[HN Gopher] How the Water System Works
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       How the Water System Works
        
       Author : SCEtoAux
       Score  : 41 points
       Date   : 2025-05-01 15:16 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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       | latchkey wrote:
       | Funny, I've been to the hotspring in the photo.
        
         | uoaei wrote:
         | Crab Cooker, yeah?
        
       | m3047 wrote:
       | > There is so little fresh surface water on Earth that if you
       | collected it all into a ball, it would barely reach across New
       | York City.
       | 
       | I'm not sure what this means. I think we could drop New York City
       | in one of the Great Lakes with little problem... or drop Moscow
       | in Lake Baikal if you prefer.
        
         | jcranmer wrote:
         | I think the interpretation is "take the volume of fresh surface
         | water on Earth", then "make that volume into a perfect sphere",
         | and the diameter of that sphere is smaller than NYC.
        
           | sandworm101 wrote:
           | I don't think that is even true. This may refer to the total
           | volume of potable water. between the great lakes and
           | Antarctica, there is lots of non-salt water out there. Easy
           | google results show 35 million cubic kilometers, which is a
           | rather large sphere.
           | 
           | https://www.gigacalculator.com/calculators/volume-of-
           | sphere-...
           | 
           | A 35 million cubic kilometer sphere would be roughly 400km
           | across. NYC is big, but not that big.
        
             | jcranmer wrote:
             | The volume of the Great Lakes, per Wolfram Alpha [1], makes
             | a sphere ~22 miles in diameter. The Great Lakes is ~20% of
             | the world's surface fresh water.
             | 
             | Your number of 35 million cubic kilometers includes the
             | Antarctic ice sheet, but the definition of "fresh surface
             | water" sounds to me like it intends to exclude the ice
             | sheets from the list.
             | 
             | [1] https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=%28volume+of+great
             | +lake...
        
       | Calwestjobs wrote:
       | Great article.
        
       | 1970-01-01 wrote:
       | Water is why life never left Earth. We would already be living on
       | Mars or the moon if there was just a lake or two of water. Water
       | got what plants crave.
       | 
       | https://www.nasa.gov/humans-in-space/scientists-grow-plants-...
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAqIJZeeXEc
        
         | brainzap wrote:
         | plants also like sun and gravity, and wind
        
       | viccis wrote:
       | >Although a dozen or so Johnny Appleseed festivals are still
       | celebrated, he is less likely to be found in children's books
       | today.
       | 
       | Is this true? Grade school was full of Johnny Appleseed facts
       | when I was a kid.
        
       | lubitelpospat wrote:
       | If irrigation consumes 75%, and industry consumes another 20 -
       | how can household usage be at 10%? I feel like these numbers are
       | a little misleading.
        
         | southernplaces7 wrote:
         | Without digging into the validity of the numbers, it doesn't
         | seem so odd to me. Agricultural and industrial uses of anything
         | are on a huge, well, industrial scale, and domestic uses are
         | numerous but relatively small in comparison and people tend to
         | overestimate them because these uses are what most of us more
         | directly and frequently observe.
         | 
         | It's sort of like CO2 production. Many people get encouraged to
         | do their nearly symbolic reduction "contribution", while real
         | CO2 production remains the same or rises since something like
         | 80% of all emissions are generated by just a few dozen
         | corporations globally.
        
           | quietbritishjim wrote:
           | Their point is the numbers don't add up to 100%. And it's 5%
           | over so can't just be a rounding issue.
        
           | mmooss wrote:
           | > 80% of all emissions are generated by just a few dozen
           | corporations globally.
           | 
           | Which ones?
           | 
           | > Many people get encouraged to do their nearly symbolic
           | reduction "contribution"
           | 
           | I think that's a fallacy of the climate change denier crowd,
           | who go from 'it's not happening' to 'humans aren't causing
           | it' to 'there's nothing we can do about it' or 'there is
           | nothing you can do about it'. It's also a fallacy of the
           | right that collective action by the left is powerless - it's
           | an effective fallacy, because many on the left believe it!
           | 
           | What amount of GHG emissions is from consumers?
        
       | roxolotl wrote:
       | This article reminds me about how much I hate bottled water, in
       | places where potable water is cheap and plentiful. It's such an
       | incredibly cynical thing that many American families, again those
       | who have cheap potable water, go through cases of water a week.
       | "A spring in every home" like the article says is a modern
       | miracle. It's one of the things that if someone was brought here
       | from even just the 1800s they'd be focused on. And yet we've
       | managed to build a market primarily focused on recreating
       | scarcity of fresh water.
       | 
       | I don't know what that says about us. It doesn't make me feel
       | good though.
        
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