
| Hehe I was like: What?! Grub was LiLo's successor and much
| better! What happened to the time?!
|
| Back in the day I had a cool self made theme from Ghost in the
| Shell, I remember making some very obscure image format from
| some jpeg I found online. Man what time I have put into
| customizing my Linux experiences. The computer was truly a
| (well trimmed) pet. With desktops on kubes with fish inside and
| reflections etc.
| FlyingSnake wrote:
| Oh dear, you transported me back to 2003
| NikkiA wrote:
| ITYM Lilililililililililili....
| typh00n wrote:
| I use and like rEFInd as my primary bootloader to dualboot
| Windows and Fedora.
|
| Hackernews is obviously full of technical volks with need for
| encryption and what not, but I just like the macOS bootloader
| inspired looks that i could not replicate with grub.
| christina97 wrote:
| Very timely. I'm currently in the middle of upgrading Ubuntu
| inside chroot to get a new version of grub that doesn't have a
| bug with encrypted ZFS hoping it'll fix my boot... Note to the
| universe: don't touch ZFS with a 10 foot pole unless it's your
| full time job to maintain storage clusters.
| 1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote:
| https://hmarco.org/bugs/CVE-2015-8370-Grub2-authentication-b...
| tmountain wrote:
| Personally... love it. Great for the people that want to flex
| this kind of aesthetic.
| lofaszvanitt wrote:
| Just like good ol installers, like the one made for C&C. When
| things had some soul.
| causality0 wrote:
| Very pretty. Is it still impossible to change the order of the
| boot list from inside grub?
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