[HN Gopher] AI models routinely lie when honesty conflicts with ...
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       AI models routinely lie when honesty conflicts with their goals
        
       Author : rntn
       Score  : 16 points
       Date   : 2025-05-01 19:37 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | alexjplant wrote:
       | Is "2010" becoming real life? [1]
       | 
       | > Chandra discovers the reasons for HAL's malfunction: the NSC
       | ordered HAL to conceal information about the monolith from
       | Discovery's crew, and programmed him to complete the mission
       | alone. This conflicted with HAL's programming, the open and
       | accurate processing of information, causing the computer
       | equivalent of a paranoid breakdown.
       | 
       | [1]
       | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010:_The_Year_We_Make_Conta...
        
       | b88m wrote:
       | This title is simply the definition of hallucination in LLMs
       | trained by RLHF.
        
       | HarHarVeryFunny wrote:
       | This makes it sound like LLMs are sentient and machiavellian,
       | when they are just dumb statistical generators. An LLM doesn't
       | have any goals other than the biases the model trainers chose to
       | impart via RLHF, aside from which it is just trying to predict
       | "what would the training data have said".
       | 
       | If you insist on anthromorphizing the model, then it's goal is to
       | please the RLHF testers, subject to pulling from the repertoire
       | of responses that are statistically faithful to the training
       | data.
        
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