[HN Gopher] "Poetry City": Iowa City, Iowa
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       "Poetry City": Iowa City, Iowa
        
       Author : samclemens
       Score  : 48 points
       Date   : 2025-04-25 06:05 UTC (16 hours ago)
        
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       | _dark_matter_ wrote:
       | I lived in Iowa City for several years while my kids were young.
       | It is an amazing city. Everyone is lovely, the restaurants are
       | great, home of an active local grocer, tons of activities by the
       | university, great schools, low CoL, completely walkable, and
       | nothing was ever more than 5 minutes away (yes, when we moved, I
       | had to reorient myself on what "far away" was). I think my kids
       | were lucky to grow up there!
        
       | yesfitz wrote:
       | Everyone should live in Iowa City at least once in their lives.
       | 
       | I love downtown Iowa City. Absolutely adore it. I've spent a lot
       | of time trying to convince family, friends, and anyone who will
       | listen to move here.
       | 
       | It's everything people say: active, friendly, community-oriented,
       | walkable, safe, smart, rebellious, affordable.
       | 
       | I only recognize 2 claims against it:
       | 
       | 1. It gets cold in Winter. But you learn to live with it. The
       | whole city's living with it too.
       | 
       | 2. Natural beauty is harder to see. There are no mountains or
       | beaches. 99% of Iowa's land is unnatural[1]. But it sure does
       | make you appreciate the smaller-scale natural beauty that is
       | available every day, and especially the grandeur of the
       | traditionally beautiful areas of the country.
       | 
       | 1:https://www.iaenvironment.org/blog/iowa-environmental-voice/...
        
         | throwaway894345 wrote:
         | I'm in Des Moines and have always kept a wide berth from Iowa
         | City because I have always had it strongly associated with the
         | "binge-drinking-and-college-football are my entire personality"
         | crowd; I'm happy to hear there is another side of it and I'd be
         | interested to check it out. Any recommendations for a chill day
         | trip? Favorite cafes or museums or similar?
        
           | aprilthird2021 wrote:
           | It's funny because Iowa City has almost the exact opposite
           | reputation among all professional American poets
        
           | yesfitz wrote:
           | Absolutely! There's no shortage of drinking and football, we
           | are still a college town, but Summer's right around the
           | corner and while the students are (mostly) away, the townies
           | come out to play.
           | 
           | The Iowa City Arts Festival or Jazzfest would be great times
           | to visit.
           | 
           | I'd recommend stopping by Kindred for coffee, and Prairie
           | Lights for the books and ambience. Museum-wise, the Museum of
           | Natural History, the Old Capitol Museum, and the Stanley
           | Museum of Art are all worth your time and free to the public.
           | 
           | Dinner is hard to go wrong, but Trumpet Blossom Cafe is very
           | popular, and Vue is on the 12th story of a hotel has great
           | views of the airport and city, and outdoor seating. I'd also
           | recommend checking out the Iowa City Public Library and the
           | rest of the Pedestrian Mall, and maybe catch a movie at
           | FilmScene in the Chauncey on the next visit.
           | 
           | World of Bikes rents bikes for the day, and the river trail
           | is a pleasant ride between City Park (where you may catch
           | Shakespeare in The Park in the Summer) and Big Grove Brewery,
           | and extends down to Terry Trueblood Recreation Area in the
           | South.
           | 
           | I think the biggest thing that's hard to communicate with a
           | day/weekend trip is how incredibly lovely living here is
           | every day. The hardest part is choosing between all of the
           | activities available.
        
           | throwaway653880 wrote:
           | We don't have a lot in terms of museums, but the Stanley Art
           | museum is really nice and it's completely free:
           | 
           | - https://stanleymuseum.uiowa.edu/
           | 
           | PSOne is smaller but they have a couple of galleries and also
           | have live music sometimes:
           | 
           | - https://www.publicspaceone.com/
           | 
           | We have FilmScene where you can see some Hollywood movies but
           | also rarer and more artsy stuff: - https://icfilmscene.org/
           | 
           | As far as cafes:
           | 
           | - Press Coffee
           | 
           | - Kindred Coffee
           | 
           | - DayDrink
           | 
           | The main reason I've lived here as long as I did is because
           | of the live music, so if you're into that there are lots of
           | great venues (also check out the Mission Creek festival next
           | year):
           | 
           | - The Englert
           | 
           | - The James
           | 
           | - Trumpet Blossom
           | 
           | - Gabe's
           | 
           | - Hancher
           | 
           | I get annoyed by the same crowd you're talking about, but if
           | you come during the summer most of those people are gone and
           | it's the cool people that are left.
           | 
           | I actually don't get to Des Moines very often but have been
           | meaning to, but what kinds of things would you recommend for
           | Des Moines? I've heard the Des Moines Art Center is really
           | good and have been meaning to go.
        
         | teachrdan wrote:
         | > Everyone should live in Iowa City at least once in their
         | lives.
         | 
         | This is trivially disprovable.
         | 
         | The world has a population of ~8,000,000,000 people. Assuming
         | an average life expectancy of 65 years, if everyone lived in
         | Iowa City (pop. 74,828 [0]) for just one day, its population
         | would _increase by 337,197_ , effectively quintupling its
         | population.
         | 
         | It would diminish the city's walkability due to 6,743.9 buses
         | [1] going into the city every day, or almost 4.68 every minute.
         | And because visitors would be around 4x more people from
         | outside Iowa City than from Iowa City itself, the average
         | friendliness, safeness, intelligence and rebelliousness of its
         | residents would all revert toward the global mean. And I'll
         | leave it as an exercise for the reader to extrapolate what
         | would happen to Iowa City's affordability when it has to
         | support all these additional people.
         | 
         | 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_City,_Iowa
         | 
         | 1. https://nationsbus.com/motor-coaches-for-sale/dimensions-
         | and...
        
           | miltonlost wrote:
           | ... did you just take a very common expression in an overly
           | literal way?
           | 
           | You also confused "should" with "could".
        
           | yesfitz wrote:
           | What a fun exercise in obtuseness!
           | 
           | I'll stand by my statement though and challenge the entire
           | population of Earth to live in Iowa City at least once.
           | 
           | The ball's in their court now. Imagine my crushing
           | disappointment when only a few million rise to the challenge.
        
           | breaker-kind wrote:
           | oh no! growth!
        
           | BSOhealth wrote:
           | but FAC at SpoCo would be AWESOME with 500k people. Like how
           | do you even make that many Jello shots?
        
         | iAMkenough wrote:
         | Unless Iowa City can become self-sufficient and stop relying on
         | State and Federal dollars, I believe we're watching the
         | beginning of the end.
         | 
         | The U.S. Department of State notified the University of Iowa
         | International Writing Program on Feb. 26 that its grants
         | through the department's Bureau of Educational and Cultural
         | Affairs were being terminated, stating that the awards "no
         | longer effectuate agency priorities," nor align "with agency
         | priorities and national interest."
         | 
         | Iowa City's property tax growth has also been capped by the
         | State Legislature, at a rate that won't keep up with inflation.
        
           | yesfitz wrote:
           | You've identified some real headwinds that the community is
           | facing, but I think the gubernatorial and mid-term
           | legislative elections will shed more light on the future.
           | 
           | Maybe research and cultural hubs like Iowa City will just
           | need to weather the storm until 2028 or maybe they start
           | making longer term plans for austerity.
           | 
           | The general vibe around town has been an even greater focus
           | on building local community regardless.
        
         | cybadger wrote:
         | I will add a third claim against it: all that black and gold.
         | As an Iowa State grad, there's a certain arrogance that the
         | University of Iowa undergrads give off (grad students and
         | faculty seem to be fine). [For those not from 'round here, U of
         | Iowa and Iowa State are the two largest universities in the
         | state. There's a healthy--and occasionally unhealthy--rivalry.]
         | 
         | That said, I do actually really like the town itself. Like you
         | said, active, friendly, with a real vibrancy to it. I don't get
         | there often (strange, since Cedar Rapids is not that far away),
         | but enjoy it when I'm there.
        
       | billjive wrote:
       | I'm from Iowa City! It's awesome to see this pop up on HN. IC has
       | a number of great older bars like this. Sadly my favorite (The
       | Sanctuary) closed recently and may be lost forever.
        
         | pixl97 wrote:
         | I was from that area as a kid, West Liberty. Been awhile since
         | I've been back up there.
        
         | cartothemax wrote:
         | Iowa City natives raise up! There has got to be less then a
         | dozen of us (on Hacker News)!
        
           | billjive wrote:
           | Any City High grads here? The School That Leads... :)
        
         | JKCalhoun wrote:
         | As it happens, I'm looking at a travel guide to include Iowa
         | City. I had the "Hamburg Inn No. 2" as a food-stop and
         | "Devonian Fossil Gorge" as a tourist-stop.
         | 
         | Am I missing something? (I'll probably head out there for
         | research in May, ha ha.)
        
       | 100k wrote:
       | If song lyrics count, Eleni Mandell's "Iowa City" is the poem
       | that will always stick in my mind about that town.
       | Girls, the boys don't cheat in Iowa City       Iowa City nothing
       | to do       Now they're crisp and they're clean       Iowa City
       | Iowa Iowa       Skies are blue              Not so, Chicago
       | Never, New York       When you're off and you're looking for
       | something       What will you do?       Where will you go?
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_mpBLD6_V0
        
         | JKCalhoun wrote:
         | And I think of "Iowa City Adieu" by Autumn Defense:
         | https://youtu.be/8r55RdA8BZE
        
       | Boogie_Man wrote:
       | Nearby Amana Iowa hosts a yearly Bratwurst festival at which you
       | can learn about the history of an attempt at a utopian society
       | and watch dachshunds race while very very drunk
        
         | quuxly wrote:
         | Why do they get the dachshunds drunk??
        
       | BSOhealth wrote:
       | Iowa City has great aspects. New Pioneer Co-Op: having spent more
       | life afterwards in Boulder, CO, I can safely say IC still holds
       | the prize for ideal progressive food grocery option in the US
       | (admittedly I haven't been to Portland, and imagine they might
       | compete). Prairie Lights is cool and all but I'd rather be at The
       | Strand. Or Goblin Market or Samdmeyer's in Chicago. Or Old Town
       | in Stockholm.
       | 
       | Iowa City starts feeling small VERY quickly. The winters are
       | cold. There are no amazing natural areas for activity. Downtown
       | is getting more sterile every year (circa 20 years ago).
       | 
       | University of Iowa is a great example of a University scene, but
       | if you are not a student or professor, you'll quickly bump up
       | against the guardrails of small town US economics.
        
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