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Show HN: JuryNow - Get an anonymous instant verdict from 12 real
people
After 16 years, I have just launched my game JuryNow. Imagine
having a truly diverse panel of 12 real people of all ages, far
removed from your peer group, around the world who will be able to
give you an instant decision on your question 24/7. No commentary,
just a verdict between two choices. You can ask a moral dilemma, or
a fashion dilemma (you can upload 2 images), you can use JuryNow to
give you an independent perspective on a family argument, or a
workplace problem, or even a trivial thought. You can also ask a
mini political poll and receive global verdict in real time. It's
anonymous, fast (under 3 minutes), and...when there are more than
13 people playing simultaneously, completely AI-free _._ How do
you pay for this priceless fun? With JuryDuty. While you wait 3
minutes for your verdict, You answer other people's questions.
There is no commentary, just a binary choice. You can ask things
like: _"Do I have a moral duty to go to my brother's third
wedding? We have no parents?"_ _"Do you feel guilty when you kill
mosquitoes?"_ _" Should I take away my mother's car keys? She is
84 and had two near misses this month."_ As a 58F, I built JuryNow
because I wanted to create a truly objective place to get outside
opinions that were not from my peer group, but from 12 people in 12
different countries, different ages, professions, cultures, a truly
diverse global objective jury with no algorithms. Would love your
feedback! It's totally free, no sign-up needed for a first play.
https://jurynow.app/ if there are fewer than 13 people playing
(and it only just launched last week and that was just on Reddit!)
then a popup will appear saying your verdict is simulated by AI.
But this is just a TEMPORARY feature with the MVP. As soon as there
are regular players, it will be permanently dismantled and we will
celebrate the power of collective human intelligence!
Author : sarah-brussels
Score : 78 points
Date : 2025-04-20 18:32 UTC (4 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (jurynow.app)
(TXT) w3m dump (jurynow.app)
| 1659447091 wrote:
| First congrats on launching, from personal experience that's the
| hard part.
|
| Are there filters or monitoring for the more violent or
| maleficent types of things that people have a habit of
| gravitating towards? Depending on the number of people online and
| the balance, I could easily see groups jumping on and choosing
| the negative or harmful choice for lolz
| sarah-brussels wrote:
| Hello there! Thanks so much for trying it! Indeed, there is a
| filter to weed out any hate speech, self harm content, there is
| also a feature for jurors to report comments, and there is the
| User Agreement! But indeed, this was a big worry for me and put
| me off trying for a long time!
| af3d wrote:
| Neat concept! Although I was a bit surprised at the AI stand-in's
| finding. I posed the silly argument that "My neighbor's dog
| refuses to speak French" with the options "Neighbor is culpable"
| and "I am clearly an idiot": The final decision was 7/5 in my
| favor! But seriously, this really is a great idea IMO. The jury-
| duty-while-you-wait feature also seems like a fair trade-off.
| sarah-brussels wrote:
| Thanks SO much for trying! Honestly, interacting with real
| people who have tried my game after thinking about it non stop
| for 16 years is truly exciting! Indeed, the AI part is
| necessary (well I don't want to say evil but...) in order to
| show off he game as it will be, and after posting it on Reddit
| last week, it was working like a dream with real live juries
| answering! My dream jury will be age 16 - 99, from every
| continent, every profession and culture...because I do believe
| the more diverse the jury, the better the verdict!
| krisoft wrote:
| > I posed the silly argument that "My neighbor's dog refuses to
| speak French" with the options "Neighbor is culpable" and "I am
| clearly an idiot": The final decision was 7/5 in my favor!
|
| People can be trolling. That is the kind of over the top,
| obviously silly question where I personally might also answer a
| silly answer. And out of those two the "Neighbor is culpable"
| is sillyier and funnier.
| wat10000 wrote:
| I mean, if your neighbor's dog merely cannot speak French,
| that's normal. But if it _refuses_ to, that's just rude.
| p_ing wrote:
| For Jury, I would give a "skip question" option. I found one
| relating to Christianity that I had _no_ idea what the "correct"
| answer would be based on the two options.
|
| I thought clicking "Ask a new question" then going right back
| into Jury Duty would give me a new question, but I landed on the
| same one.
|
| I think the asker providing the two valid responses is flawed. It
| doesn't allow the "jury" to draw their own conclusion, or
| provides leading answers (one about "is it rude" to eat by
| themselves when they're socially exhausted in a work context --
| one is "yes they would be offended", the other "no they won't be"
| -- well, they certainly may be but it is your right to eat alone,
| so the answer could have been "they may, but you need to take
| care of yourself").
| rsyring wrote:
| Agreed. There are some questions with answers, neither of which
| I want to support by selecting.
|
| Might also report skip rate to question asker.
| Nevermark wrote:
| Skipping unanswerable questions would be good for everyone. Any
| answer would be misleading.
|
| But answer choices should not be qualified by anything, because
| that systematically creates unanswerable regions.
|
| There should be Context and Question, narrowed down any way the
| questioner wants. Then just "Yes" or "No" without
| qualification.
|
| That is what a jury does.
|
| Or: allow answer qualifications, followed by an automatic "None
| of the above".
|
| Anyone getting a lot of the latter is getting accurate feedback
| that the choices they posted were too narrow.
|
| Without either fix, the basic logic of the utility will often
| be broken. Maybe both? Allow questions to be yes/no, or n
| choices with NOTA.
| ensignavenger wrote:
| Even one of the poster's sample question, the one about the
| brothers third wedding, is one I would not want to answer
| with a simple yes/no.
| James_K wrote:
| It just gets stuck on the same question with badly formatted
| boxes and does nothing if I click either of them.
| panarky wrote:
| Same here.
|
| And when asking a question, it just keeps telling me to
| "moderate the question".
|
| My question isn't profane or controversial, so I don't
| understand what I'm being asked to do.
| bb88 wrote:
| The big problem is kinda the same as what happens in push polls
| -- in that they ask misleading or suggestive questions trying to
| boil the issue down to a good and bad answer.
|
| The reality for many of these questions is pretty complex.
|
| I'm not saying it's not worthwhile, but I'm saying forcing users
| to choose on some topics aren't black and white.
|
| It's maybe worthwhile getting information on things like people
| who aren't knowledgeable, people who don't care or have no
| preference, or people who don't want to answer because the
| answers are skewed towards one side.
| exsomet wrote:
| I think you're correct in that lots of things aren't black and
| white, but the reverse is also true. Lots of arguments end up
| being over-litigated when a black and white answer (even if
| imperfect) will suffice.
|
| As with most things like this, you get out what you put in. Ask
| a biased question, and get a biased answer. At some point, the
| responsibility has to lie with the user that if they want
| something like this to be interesting and unbiased, they need
| to think about ways to use it to accomplish that.
| kylecazar wrote:
| The first question I received had two options that were
| essentially the same decision worded differently.
| krisoft wrote:
| I love the concept. One tiny recommendation: on my phone the page
| both for voting and to see the voting result requires me to
| scroll. When content wise it could very easily fit within a
| single screen what is being displayed.
|
| That is mostly a problem with the results page where i wanted to
| make a screenshot to show it off to my friends but couldn't.
| krisoft wrote:
| Also, i see repeated questions? As in i see one question. I
| vote, the "bar" moves forward, but i see the same question, so
| i vote again and the same happens.
|
| So whoever was picking up skateboarding again in their 30s, but
| just suffered a hip injury after a fall. I voted that it is
| time for you to give up like four times. (Which i stand by as
| an opinion, but perhaps I shouldn't be so overrepresented in
| your jury?)
| sarah-brussels wrote:
| so sorry about that! there was a bug 3 months ago (when i was
| just testing it with family and friends) when that happened,
| and one random question would repeat! And it's just come back
| tongiht!! (just as I post on hacker news!) i think it's fixed
| now! And thank you again!
| sarah-brussels wrote:
| THank you for this! That's really useful to hear. As you can
| see it's a very basic MVP for the moment, but I hope that when
| there are many more regular users and we can expand it, that
| the mobile app will be better and more user friendly! But thank
| you for playing!
| mbil wrote:
| Nice idea! I think it would be useful if the jury members could
| provide context on their decision as well as see the other
| jurors' responses.
| seb1204 wrote:
| Congratulations on the launch.
|
| I had two huge yes/no boxes that I thought where missing an
| image. So I reloaded and lost my question.
| redeux wrote:
| I would definitely like a skip question button for jury duty. I
| also think it's allowing me to vote multiple times on a single
| question, potentially when the queue is empty.
| tdrz wrote:
| Congrats on the launch! Very nice idea! Looking forward when more
| people are playing so I get answers from real people. While I was
| waiting, I had to answer the same question multiple times. Is
| this by design?
| titaphraz wrote:
| Brilliant idea. To make it more accurate:
|
| - Don't force people to participate in jury duty when waiting for
| jury answer. Many of them will just click random answers.
|
| - Provide "I don't know/Skip" as an answer. Otherwise the options
| are "Pick a random" and "Logout"
|
| - Allow jury to write text feedback or at least give them a
| button saying "All provided answers are wrong / NA / Fallacy /
| ... "
|
| - "your verdict is simulated by AI" if there aren't enough people
| logged in. Don't do that. I have no interested in that answer.
| konaraddi wrote:
| Cool idea and execution! The use of AI unless there are
| sufficient humans is a clever way to beat the chicken and egg
| problem
| jtchang wrote:
| I love it. Could definitely see more features where you can see
| the results of the jury questions.
| lllars wrote:
| ^ this. It gets boring pretty fast being a juror, but it would
| be a lot more compelling if you could see the verdict.
| Retr0id wrote:
| It would be nice to be able to see the final results of questions
| I voted on
| LightHugger wrote:
| I asked a question that was 4-0, then suddenly 8 votes came in at
| once that made the score 4-8, i wonder if that was a UI bug or if
| the 8 votes were the AI kicking in and they all disagreed with
| the human answer...
| mcherm wrote:
| I'm using Firefox on Android. For me, it showed a question and
| two answers, but all attempts to select an answer failed.
| drekipus wrote:
| Same, chrome on Android as well
| xivzgrev wrote:
| I'm using Chrome on macbook and had same experience
| delichon wrote:
| Look, this is good entertainment, you should own up to that and
| enough with the noble purpose stuff:
|
| > I built JuryNow because I wanted to create a truly objective
| place to get outside opinions that were not from my peer group,
| but from 12 people in 12 different countries, different ages,
| professions, cultures, a truly diverse global objective jury with
| no algorithms.
|
| You don't collect demographics, and couldn't verify them anyway,
| so this game doesn't give insight into those dynamics. And the
| result is not more objective than a social media consensus.
|
| That doesn't mean it isn't fun and even maybe useful in
| collecting one's thoughts, so go with that.
| jowea wrote:
| Yeah this sounds like making a webgame out of /r/AITA
| speef wrote:
| Always (3/3 times, anyway) hangs when it's time to return
| results. Sometimes hangs during jury questions.
|
| Seems like a fun idea, if it worked at all?
| speef wrote:
| Always (3/3 times, anyway) hangs when it's time to return
| results. Sometimes (1/4 runs) hangs during jury questions. Brave
| on Android.
|
| Seems like a fun idea, if it worked.
| satisfice wrote:
| The premise of this app is undermined by the oversimplified
| implementation.
|
| Truly diverse panel? You have no idea what the diversity is. Far
| removed from your peer group? You have no idea. "Just a verdict"?
| Jury duty is not a duty to pronounce judgement. It's a duty
| deliberate on evidence. There's no evidence, here, and no
| deliberation.
|
| This is no celebration of collective human intelligence. This is
| silly and cynical.
| grapesodaaaaa wrote:
| I asked " Toddlers should be allowed to be licensed to operate a
| motor vehicle." with yes/no answers.
|
| It errors out with " Please moderate the content of your question
| before submitting it."
| xivzgrev wrote:
| Fun idea, grabbed my attention right away.
|
| As a follow up, I'd guide people on asking questions. More
| context = better answers.
|
| For example, I joined a jury. The question was "Should I go to
| Belarus?" That's so vague, it doesn't even feel helpful for me to
| answer. I would much rather the question have said something like
| "I've always wanted to go to Belarus, but my rent is also due in
| a week. I only have enough money for one. Where should I spend my
| money?"
|
| That at least gives me something to work with and weigh in on.
| lesser-shadow wrote:
| Yawn, I can't get past the filter. Boring. _Please moderate the
| content of your question before submitting it_ Apparently
| "Furry" is enough to set it off.
| VoidWhisperer wrote:
| It appears to have either been hugged to death or something broke
| on the backend - jury duty now just returns the same question
| about whether or not it is ethical for a startup to sell an ai as
| a physiologist.
| juped wrote:
| Do your jury duty, stop demanding a "skip" button. Think for half
| a second about what the consequences of that would be.
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