[HN Gopher] Boxie - an always offline audio player for my 3 year...
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       Boxie - an always offline audio player for my 3 year old
        
       Author : badlogic
       Score  : 237 points
       Date   : 2025-04-27 20:40 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | OccamsMirror wrote:
       | This is pretty awesome. Although disheartening that you ended up
       | spending much more than just buying a Yoto player or Toniebox.
       | But I'm sure the learning and accomplishment have been worth the
       | expense.
        
         | badlogic wrote:
         | Just factoring in the BOM cost including 3D printer materials
         | this comes out quite below a retail Tonie Box. The same is true
         | for the cartridges vs. Tonie figurines.
         | 
         | The tools are definitely a big expense, but are in constant use
         | for other projects, so ammortize.
         | 
         | What's not factored in is the time spent working on this. I
         | don't feel too bad about it, as working on this essentially
         | replaced watching shows or movie at night when everyone is
         | asleep.
        
       | scosman wrote:
       | This is brilliant. Great design and great work. I love that the
       | cartridges actually hold the content and aren't just NFC tags.
       | 
       | For lazy parents like myself: check out a Yoto player. It's web-
       | connected, has limited internal storage, and the cards are just
       | NFC cards -- but it is easy.
        
         | mc3301 wrote:
         | Bonus: The yoto a nice 'normal' bluetooth speaker, as well.
        
         | turtlebits wrote:
         | Actual cartridges makes sense if there are other players,
         | otherwise a PCB and SD card seems like a huge waste over a nfc
         | card that costs a few cents.
        
           | badlogic wrote:
           | I'll be building a few of these for the kids in the
           | neighbourhood. I hope they'll start swaping and trading like
           | we did with our Gameboy games.
        
           | scosman wrote:
           | It's just damn cool and worth the $2. Plus more reliable, no
           | syncing, no web-connection. New content is just new content.
           | Not how you'd build it at scale, but that's kinda the point.
        
         | jdhawk wrote:
         | My kids love theirs, and we get tons of comments from other
         | parents since they'll happily listen to stories on them instead
         | of begging for a screen.
         | 
         | They swap cards with their friends, and so long as its on a
         | wifi connection the first time the card is inserted, the local
         | storage is plenty enough to keep the cache there for offline
         | use.
        
         | taco_emoji wrote:
         | We have a Yoto and it's okay, but my complaint is how difficult
         | it is to get custom stuff on there. The "record-your-own" cards
         | are expensive (and often unavailable, like during this past
         | Christmas season), and off-the-shelf NFC cards don't work
         | perfectly (you have to ensure the content is downloaded onto
         | the device before a generic card will work for that title).
        
           | aeroevan wrote:
           | it does take a surprisingly long time for the device to
           | download the content for offline use, but my only real
           | complaint is that I can't self host the server side (it seems
           | to do some ssl certificate pinning or something similar).
        
       | userbinator wrote:
       | This device reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HitClips
       | (also worth reading: https://hackaday.com/2022/01/10/hitclips-
       | custom-cartridge-ha... )
       | 
       | It's unfortunate that "always offline" needs to be added, as that
       | would be the norm 15-20 years ago when portable media players
       | were at the peak of their popularity. You can still buy
       | SD/TF/microSD players at a very, very low price today.
        
       | theamk wrote:
       | For people who are thinking about getting into electronics: that
       | project is very complex for what it does. Nothing wrong with it
       | as long as your goal is to learn advanced fabrication techniques,
       | but most people don't need any of this stuff for one-off, home
       | projects with no strict low price / small size requirements.
       | 
       | The main culprit is that "custom ESP32-S3 board" - in this
       | application, it is equivalent to a combination of a random off-
       | the-shelf ESP32 board and a separate battery charger/protector.
       | Half of the equipment on the list (hot air, hot plate,
       | microscope, logic analyzer, etc...) is only needed for this
       | board.
       | 
       | Weirdly enough, the rest of the device is a solid design,
       | suitable for someone with "a few months" of electronic
       | experience: lots of pre-made modules, and designing a carrier PCB
       | for them. This means large and easy to solder 2.54mm hole
       | spacing, regular soldering iron, no microscope, etc.. It's a
       | really weird contrast for me....
        
         | nine_k wrote:
         | I suppose this project served as a source of joy not only to
         | the kid, but to the maker, too. It likely was a good excuse to
         | do a lot of stuff that's not strictly necessary but is fun to
         | do, and buy a lot of gear that's not strictly necessary but is
         | a pleasure to use. The result is somehow better and more solid
         | due to that, too.
         | 
         | Regarding the solidness of the mechanical design, I have my
         | doubts. The volume know is too small, and too close to the
         | navigation buttons. The speaker grill is too coarse, allowing
         | small items to easily drop inside. The cartridge attachment is
         | not sturdy, not self-adjusting, and relatively easy to snap
         | off. If anything, I would rework the mechanical part. (Alas, my
         | kids are too old now.)
        
         | jtwaleson wrote:
         | Agreed, and it seems to stem from the NiMH requirement. Maybe
         | designing a protective shell around a LiPO battery (to avoid
         | puncture damage) would have made more sense?
         | 
         | Pretty impressive work though! I think you must have learned a
         | lot. I've spent quite some time on about 5 different projects
         | that were way less polished, but it seems we have picked up the
         | same level of skills along the way. The post is very
         | recognizable ;) Looking forward to the your project!
        
           | alnwlsn wrote:
           | I can understand not wanting to puncture a pouch style
           | lithium-ion cell (what most people call LiPo), but then why
           | not go for an 18650 or 14500 battery? Same lithium ion
           | chemistry packaged into a more traditional and durable metal
           | can.
           | 
           | Although if I wasn't too confident and wanted to avoid the
           | fires of lithium ion I'd probably gone for NiMH too.
           | 
           | But then the decision to put both charger types on the board
           | when only one will ever be used? Strange, but you can't let
           | indecision paralysis get to you I guess.
        
             | badlogic wrote:
             | As I understood, 18650 and 14500 don't like water too much.
             | Our 3yo will find ways to spill water onto and into it.
             | 
             | As for the dip: I designed the board to be multi-purpose,
             | including new projects down the line, where I might need
             | LiPo energy density. I think I mentioned that in the blog
             | post.
        
         | badlogic wrote:
         | This surely could be recreated with off-the-shelf components,
         | no question. It would be a bit of a challenge to stuff another
         | breakout board into the available space, but certainly doable.
         | 
         | But there's a reason for doing the custom board. As my projects
         | get smaller in size, I need to get away from breakout boards.
         | This project was a good fit to come up with sub circuits for
         | different tasks that I can just copy and paste onto a new
         | design, say for a little gaming handheld, or a micro RC car
         | with a much thinner/smaller form factor.
         | 
         | What might be overkill for the current project might be the
         | enabler for the next project. And it let's me iteratively learn
         | new skills.
         | 
         | That said, I might do another version of this with off the
         | shelf parts only for easier reproducibility.
        
           | avinassh wrote:
           | > This surely could be recreated with off-the-shelf
           | components, no question.
           | 
           | I would love to know how does one go about doing this with
           | off-the-shelf components. Can you share more, please
        
             | badlogic wrote:
             | Replace any custom PCB with off the shelf breakout boards.
             | Redesign the enclosure so the breakout boards can be
             | mounted. Instead of a custom motherboard PCB, solder wires
             | between the pins of each breakout board, sprinkling through
             | hole resistors and capacitors around where needed.
             | 
             | Since I didn't go down that route, I don't jave any
             | recommendations for breakout boards that could do the job.
             | I'm also not sure if the assembly is any easier than the
             | assembly of my design.
        
         | oniony wrote:
         | The weirdest decision, for me, was putting the music on the
         | cartridges, so that each cartridge needs an SD card holder and
         | SD card.
         | 
         | I would imagine putting all the music on the device and just
         | giving each cartridge an address would have been considerably
         | cheaper and easier. This could have been electrically,
         | connecting different pins of the existing battery holder
         | solution; mechanically, such that each cartridge has a key
         | shape that depresses different microswitches in the device;
         | magnetically, using magnets on the cartridges; or optically,
         | using different pattern holes on the cartridges and leds with
         | optical sensors on the device.
         | 
         | I think, personally, I would have gone the mechanical route and
         | just have an array of switches in the device. Then the
         | cartridges can be simple plastic keys and the device can draw
         | no power when there's no cartridge.
         | 
         | I think the Fischer Price record player worked this way:
         | https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fisher-Price-Interactive-
         | Packaging-.... The tracks on the record form a binary number
         | and the record player head has mechanical switches.
        
           | buran77 wrote:
           | A couple of years ago, inspired bu the Tonie box, I built a
           | similar yet much simpler device for a toddler in my family
           | but without such a lofty goal of the learning experience.
           | 
           | I wanted to retain the same "always offline" and "physical"
           | aspects of the experience. I used NFC labels hidden under the
           | cover art label on old (edit: not SD) CF cards because I had
           | a bunch of old ones around and they were all standard size
           | and not easy to swallow. An internal microSD that held all
           | the files needed. Plugging the cartridge in the fake socket
           | which was actually just a hidden power on switch would
           | trigger the playing of a specific file. It's a tad more
           | maintenance heavy but much quicker to pull of.
        
             | asyx wrote:
             | That's essentially what Tonie boxes do. They have internal
             | storage and NFC stickers on the figurines. The box is then
             | caching on the SD card and playing from their based on the
             | ID on the NFC chip. If you take the box offline, it can
             | still play the stuff on the box because of that.
        
               | buran77 wrote:
               | With the very big difference that in my case it never
               | needs to (or can, really) be connected to a network and
               | someone else's service [0]. Only to the "parents'
               | service", which was a more convoluted experience for
               | them. They had to manually transfer the file to the
               | internal memory, link it to the NFC label, and print an
               | appropriate cover art label.
               | 
               | It was also interesting to see that when all the kids
               | were gathering around with their toys they were all
               | gravitating towards the one none of them had. But that
               | was an unintended side effect.
               | 
               | [0] When I first heard of Tonies my mind jumped at the
               | idea that the content is stored on the figurine and
               | somehow wirelessly transmitted to the box. The child,
               | parent, and engineer inside me were all thoroughly
               | disappointed this is not the case, and even more so at
               | the perspective of the service being stopped one day or
               | who knows, monetized more aggressively.
        
               | mattkrause wrote:
               | We have a Yoto player, which works ina similarly (NFC
               | chip as a "pointer into their web service, content cached
               | on the device). I was pleasantly surprised to see that
               | they promise that it'll will work for at least five years
               | after they stop selling the current version.
        
               | buran77 wrote:
               | > I was pleasantly surprised to see that they promise
               | that it'll will work for at least five years after they
               | stop selling the current version.
               | 
               | That disclaimer makes me even more uneasy. It implicitly
               | says the toy might stop working after. You bought a toy,
               | you didn't rent it or buy toy-as-a-service. There's no
               | reason the device shouldn't work forever or for as long
               | as it's in good enough condition to operate. And there's
               | no reason you shouldn't own the content on that toy or be
               | free to supply your own forever.
               | 
               | If you buy an audio cassette and a player they work until
               | they fall apart. Here you need to rely on the goodwill of
               | the seller to allow you to keep using them as long as
               | they don't compete with their newer product too much.
               | 
               | I strongly believe that the better option for anyone who
               | can opt for it is something that relies on no online
               | components even if it's more elbow grease for the
               | parents.
        
               | cyberpunk wrote:
               | There is one advantage of this though, via the tonie app
               | you can change to separate episodes from the same series
               | without buying additional figures. I'm a network security
               | guy, somehow, and I'm sort of OK with the tonie box.
               | Alexa etc, no way, but it seems not entirely bad.
        
           | badlogic wrote:
           | I actually went with a design like you proposed in the first
           | iteration. It turned out to be more time consuming than the
           | SD card solution, specifically for my non technical SO. Now,
           | she just stuffs an SD card into her laptop, transfers files,
           | puts the card into a prepared cartridge, and sticks a label
           | on it. The cartridges can be ordered fully assembled, so she
           | doesn't have to solder anything.
           | 
           | With a fully mechanical solution, she would still have to
           | extract the SD card from the player (or I spend considerable
           | more effort on the software side, so the device can somehow
           | also act as a mass storage device when connected via USB,
           | givng access to the internal SD card), print or construct the
           | "key", stuff the key into a cartridge and label the
           | cartridge.
           | 
           | There's no great practical difference. The only difference is
           | a higher per cartridge cost. Since that's around EUR2.50 and
           | could be further reduced by bulk orders, I was fine with this
           | design decision.
        
             | bethekidyouwant wrote:
             | The ESP 32 has Wi-Fi. You can just connect to it and upload
             | the next track.
        
               | cyberpunk wrote:
               | So your easier solution is adding an entire network
               | stack, getting it to connect to your wifi, adding a
               | server and client component?
               | 
               | Duuuuude. What?
        
         | addandsubtract wrote:
         | > For people who are thinking about getting into electronics:
         | that project is very complex for what it does.
         | 
         | For people who want to get into electronics, I can recommend
         | getting started with an LED strip, an ESP32 and WLED. You can
         | dip your toes into soldiering, and using an ESP32, for very
         | cheap and with a large margin of error.
        
       | broken_broken_ wrote:
       | Fantastic article! But when I read "inspired by the Gameboy form
       | factor", I thought the cartridge would insert much deeper, like a
       | Gameboy (maybe not all the way so that the picture on the
       | cartridge is still visible) . That way it cannot be accidentally
       | yanked out. It's probably a dust trap but it's more robust and
       | compact.
        
       | sandreas wrote:
       | Great post, thank you.
       | 
       | I had a similar experience a while ago and believe me that
       | building such a thing is a SERIOUS investment in time -
       | especially as a parent. While admiring the effort and the result,
       | I can't recommend anyone to go for such a self-made device, if it
       | is not for the learning experience and the fun of the project.
       | 
       | I've built a "Phoniebox"[1] and a "Tonuino"[2] and both were used
       | pretty heavily by my kids. The biggest issue I experienced is the
       | "creation" of media. While this should be an easy task, it just
       | takes it's time. Creating the cartridge, printing the image,
       | copying the file, etc...
       | 
       | As my daughter was getting older (>4) it was so much easier to
       | just buy a CD Player and used CDs. In the meantime we use an old
       | Smartphone (offline) as spare device with Audiobookshelf to sync
       | the media locally and VLC Media Player to play them.
       | 
       | 1: https://github.com/MiczFlor/RPi-Jukebox-RFID
       | 
       | 2: https://github.com/tonuino/TonUINO-TNG
        
         | nvahalik wrote:
         | With my kids, I just burned them CDs and bought them $15 CD
         | players. They use them a lot. This gives my wife and I ultimate
         | control over what they play--plus we find CDs at estate sales
         | that allow them to build a collection ~$1 at a time.
        
       | gvalkov wrote:
       | I recently built something[1] similar, though with far less
       | effort and sophistication than the author. The goal was to have a
       | plug-and-play audiobook player for an elderly family member with
       | impaired vision. In retrospect, it would have been better to
       | adapt an old phone or tablet with a macropad rather than build
       | this on top of an espmuse speaker[2].
       | 
       | I keep thinking that a cassette player would be the ideal
       | interface for something like this. The controls are as obvious
       | and as tactile as it gets and the whole analog-mechanical
       | experience is familiar to folks from that generation. If only
       | tapes could hold more than two hours of audio ...
       | 
       | [1]: https://www.printables.com/model/1269288-audiobook-player
       | 
       | [2]: https://raspiaudio.com/product/esp-muse-luxe/
        
         | Dyac wrote:
         | Could something like [1] work? My understanding is it's a "fake
         | tape" that has an SD slot and can be used in any player.
         | 
         | [1] https://www.amazon.com/Funnytoday365-Telecontrol-Cassette-
         | Pl...
        
         | sriacha wrote:
         | Any tips for setting up a smartphone with a macropad as
         | mentioned? I like this idea but worry it introduces a lot of
         | complexity for the non-smartphone literate population.
         | 
         | Regarding the cassette player, in the US the 'National Library
         | Service for the Blind and Print Disabled' has a player with an
         | excellent simple interface, using cartridges for each book:
         | https://blog.library.in.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/isl-t...
        
         | abdullahkhalids wrote:
         | A standard cassette has two hours in it. You can always make
         | larger cassette's yourself.
        
       | mongol wrote:
       | > It's his daily driver, be it at the breakfast table or when
       | going for stroll in his buggy.
       | 
       | This sounds so strange to me, but then I am not a native English
       | speaker.
        
         | sigmaisaletter wrote:
         | "daily driver" originally used to mean "car to use every day",
         | as opposed to "fun car for the weekend". Its meaning then
         | broadened to mean anything which is the most-used example. Here
         | it just means "my kid uses it every day".
        
       | ololobus wrote:
       | I was wondering how cartridges are designed and I think it's a
       | very simple and elegant design -- just wire the standard microSD
       | card. Otherwise, I love such cozy projects. Even if they are not
       | that efficient, they solve the problem and bring joy into
       | someone's life, both author's and a small user (in this case).
        
       | chaosprint wrote:
       | this is very cool
       | 
       | i am also working with esp32 s3 but only write rust code
       | 
       | https://youtu.be/y2Hi9ThKcy8?si=yV8onefVb9o7MdHC
       | 
       | My goal is to send midi wirelessly.
       | 
       | I'm curious why you chose the ESP32? Because if you're working
       | offline, the cost for its most well-known features - BLE and WiFi
       | - would be unnecessary.
        
         | zild3d wrote:
         | Not op but I would also just use an ESP32 since they're super
         | cheap, I already know how to work with them, and there's a pile
         | of em in the drawer.
         | 
         | If producing multiple, yeah esp32 is overkill, but when cost is
         | <$5 wouldn't be worth the time to make the project harder to
         | get started
        
         | badlogic wrote:
         | I have about 25 laying around idle. And I wrote a little C
         | framework around ESP-IDF, which simplifies the software part. I
         | was also sure the ESP32 can decode MP3s in real-time without a
         | problem.
        
       | HenryBemis wrote:
       | Definitely NOT going to build that. I haven't touched a soldering
       | iron in 30-35 years, and don't plan to do so again. Perhaps after
       | retirement (and with some massive magnifying lens) I was thinking
       | to buy and make some cool 'ready-to-built-kits' with silly stuff
       | I don't really _need_.
       | 
       | But I do miss those days that I would blow a fuse because I made
       | a mistake in the soldering.. heh.. good/fun days!
        
       | icoder wrote:
       | Cool! I'm working on something comparable, but with the audio
       | stored on a single SD and playback triggered using an RFID tag
       | that we can than stick on wooden figures made by my GF (or
       | anything 3D printed).
       | 
       | I'm still iterating over hardware, realising Pi Zero is a bit of
       | overkill, using too many NiMH batteries in series may actually
       | break those batteries, that ESP8266 has much less GPIO's
       | available than the module design suggests, among other lessons
       | learned.
       | 
       | My current approach is Pi Pico (ESP32 was the alternative) with a
       | DfPlayer Mini and a 32GB SD card.
       | 
       | The DfPlayer isn't too keen on running on 3v3 from cheaper LDO's
       | (which are on the modules I'm using) so my current approach uses
       | a small power bank. That just offloads the hard part (for me) of
       | battery management to the professionals. This weekend I added a
       | few resistors and a transistor to draw extra power (0.5secs every
       | 20 seconds) to keep the power bank awake.
       | 
       | But I have different LDO's and an ESP32 coming in, so it's not
       | fully decided yet. Will for sure scan this thread and OP's
       | article for more ideas!
        
       | neilv wrote:
       | When 3D-printing toys for young children, are there any safety
       | tips to know?
       | 
       | (I'm wondering things like material toxicity, microplastics,
       | teething hazards, swallow hazards, fracturing to sharp pieces,
       | rounded corners, etc.)
        
         | badlogic wrote:
         | I used PLA, which is a non toxic bio plastic. ABS is also an
         | option for at-home 3D printing, which is the material used in
         | lego bricks. At his age, he doesn't put anything in his mouth
         | anymore, so swallow hazards were not a concern. That said, the
         | only thing that's small enough for him to swallow are the
         | buttons and the knob, which can not be detached from the device
         | without unscrewing the enclosure. If he is able to do that,
         | nothing is save.
        
           | herbst wrote:
           | Pretty sure the issue with 3d printing materials is that they
           | contain additional materials other than PLA and ABS for
           | proper melting and flowage and those could indeed be an
           | issue.
           | 
           | I have some actually recyclable PLA but even that has no real
           | no toxicity rating.
        
             | badlogic wrote:
             | That's good information, thanks!
        
         | lawn wrote:
         | You should never put anything 3D printed into your mouth,
         | regardless if you swallow it or not, because 3D prints aren't
         | "food safe" and may release small pieces.
         | 
         | Also, some materials are hazardous to print (ABS or resin for
         | example) but fine when they've cooled down.
        
         | herbst wrote:
         | Next to what others have said (pretty sure there are only very
         | few PLAs who are even close to actual non toxic in terms of
         | small traces of helper materials) but there are finishings you
         | can use to make it food save!
         | 
         | I wouldn't eat from it, but it works and would pretty much
         | solve any issues.
         | 
         | Pretty sure those finishing resins are marketing to finish
         | Beton and stuff like that.
        
       | Ai_Summary wrote:
       | Great idea, so many proprietary and DRM locked solutions exist,
       | all incompatible with each other.
       | 
       | For power wouldn't an internally routed trace on the cartridge
       | function better than the switch on a stick? the gold contact
       | fingers could have been offset so it doesn't power up till fully
       | inserted.
        
         | badlogic wrote:
         | That's an excellent idea that didn't occur to me! If I build a
         | new revision, I'll give that a try.
        
       | neuroelectron wrote:
       | It's amazing what you can accomplish when abusing adhd meds.
        
       | dmd wrote:
       | I had grand plans to build something like this when my kids were
       | small, but ended up building this https://github.com/dmd/nkplay/
       | instead.
       | 
       | It's just a rpi plugged into a standalone numeric keypad, acting
       | as a jukebox. Playlists are numbered.
       | 
       | By the time my kids were about three, they could enter the
       | numbers on their own, and by four they had memorized the
       | playlists so well they didn't look at the printed catalog any
       | more.
        
         | badlogic wrote:
         | I love this idea!
        
         | dukoid wrote:
         | I wonder if one of the Anberinc (or similar) devices with
         | single-purpose software would be an option for people shy of
         | going into hardware...
        
       | fsckboy wrote:
       | > _I also need an IC to convert the I2S signal (currently sent to
       | the MAX98357A) to a headphone output. I haven 't researched
       | options yet. The motherboard will need additional routing to send
       | the I2S signal from the ESP32-S3 to both the MAX98357A and this
       | new IC. Suggestions welcome!_
       | 
       | isn't a headphone just a high impedance speaker? you just grab
       | the same output that goes to the speakers and reroute it through
       | a big resistor to the headphones.
       | 
       | did a little searching, here you go (the extra resistance isn't
       | that great)
       | 
       | https://samtechpro.blogspot.com/2014/03/how-to-use-speaker-o...
       | 
       | i suggest put efforts into stereo for speaker and headphones,
       | more pleasing, and wouldn't stereo set the stage for truer brain
       | development?
        
       | JansjoFromIkea wrote:
       | I really like this, it looks great!
       | 
       | Did you investigate using a MiniDisc player at any point? I could
       | see a minidisc player with some kind of shell and a DIY inline
       | remote working with relatively little. Never actually used one
       | enough to know how much they'd withstand a kid though!
        
       | carpenecopinum wrote:
       | Besides being a great project, this device reminds me a lot of
       | the Technifant (https://technifant.de) which, under the hood, is
       | similarly simple. The "hats" that you put on the Technifant
       | contain a cheap USB thumb drive with the contacts soldered to a
       | magnetic connector. All the audio is stored locally on the hat
       | itself, and you can even add your own MP3 files with a cable
       | provided by the manufacturer.
        
       | sriacha wrote:
       | Does anyone have suggestions for an simple audiobook/music player
       | like this for the elderly and or those mild dementia? It should
       | have large, tactile buttons, simple play/pause interface, volume
       | control (ideally knob), and be able to read from sdcard or usb/
       | 
       | - I've used the Relish 'dementia radio' [1] before. Its a radio
       | with support for reading from usb, but has no memory so useless
       | for audiobooks. Very overpriced.
       | 
       | - The 'National Library Service for the Blind and Print Disabled'
       | has excellent cassette type players [2], but they only take their
       | cartridges. Ideally something this format but supporting usb/sd
       | card
       | 
       | - Another comment [3] here suggests a smartphone with a macropad.
       | this could work. they also built a custom solution.
       | 
       | [1] https://relish-life.com/en-us/products/relish-radio [2]
       | https://blog.library.in.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/isl-t...
       | [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43818639
        
         | juujian wrote:
         | If there is enough material on Spotify, you could grab one of
         | those mini-keyboards with 6 or nine buttons and remap them to
         | play/pause, next, previos, and just leave it on shuffle on one
         | playlist?
        
           | sriacha wrote:
           | I think that might be the easiest, or even one with 3 buttons
           | and volume knob.
        
         | tweetle_beetle wrote:
         | A Yoto player might work. They're designed for children. They
         | have two knobs (with momentary switch) to control everything
         | (and a small on/off button). They're designed to be usable by
         | children who cannot read, primarily through Yoto cards.
         | 
         | These are just NFC type cards with with some kind of DRM. They
         | allow your player to connect to an API, download the audio
         | content (books, music) and store it locally for instant
         | playback whenever the card is inserted.
         | 
         | Normally I hate vendor lock in stuff like this. But
         | surprisingly they also sell "blank" cards. Using the app you
         | can load any audio content "onto" them (same deal - audio is
         | sent to cloud so it can be redownloaded if local storage runs
         | out). These are pretty cheap and can be "wiped" and reused as
         | many times as you want and you can write on them or mark them
         | up. You can even design a specific image to show on screen when
         | your custom card is inserted.
         | 
         | The hardware is good quality too and can survive daily life.
         | 
         | https://yotoplay.com/
        
       | schnable wrote:
       | Any suggestions for someone who wants to get started on a similar
       | but less ambitious project, ideally without any soldering? Ie,
       | more software and breadboard-style wiring.
        
         | stavros wrote:
         | You can get a DFPlayer module:
         | 
         | https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007061184507.html
         | 
         | Connect a speaker, hook it up to an ESP32, then connect some
         | buttons to it so you can select the track to play.
        
       | bigstrat2003 wrote:
       | This is really cool! I don't remotely have the skills to pull
       | this off, so I am in awe of what you achieved here. The
       | explanations were pretty clear even for someone such as myself,
       | but I was confused by one thing. If the device is powered by NiMH
       | AAA batteries, why include the charging circuit, rather than just
       | removing the batteries when needed to put into a dedicated
       | charger?
        
         | badlogic wrote:
         | Because this way, I (or my SO) doesn't have to unscrew the
         | enclosure to get at the batteries. Usually, the batteries die,
         | while the boy is in the middle of an audiobook. This way, we
         | simply plug in a USB-C cable and everything keeps going.
        
           | bigstrat2003 wrote:
           | That makes sense, thanks for the clarification!
        
       | bufferoverflow wrote:
       | Could be simplified a lot by making SD cards as cartridges.
        
         | turblety wrote:
         | I think the beauty of this is that it's big and clunky. An SD
         | card takes quite coordinated motor skills to insert, can be
         | quite flimsy and has to be inserted with an exact fit.
        
           | delfinom wrote:
           | I think the real answer isn't motor skills.a 3 year old may
           | eat a sd card.
           | 
           | Lol
        
       | thih9 wrote:
       | Always offline is an underrated feature.
       | 
       | Eg. my kindle is always offline, has been working great for the
       | last 5+ years, I see no ads, upgrade prompts, UX changes, or
       | slowdowns.
        
       | rideontime wrote:
       | When he's older, you should blow his mind by putting DOOM back on
       | it.
        
       | timcobb wrote:
       | This is so cool, thanks so much for sharing this. Wow.
        
       | Dwedit wrote:
       | Your "cartridge" could just as easily be a sheet of paper with a
       | barcode/QR code printed on it.
        
       | bsdice wrote:
       | His wife, chose wisely.
        
       | chromate wrote:
       | I would love to do a project like this, but having toddlers
       | around, how did he find the time to actually do this? These seems
       | like hours and hours of learning and working (which I would
       | love), but one of the things I miss most after having kids is
       | having time for hobbies like this.
        
         | badlogic wrote:
         | Instead of watching Netflix/YouTube/whatever or spending time
         | on social media, I used 1-3 hours every night to learn and
         | create.
        
       | rsync wrote:
       | We needed this device and satisfied that need with a Sony
       | Walkman:
       | 
       | https://electronics.sony.com/audio/walkman-digital-recorders...
       | 
       | Very simple. Shows up as a USB drive and I copy mp3 files to it.
       | 
       | My son likes to listen to audiobooks so we purchase them at the
       | maximum price possible and then download them from bittorrent.
        
       | butlike wrote:
       | This is potentially a sell-able product
        
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