[HN Gopher] EU says it will enforce digital rules irrespective o...
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EU says it will enforce digital rules irrespective of CEO and
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Author : cruzcampo
Score : 24 points
Date : 2025-04-21 19:21 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| mdhb wrote:
| As they should. Now more so than ever. It has become EXTREMELY
| clear that everyone who tried to make themselves small in order
| to not be targets for this new US admin has gotten the worst of
| it. There's no need to add another data point to prove that
| strategy doesn't work, we can already be sure of it.
|
| Enforce your own laws and sovereignty and don't think twice about
| it.
| LinuxBender wrote:
| Small sites will probably move to Tor _.onion domains_.
| immibis wrote:
| If they're not outright illegal, they'll be outcompeted by
| sites that don't require you to install special software to
| visit them. Those sites will have a marginally higher chance
| of being subpoenaed than before. They'll have to tell their
| host who they are (which is already the case for non-onion
| sites) and if they publish Nazi propaganda the police may
| knock on their door.
|
| You know, exactly how it was 25ish years ago before the
| regulated Internet era. We had an internet back then, and
| people were slightly more constrained with what they do on
| it.
|
| Over time, people tested the boundaries of what they could
| get away with, found they could get away with a lot, and then
| got away with a lot. Now we generally agree it's gone too far
| and the boundaries need to be set tighter. This is the cost
| of that.
| LinuxBender wrote:
| A couple of browsers can connect to Tor without installing
| anything extra so maybe as the internet is tightened down
| more browsers will add this ability. To your point though
| it is still slower and people despise latency so the faster
| sites will likely win out.
|
| In terms of legality it is not clear to me that countries
| will enforce the laws of other countries even if they are
| allies. Global trade is changing and I suspect that could
| affect international enforcement as dependencies shift,
| maybe. Time will tell.
| YetAnotherNick wrote:
| One thing that I hate about these rules is the fine. The fines
| over time had been massive over weird and tame cases like
| promoting their store in Google search, but for the more obvious
| cases like misleading consent banner, they have been few and far
| in between. Also the rules are vague and there is no warning.
|
| Not to mention fines create bad incentive for the government.
| Specially if control of fine money is given to the same people
| who are fining the companies.
| bcye wrote:
| Not entirely sure what you're referring to, but it seems to me
| that its DMA/DSA and GDPR for the latter. It is my
| understanding the fines for DMA/DSA were set high with great
| enforcement because of the lessons learned from GDPR
| apatheticonion wrote:
| More rules please.
|
| I'd love to see more competition in the OS space. I feel that a
| big reason there isn't more competition is the gatekeeping of
| drivers by hardware vendors and the locking of bootloaders.
|
| Why can't I install Linux on a Snapdragon laptop? Why can't I
| install OpenWRT on my router? Why can't I install Linux on my
| Pixel? It's certainly not because they are not capable - it's
| just that the vendors don't want you to (for one reason or
| another).
|
| With the liability that is an over-reliance on American core
| software (OS, firmware, etc) - I believe the EU should mandate
| unlocked bootloaders on electronic devices and force vendors to
| either distribute driver sources or provide enough documentation
| for bootleggers to write drivers.
|
| This is simply "the right to repair" extended to the software
| component of hardware.
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