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Date : 2025-04-29 20:59 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| JohnFen wrote:
| What a surprise.
| rectang wrote:
| I have zero faith in "free market" ideologues, because what we
| actually get when they gain power is just favoritism for "free
| market" ideologues.
| aswanson wrote:
| Same. This era has exposed them as the shameless hypocrites
| they are.
| resters wrote:
| There is not and has never been any trace of free speech or
| free market "ideology" from Trump. Perhaps as a talking point
| but never in any policy or action. Trump is the anti-
| libertarian, severely authoritarian and moving things toward
| a centrally planned economy!
| intermerda wrote:
| You can extend the "free market ideologues" to include more
| groups such as those who were very concerned about free speech
| for exactly four years from 2021-2024. Same people were
| concerned about politicization of justice department, but only
| when certain Presidents are in office. Same goes for "respect
| for constitution". "Family values" was abandoned quite a while
| ago.
|
| Wilhoit's Law has never been truer.
| sidibe wrote:
| Can't forget being "for the rule of law".
| legitster wrote:
| Trump was never actually a "free market" idealogue. And the GOP
| officially dropped any mentions of it from their party platform
| a few years ago.
|
| If anything, they are doing exactly what they promised. They
| were against globalism and elites and international agreements
| and governance and they are being true to their words.
| fullshark wrote:
| The "libertarians" who are in bed with Trump however...
| ryandrake wrote:
| If I was forced to say one good thing about the guy, it's
| that he is quickly and faithfully delivering on his campaign
| promises, moreso than any other president that ever served in
| my lifetime. He's blasting right through the Project 2025
| checklist and doing exactly what he said he'd do. Those
| campaign promises are destructive, thoughtless, cruel, and
| self-serving, but he said he'd do them, was elected, and then
| subsequently did them. So, I'll give him that.
| cosmicgadget wrote:
| While I agree with the sentiment that he is not backing
| down from a lot of his batshit promises, let's not forget
| that he made a lot of promises. The Russian invasion didn't
| end on day 1 or day 100 and he decided to only strongarm
| one side - iirc he said he would threaten Ukraine with
| withdrawing support and threaten Russia with giving obscene
| amounts of support to Ukraine.
| tchock23 wrote:
| Like launching a private $500k membership club for elites:
|
| https://www.the-independent.com/life-style/donald-trump-
| jr-m...
|
| True to their word!
| nostromo wrote:
| Trump is in no way a free market ideologue and has made that
| very clear. Or are you talking about Elon?
| rectang wrote:
| The Trump administration and his circle of economic policy
| makers, and Musk in particular for his DOGE work which has
| included firing regulatory enforcers.
| creddit wrote:
| Trump has literally been prattling about his love of tariffs
| for decades and was explicit about his plans to heavily
| leverage tariffs during his campaign..
|
| I think you might just want an excuse to believe what you
| already believe
| tim333 wrote:
| It's hard to label Trump a free market ideologue. He's more Mr
| tarrif man.
|
| If you want free markets look more to Lee Kuan Yew and
| Singapore (#1 on the "Index of Economic Freedom").
| joshdavham wrote:
| This is crony capitalism.
| throwaway48476 wrote:
| It is but it always has been. I would also appreciate if the
| big 3 American car companies had 85% American content.
| JumpCrisscross wrote:
| > _would also appreciate if the big 3 American car companies
| had 85% American content_
|
| Versus 80%? Those five percentage points are worth a double-
| digit tariff.
| throwaway48476 wrote:
| 5 percentage points should be easy enough for them to
| change then by moving a few supply chains.
| kasey_junk wrote:
| So make it 90% and don't give Tesla the special
| treatment.
| moralestapia wrote:
| Then the exact discussion will come up with a different
| number.
|
| A guide to improve metacognition skills, https://cdn.serc
| .carleton.edu/files/evaluateur/methods/metac....
| JumpCrisscross wrote:
| > _Then the exact same discussion will come up with a
| different number_
|
| No?
|
| The point is there is no reason for the number 85 other
| than benefiting Tesla. The metacognitive question should
| be how one should estimate that variable in a way which
| balances disruption with incentivising the desired
| outcome.
| moralestapia wrote:
| Explain how the number 90 would be different than the
| number 85?
|
| Provide source for any claims you make.
| jrflowers wrote:
| Your answer to the question "Is the 5% between 80 and 85%
| worth a double-digit tariff?" here is "Yes. A double
| digit tariff on a car that is 80% made in America makes
| sense."
|
| Right?
| metalman wrote:
| and then there is the other side of the 14.9% coin, which
| will be fought over by Canada(read ontario), Mexico, China,
| and the rest when it comes parts and cars made in Canada
| and Mexico, that is going to be tricky, as both countrys
| have historicaly bought a lot of US cars and other stuff,
| but will now be in no possition to also play along with the
| anti china stance in the US and tarrifs, and all the other
| issues at the borders.......geoplotical has more meaning
| now.
| qwerpy wrote:
| What should we call it when the other side does things in the
| opposite direction? https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-
| news/politics/wa-legisl...
|
| Punitive legislation? Lawfare? Crony capitalism but for the
| other companies?
| mystraline wrote:
| Used cars are ALSO exempt.
|
| And, all used goods bought at secondhand stores are tariff-exempt
| as well. And so is FB marketplace, Craigslist, and others.
|
| My protest is meager, but effective for us - we just will buy
| used and use 'Reduce, Reuse, Repair, Recycle' where we can.
| EnEnough of us doing that will slow and hamper the economy (read:
| rich peoples' money).
| userbinator wrote:
| That suggests an ecosystem may appear around making new goods
| "used" enough to meet some legal definition.
| coaksford wrote:
| I think the meaning was not "You can import used cars without
| tariffs", but "If you buy used cars already in the country,
| you don't pay the new tariff, so just don't buy new cars."
| rtkwe wrote:
| If you're importing it it doesn't matter it's condition other
| than it's worth less so the tariff would be less. What they
| mean is if you buy goods that are already here there's no
| tariff, but they will also go up in price too as the new item
| goes up.
| seanmcdirmid wrote:
| Isn't that actually what they've been doing in Cuba since the
| revolution? I'm sure those old cars should have been retired
| by now and replaced with cheap Chinese imports, but for a few
| decades, they were refurbishing American-made cars
| continuously.
| toast0 wrote:
| Are you saying if I import a used car, I don't have to pay
| tariffs? Factory delivery programs would become a lot more
| popular.
|
| Or are you just saying that if I buy a car that's already in
| the US and has already had any import tariffs due at time of
| import paid, I won't have to pay them again? That's a lot less
| interesting.
| Aloisius wrote:
| Yes. Volvo has had a program for decades where they fly you
| to Sweden where drive a vehicle around long enough for it to
| be "used", buy it then they ship it over to the US to avoid
| US new car import tariffs.
| bushido wrote:
| Very surprised to learn that this is real
| https://www.volvocars.com/us/l/osd-tourist/
|
| Pretty cool. Lots more info on reddit threads.
| yareally wrote:
| Audi, BMW and Mercedes did this as well until a few years
| ago.
|
| https://www.capitalone.com/cars/learn/finding-the-right-
| car/...
| TimTheTinker wrote:
| Yes - my question exactly.
|
| I was strongly considering importing a 25-year-old kei truck
| from Japan before the tariffs were announced.
| toast0 wrote:
| Seems to me that it's probably worth the incremental cost
| to buy one that's already here and registered in your
| state; there's a lot of unknowns in customs and vehicle
| licensing, and I'd rather not deal with it. But I spent my
| weird car slot on a 1981 Vanagon instead of a kei
| truck/van.
| jmyeet wrote:
| Used cars respond to market forces too.
|
| If new cars become much more expensive, used cars will become
| much more expensive. This isn't even a theoretical idea. The
| exact thing happend in 2020-2021 when you couldn't buy a new
| car.
|
| This is what many don't understand about tariffs in general:
| you put tariffs on foreign goods and anything exempt will
| simply raise their prices to match.
| amelius wrote:
| If it walks like a coup and quacks like a coup ...
| gjsman-1000 wrote:
| Nonsense. Does anyone seriously think the military is going to
| defy SCOTUS at the end of the four years? Does anyone seriously
| think Jan 6th, bad as it was, was going to end the republic[0]?
| Such hyperbole is dangerous at best when people take it
| seriously.
|
| [0] Especially because what it tells our enemies. Iran, take
| out just this one specific building, and America is done for!
| Spooky23 wrote:
| What did the military do on Jan 6? They stood back and did
| nothing.
|
| That wasn't an actual coup because some Capitol Police had
| the balls to do their job and Vice President Pence is a
| patriot.
|
| I'm sure the next time around anyone "untrustworthy" in the
| police force will have been removed, and the national Guard
| in surrounding states will have routine training in Alaska.
| gjsman-1000 wrote:
| > They stood back and did nothing
|
| There's no reason to have a full allergic reaction to a
| mosquito bite.
| cogman10 wrote:
| The mob was literally minutes away from congressional
| people. They further kept those same congresspeople
| surrounded and locked up for hours until Trump called
| them off.
|
| Ashley Babbitt died because she broken through the last
| barrier between the mob and congress. Had this mob been
| armed (and there were plans of being armed that were
| ultimately scuttled), it could have been a blood bath.
| There was only a handful of LEO between the mob and
| congress.
|
| This wasn't a "mosquito bite".
|
| Now, what would have changed if the mob had their way
| with congress or the supreme court? Who knows. For the
| SC, it'd have given trump the ability to put in more yes
| men to rubber stamp his election loss narrative.
|
| For congress, the plan was literally to have
| congressional collaborators challenge the validity of the
| election (which still happened) to take power. If many
| democrat reps lost their life, then yes, congress could
| have rubberstamped a trump victory. Very few republicans
| stood up to trump or his plans.
|
| "What could they have done", the answer is kill a bunch
| of congress people in the opposing party to empower their
| party.
|
| This was a big deal.
| gjsman-1000 wrote:
| You're exaggerating to try to make a point, but I'm not
| convinced.
|
| You're saying that it could have been much worse _if_ the
| mob had gotten into Congress, followed by _if_ the mob
| had offed Democrats, followed by _if_ the Republicans
| then rubber stamped it and didn 't have their own
| objections, followed by _if_ the Supreme Court was also
| killed or _if_ the Supreme Court chose to take no action
| _and if_ the states involved like California also decided
| to go along with everything _and if_ the military
| leadership also had no objections _assuming of course_
| that no republicans or Trump himself died at any point
| through the process.
|
| That's so implausible to chain it all together, I might
| as well make a similar case for a group of guys with
| bombs in their cars.
| intermerda wrote:
| Oh I thought the military takes orders from the Command-in-
| Chief. Silly me. Maybe Alito and Thomas can tell the Joint
| Chiefs to provide protection to the Proud Boys to storm the
| Capitol in 2028.
| gjsman-1000 wrote:
| > takes orders from the Command-in-Chief
|
| They do, but Congress and the Supreme Court selected by
| Congress together define who this figure is. There is no
| sign that the military was prepared to defy either.
| MildlySerious wrote:
| > Such hyperbole is dangerous at best when people take it
| seriously.
|
| The same is true about the sitting president and some of his
| staunch supporters repeatedly "joking" about, and alluding to
| a third term[1][2][3][4] - including merch[5].
|
| [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-
| third-te...
|
| [2] https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5104133-rep-andy-
| ogles-pr...
|
| [3] https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-
| jokes-ru...
|
| [4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9-ft4BvHTE
|
| [5] https://citizen-
| times.com/story/news/local/2025/04/29/trump-...
| carpo wrote:
| It's not one event that destroys a republic, but a series of
| little ones that slowly erode the norms, until all of sudden
| there's someone willing to cross the Rubicon. You've got 44
| months of erosion to go.
| tomrod wrote:
| https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JN1oBfg0fwI
|
| The danger is here. Due process is being denied, inch by
| inch.
| Spooky23 wrote:
| Now they need a special insurance subsidy to offset the extra
| costs for losses.
| readthenotes1 wrote:
| Most positive take:
|
| Someone asked what is the car model with the most American parts
| right now? We will make everyone meet that benchmark or better.
| Animats wrote:
| The CEO of Ford is very critical of Trump.
|
| But Ford can probably get the USA content for gas-powered
| Mustangs up from 80% to 85%. The electric version is made in
| Mexico, but once Ford's Blue Oval City plant in Tennessee comes
| up in 2027, that will move to the US.
|
| Of course, who knows where Trump will be by then.
| bix6 wrote:
| How long do you think that 5% will take them?
| plaurens wrote:
| Curious about Rivian...
| cjbenedikt wrote:
| Won't safe his Chinese sales though
| wahern wrote:
| Tesla builds Model 3s and Ys in their Shanghai factory using
| almost entirely domestically sourced components, and even
| exports a fair number from there. But perhaps the trade war
| will reduce demand.
| Brian_K_White wrote:
| I am kind of surprised that the collection of people at the tops
| of all the big companies commanding so many billions, don't have
| some sort of behind the scenes levers they can pull to make him
| squeal like a pig, elected office or no.
|
| I can only assume they're all actually largely ok with it.
|
| I would not have imagined that they just never thought about
| things like that in general and now have actually no idea what to
| do now that this kind of situation has happened. _I_ have no
| previously considered reactions or plans for most things and life
| just smacks me in the face like I 've been walking with my eyes
| closed, but _I 'm_ a hapless midwit.
| crazygringo wrote:
| Why aren't you assuming the opposite -- that these mythical
| levers don't actually exist?
| noduerme wrote:
| Most people feel like hapless midwits, and we know that most of
| us actually are. Yet we have this tendency to assume, for some
| weird reason, that people in important positions have their
| shit together more than we do. Only in emergencies and times of
| crisis do we see that _no one_ has their shit together. When we
| see that, we want to blame it on conspiracy or some sort of
| 5-dimensional chess being played, because it goes against the
| safe notion that someone, somewhere, is steering the boat (even
| if we don 't like where they're taking us). But the safer bet
| is that no one is steering, and no one actually can steer, and
| that it's incompetence all the way to to the top.
| SimianSci wrote:
| There seems to be a (largely American) misconception that
| people in positions of power are there because they earned such
| a position through being capable and competent.
|
| Most people in power lack critical thinking skills, having
| earned their position primarily due to the circumstances of
| their birth and the people they know.
|
| It is incredibly rare for someone who is competent enough to
| weild such levers of power to be granted access to them.
| creddit wrote:
| > I am kind of surprised that the collection of people at the
| tops of all the big companies commanding so many billions,
| don't have some sort of behind the scenes levers they can pull
| to make him squeal like a pig, elected office or no.
|
| The "US is an oligarchy, the corporations are in control" was
| always a false narrative.
| woah wrote:
| You're so wedded to your overly simplistic and conspiratorial
| worldview that everything is a secret plan by "the elites",
| that now you've had to invent a new conspiracy about how they
| all had a secret plan to lose themselves billions of dollars.
|
| Sometimes a stupid guy gets elected by low-information voters,
| and enacts stupid policies that crash the economy. There isn't
| any secret illuminati meeting where they can tell him to stop.
| gehwartzen wrote:
| How is the unit for domestic component content defined? Is a
| screw a component in the same way a windshield is? Is it by
| weight? By cost?
| leptons wrote:
| Yes.
| alwa wrote:
| It appears that the American Automobile Labeling Act measures
| domestic content on a value basis (that is, the amount the
| manufacturer pays the supplier for it):
|
| https://www.nhtsa.gov/part-583-american-automobile-labeling-...
| bix6 wrote:
| It's funny cybertruck doesn't make the cut, unfortunately nobody
| buys those so it's irrelevant.
| marcusb wrote:
| I see them quite frequently where I live, usually covered in a
| vinyl wrap advertising some local business or other.
| unsnap_biceps wrote:
| There appears to be someone in my local city that is using
| their cybertruck as a billboard. They drive around during
| rush hours and every week or so they switch the wrap to a
| different company. I wonder if it's being widely done
| elsewhere.
| cwmoore wrote:
| I saw a plain white one that could represent a drywall
| business.
| marcusb wrote:
| My wife says the wrapped ones of any color look better
| than stock. She thinks the stock ones look like toasters,
| and that Tesla should have painted two red/orange stripes
| along the tonneau cover to complete the stock look.
| marcusb wrote:
| I haven't seen anything like that where I live. I see the
| same businesses over and over, and often see them parked at
| or near the business in question.
| assimpleaspossi wrote:
| In St Louis, I see them everywhere, too. Not as advertising
| but just driving around town.
|
| There's a mall that closed and, for a while, there were
| hundreds parked in that lot waiting to be sold (and they
| were).
| socalgal2 wrote:
| I don't know if it's the same people but many of the comments
| here seem the opposite of the comments on EUs rules where people
| say they're targeting specific companies and comments say "no,
| the rules are such than all companies over a certain size are
| covered".
|
| If the rule is 85% domestic than any company can do it.
|
| I'm not saying the tariffs are good. Only that their point is to
| get things made domesticly
| tedunangst wrote:
| It's different when I like the rules.
| qwerpy wrote:
| Washington state is going in the other direction:
| https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/wa-
| legisl...
|
| I'm sure the targeted aspect of that one is applauded by the
| same side that is unhappy about this tariff.
|
| At least in the tariff case, it's an objective numerical
| target and probably even achievable by other manufacturers.
| Ford is only 5% away from the target for some of its models.
| KerrAvon wrote:
| >If the rule is 85% domestic than any company can do it.
|
| To be making this claim, you must be an vehicle supply chain
| expert, so can you tell the rest of us which parts can be
| domestically sourced in the US and which can't?
|
| Also, why is the Model S is stuck at 80%?
| KerrAvon wrote:
| > Only that their point is to get things made domesticly
|
| False! You need to revise your media diet if you truly believe
| this. The point of the tariffs is that Trump's brain is stuck
| in 1983, when he first heard someone talk about tariffs, and
| he's surrounded himself with mentally-ill sycophants and
| psychotically deranged nerds (derogatory) who have their own
| reasons for wanting to tear everything down.
| moralestapia wrote:
| Source, you?
| gkoberger wrote:
| Why 85% and not 80%? It's an arbitrary cutoff that happens to
| benefit Elon.
|
| Ford will quickly get to 85%, but you can't deny this is yet
| again a move that is touted as "pro-America" yet somehow mainly
| benefits Musk (or Trump or someone in their orbit).
| nostromo wrote:
| Three Tesla models meet the 85% threshold and three do not.
|
| If Tesla was writing these rules, surely they'd have chosen
| the 80% threshold instead.
|
| I doubt they see the Ford Mustang as being in their same
| target market, and wouldn't be a reason to increase the
| standard.
| makeitdouble wrote:
| When you say EU rules, I guess it's the GDPR part on having the
| user data stay in the EU?
|
| Otherwise I don't see any other rule that would ask the foreign
| company to move most of it's workforce and production capacity.
| rco8786 wrote:
| Just a coincidence that the only company that _currently_ fits
| the criteria is Tesla then.
|
| Everyone else can start rearranging their supply chains and
| building new factories to comply. Easy peasy right? Be up and
| running in a few weeks, at most, right?
| ajmurmann wrote:
| With the assumption of course that tariffs won't change
| before new factories even have come online in a less optimal
| place. I'd be hard pressed to invest huge amounts of money
| like that when we are on tariff policy change 80-something in
| 100 days while I also hearing about imminent "trade deals".
| seanmcdirmid wrote:
| I think Honda already has like 75% American parts in the cars
| they produce in Indiana. It was actually listed on the Acura
| ILX I bought from them awhile back.
| jwilber wrote:
| The key is the "...over a certain size" solely benefiting the
| richest man in the world, who just so happens to be heavily
| involved (despite no election) in the very government setting
| the policy and determining the size.
| markvdb wrote:
| > I'm not saying the tariffs are good. Only that their point is
| to get things made domesticly
|
| ...or to create massive stock market front-running
| opportunities with plausible deniability.
|
| "But, but, Hanlon's razor!". Sorry, but at this level of
| responsibility, incompetence equals malice.
|
| We fscking all have to live with the consequences. That
| includes those of us who could not vote for an alternative.
| viraptor wrote:
| It's not just the idea in isolation though. I don't think
| anyone would complain much if the rule was "in N mths the
| threshold is X". Everyone could do the necessary adjustments
| and play by the same rules. But if the rule applies
| immediately, favours the guy who gave you millions, and impacts
| the competition financially where they need to make me
| investments to comply with the rules... yeah, that stinks even
| if it looks like a generic rule.
| DAGdug wrote:
| They search space for criteria is practically limitless. They
| have and would absolutely fish for precisely the criteria
| benefiting Musk. This playbook has been applied well by the
| crony capitalist class in the 3rd world, and is always a moving
| target. Most players know that and will not chase the moving
| target, knowing that another set of rules will emerge that will
| create new hurdles protecting the crony capitalist. A few will,
| and get burned.
|
| There are two reasons to believe this is applicable here: 1.
| Trump has a track record of quid pro quos (Adelson being a
| salient example). Musk is definitely seeking his pound of flesh
| 2. Lutnick urged people to buy Tesla (shocking and explicit
| favoritism) The view that this is just incentivizing local
| production is naive.
| Aloisius wrote:
| Sure it's 85% now, but what about tomorrow? Next week? Next
| month?
|
| This administration's policy decisions aren't particularly
| stable.
| Rapzid wrote:
| I would be surprised if Ford does anything drastic with their
| supply chain. Probably just wait this out. POTUS is going to be
| stripped of this ridiculous tariff "power" one way or another.
|
| * Bogus emergency is up for review
|
| * Congress discussing stripping power
|
| * Constitutionality in question
|
| * Public going to to bury them in the midterms if this keeps up
| asdsadasdasd123 wrote:
| I dont understand what this article means. Tesla's aren't
| imported so why would there be tariffs on them. The source link
| leads nowhere.
| crazygringo wrote:
| It seems to be about a tariff rebate on imported _parts_.
| frabcus wrote:
| Right but presumably 85% of the parts aren't imported? So
| while it is a benefit, it is a slightly bizarre one?
|
| Would be nice to see a technical definition for how the %
| imported is worked out.
| Jtsummers wrote:
| The tariffs cover parts as well as whole vehicles. The thing
| announced here is that they'll have a rebate program if the car
| is 85% manufactured in the US, and the rebate will be in effect
| for 2 years. So you still pay the tariff on parts, but you get
| some or all the money back if you meet that threshold. The idea
| being that it gives the company two years to move their parts
| manufacturing or sources. But the threshold is so high that
| only Tesla gets to enjoy the rebate, not any other company.
| guywithahat wrote:
| I wonder how much their lack of union plays into this. The auto
| factories fled Flint/Detroit due to the UAW basically an attempt
| to limit the scope of strikes and violence from the UAW. Tesla
| doesn't have to worry about unions (at least yet), and so they
| have very centralized factories where an enormous amount of work
| is done. Probably makes it easier to do everything in the US if
| you can do it all in one building
| porphyra wrote:
| In the long run, unions can be blamed for this whole Trump
| Presidency.
|
| Biden was pressured by unions to snub Tesla at the EV summit.
| This personally offended Elon, who then went to support Trump
| with all sorts of tactics including buying Twitter to amplify
| his voice.
| ivape wrote:
| Is Citizen's United the only thing that allowed one person to
| donate $150 million? This is the obvious flaw. We would need
| a RICO type framework to identify the basket of vectors that
| one person/organization can use to funnel money to a
| candidate. This is a bipartisan issue but I don't know how we
| can surface the narrative so more people can talk about it.
| lenerdenator wrote:
| > In the long run, unions can be blamed for this whole Trump
| Presidency.
|
| Yeah, how dare they do the things that make reactionaries
| be... reactionary.
| bgwalter wrote:
| Lutnick is a man of his word:
|
| https://fortune.com/2025/03/20/howard-lutnick-pumps-tesla-st...
|
| Tesla is now above that price from March again. Orangehorseshoe
| loves Tesla!
| umvi wrote:
| I wonder if Slate (https://www.slate.auto/) will be exempt as
| well since they tout "Made in USA"
| briandear wrote:
| Japan's trade barriers on foreign autos have been legendary.
|
| https://www.americanautomakers.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/...
| FrustratedMonky wrote:
| The plan all along?
| matt3210 wrote:
| It's pretty coincidental. I can't help but wonder if the number
| was picked for this outcome
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