[HN Gopher] Inside ArXiv
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       Inside ArXiv
        
       Author : fprog
       Score  : 70 points
       Date   : 2025-04-19 18:42 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | mitchbob wrote:
       | https://archive.ph/2025.03.27-115038/https://www.wired.com/s...
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       | http://web.archive.org/web/20250419005938/https://www.wired....
        
       | westurner wrote:
       | ArXiv: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArXiv
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       | ArXiv accepts .ps (PostScript), .tex (LaTeX source), and .pdf
       | (PDF) ScholarlyArticle uploads.
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       | ArXiv docs > Formats for text of submission:
       | https://info.arxiv.org/help/submit/index.html#formats-for-te...
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       | The internet and the web are the most transformative platforms in
       | all of science, though.
        
       | elashri wrote:
       | > I learned Fortran in the 1960s, and real programmers didn't
       | document
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       | I have a reason to believe that this is not the first time I
       | heard this argument coming from a boomer physicist.
        
       | Y_Y wrote:
       | ArXiv has been on a PR blitz lately. Enshittification incoming.
       | At least they lasted longer than GitHub.
        
         | MinimalAction wrote:
         | arXiv has nothing to gain by a PR blitz. Any academic knows
         | what is arXiv exactly for, and there is no intention to grow
         | user base or whatever. It's not a social media.
        
           | fogof wrote:
           | Not sure I agree with the comment you're responding to. But
           | the article discusses some of their funding troubles, and the
           | main mage of arxiv.org itself has a donate link. So I think
           | perhaps the media presence might be motivated by a desire to
           | fundraise (and IMO they absolutely deserve funding because of
           | the important work they do).
        
             | MinimalAction wrote:
             | You're right. I didn't consider the funding angle at all,
             | but only the accusation of "enshittification" which usually
             | comes from a VC or an entity that wants to generate more
             | profits by expanding. On the other hand, I do think Simons
             | Foundations would not let arXiv die. Also, I don't agree
             | that arXiv's media presence has ulterior motives after all.
             | It might just be that it's getting its share of fame.
        
         | maxbond wrote:
         | We're in a political climate where scientific institutions are
         | under threat, so of course they will loudly justify their own
         | existence and value. It'd be irresponsible of them not to.
         | That's not all that similar to a company being acquired and
         | subsequently squeezed for value. ArXiv isn't a loss leader for
         | a venture backed firm.
        
       | behnamoh wrote:
       | arXiv has one of my papers on hold for a long time because their
       | team couldn't believe I--someone without a CS degree--was able to
       | create a programming language from scratch on my own.
        
       | sundarurfriend wrote:
       | The article has a melancholic tone running through it, felt
       | especially keenly when you consider it a microcosm of the much
       | wider struggles of maintaining a public good: sustaining it while
       | keeping its integrity.
       | 
       | When your service is small or not easily visible - while still
       | doing significant good - it's hard to find enough people willing
       | to spend their time and resources helping you sustain it.
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       | When your service becomes big enough to be noticeable - which is
       | the arXiv is in by now - it also becomes attractive to the people
       | looking to subvert it to be something else, to enshittify it, and
       | so the limiting factor in getting help becomes the risk to its
       | integrity.
        
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