[HN Gopher] Zhaoxin's KX-7000
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       Zhaoxin's KX-7000
        
       Author : ryandotsmith
       Score  : 53 points
       Date   : 2025-04-30 20:23 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | vessenes wrote:
       | Love reading these highly detailed analyses. Short version:
       | Zhaoxin's currently competitive with 2010/2011-era AMD and Intel,
       | with some asterisks around RAM speed.
       | 
       | There is to my mind a sort of race to get up to "fast enough to
       | host H100 competitor AI hardware" with non-US IP that makes sense
       | to engage in. In those terms, it looks like they're maybe 2 revs
       | away -- I'm not sure what process node the KX7000 is on, but
       | there's some architectural work to finish up. That said, this is
       | interesting. I assume the chips will continue to improve from
       | Zhaoxin, unless they lose their core team.
        
       | daniel_iversen wrote:
       | This is interesting! Does anyone know how China's reliance on
       | chips from intel and amd is in the non-AI space (so regular
       | consumer and server loads)? I'm wondering how it was 10 and 5
       | years ago, now, and how we predict in the next couple of years.
       | Surely if they're not mostly using their own chips they will very
       | soon right?
        
         | daniel_iversen wrote:
         | I asked ChatGPT and if it's correct it seems like there's lots
         | of government push to remove foreign hardware and for actual
         | government computers its mostly local CPUs but for consumer PCs
         | ow still mostly intel and amd.
        
       | IncreasePosts wrote:
       | What's the deal with the municipal government being a partner in
       | this project? Is that structure common in china? Is it just them
       | giving VIA tax breaks and things, or are they more involved than
       | that?
        
         | fspeech wrote:
         | Do governments allow some of their employees to be highly
         | compensated relative to others? Would someone with real
         | expertise in chip development work for the government at what
         | the government is willing to pay? I think the answer is no.
        
           | wmf wrote:
           | The Chinese government has definitely "bought back" some top
           | talent from the US. It's probably a small number of people.
           | 
           | I'm not sure why local governments would get involved
           | although in general China has had a problem with too much
           | investment and not enough places for it to go. It's not
           | impossible that there are essentially local sovereign wealth
           | funds.
        
         | jenny91 wrote:
         | Yes, it's very common in China.
        
       | Merrill wrote:
       | How would use of the Kylin OS instead of Windows 11 affect the
       | user's perception of performance?
        
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