[HN Gopher] The Wisconsin cartographer who mapped Tolkien's fant...
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       The Wisconsin cartographer who mapped Tolkien's fantasy world
        
       Author : bookofjoe
       Score  : 96 points
       Date   : 2025-04-11 17:26 UTC (3 days ago)
        
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       | davidjhall wrote:
       | A wonderful atlas -- my favorite are her trail maps where she
       | depicts a character's daily journey in the book.
       | 
       | The article (almost) footnotes her other work which was equally
       | impressive:
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       | * She also created atlases for the worlds of fantasy authors Anne
       | McCaffrey, creator of the "Dragonriders of Pern" series, and
       | Stephen R. Donaldson, who wrote "The Chronicles of Thomas
       | Covenant" series.
        
       | jfengel wrote:
       | Atlas of Middle-earth is a truly monumental feat.
       | 
       | I think the article writer misses how much of it is really about
       | The Silmarillion, rather than about Lord of the Rings. Tolkien
       | put a lot of work into First Age geography, an entire
       | (interminable, excruciating) chapter of The Silmarillion. Very
       | little of it would be familiar to viewers of the films, and a lot
       | of it opaque even to readers just of LotR.
        
         | rimunroe wrote:
         | > an entire (interminable, excruciating) chapter of The
         | Silmarillion
         | 
         | I've read _The Silmarillion_ easily more than 20 times and I
         | swear _Of Beleriand and its Realms_ gets longer every time I
         | read it.
        
           | jfengel wrote:
           | I just wish it had been relegated to an appendix. A lot of
           | people drop Silmarillion there, but you can just skip it and
           | get on to much better material.
           | 
           | It could be replaced on first read with a decent map. Or even
           | a mediocre map. Or nothing; you just don't need it.
        
             | thaumasiotes wrote:
             | > I just wish it had been relegated to an appendix.
             | 
             | It was; it wasn't even published.
        
             | bombcar wrote:
             | Most of the Silmarillion can be read out of order, if you
             | want. That should have been made more clear to the "casual"
             | reader (as if casual readers pick it up!).
        
         | thordenmark wrote:
         | I have The Silmarillion on Audible and use the chapter Of
         | Beleriand and its Realms when I'm having trouble going to
         | sleep.
        
       | gainda wrote:
       | One of my biggest takeaways from the first time I saw her work
       | was that Beleriand was actually situated to the west of Middle
       | Earth prior to sinking. I had seen far too many erroneous maps
       | placing it north of Middle Earth
       | (https://static0.gamerantimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uplo...)
        
         | mryijum wrote:
         | The infamous lung map! David Day must've introduced so many
         | people to the various interesting aspects of Tolkien's world
         | but there's so much fanfiction mixed into his works. Though in
         | the case of the map it's not really fanfiction, it's just
         | wrong.
        
       | foldr wrote:
       | _The Journeys of Frodo_ is also worth a look if you like this
       | kind of thing. The author isn't a professional cartographer and
       | it's more focused on LOTR locations than general world building.
       | Anyway, I was completely captivated by it as a child when I
       | stumbled across it in my high school's library.
       | 
       | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journeys_of_Frodo
        
         | bombcar wrote:
         | In a similar vein, if interested in that type of thing, is
         | _Flora of Middle-Earth: Plants of J.R.R. Tolkien 's
         | Legendarium_.
        
       | duxup wrote:
       | What a wonderful thing to do.
       | 
       | Map making is such an amazing skill.
        
       | krupan wrote:
       | Do I love maps because of the fantasy books I read as a kid? Did
       | I love (and still love) the fantasy books because I love maps? I
       | may never know.
       | 
       | I've heard of the Atlas of Middle Earth but never knew this
       | amazing story behind it. Thanks for posting it, bookofjoe!
       | 
       | Also, really cool to know she did D&D maps too. Maps are just rad
        
         | bombcar wrote:
         | I love that she could build so much of the world from the
         | geographic descriptions, of things like mountains and rivers.
        
       | nelblu wrote:
       | Every time I read a chapter from LOTR and then hike with my dog,
       | I imagine myself being Frodo and my dog being Samwise, and I find
       | myself talking to the dog, sometimes yelling at him - hey don't
       | go there, there might be Orcs there or maybe Dark Riders were
       | here etc. Of course my dog doesn't care, but I love this silly
       | monologue with him.
       | 
       | Just ordered this book and can't wait to start reading LOTR
       | again!
        
       | aegirth wrote:
       | Karen also did the Atlas of Krynn, the world of the Dragonlance
       | Saga. I still have my copy. Wonderful illustrations and maps.
        
       | zem wrote:
       | I love fantasy in general, and have read a ton of it. other than
       | tolkien, I have never read a novel with that strong a sense of
       | geography in a constructed world - specifically, that there is an
       | entire rich land out there, and not just a graph of interesting
       | places with the focus shifting from one point to another. when
       | the hobbits have to go from the shire to rivendell, or aragorn
       | has to take the paths of the dead to reach his destination in
       | time, tolkien really manages to convey the experience of a
       | difficult journey that takes a significant amount of time even
       | when nothing plot-significant is happening along the way.
        
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