[HN Gopher] Busy Bar
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       Busy Bar
        
       Author : jbernardo95
       Score  : 226 points
       Date   : 2025-04-10 13:23 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
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       | duxup wrote:
       | That's pretty neat, although $250 feels like a lot for that at
       | first glance. I get it has a lot of features but it's hard to get
       | past the "it's a $250 busy indicator".
       | 
       | Not that I'd spend $250, but even something like that sold more
       | as an open device to be used for a lot of different things
       | changes (for the better) the value proposition in my mind a
       | little than just sold as a busy sign with lots of integrations.
       | Granted ... this appears to be that too. That's more a of a
       | commentary on perception.
        
         | Chris2048 wrote:
         | It does have multiple uses - it communicates both your busy
         | status, _and_ your excess of disposable income.
        
         | delichon wrote:
         | I'd pay for a cheaper app version of this that I could run on
         | an old no-SIM phone.
        
           | derefr wrote:
           | As the page points out (top-right corner), this thing is the
           | physical accessory to an existing phone app:
           | https://busy.app/
           | 
           | Though, mind you, said app doesn't perform exactly the same
           | function as the bar itself; "Busy App" seems to be more of a
           | distraction-blocking pomodoro timer for your own phone,
           | rather than a digital "busy sign" for you to point at the
           | rest of the room.
           | 
           | IMHO, presuming a desk implies a PC (or laptop dock) with at
           | least one spare USB port -- the simplest thing here wouldn't
           | even be an old phone; it'd just be a red USB light (think a
           | red siren, but without the moving/flashing) that you could
           | set on top of your desk/monitor/cubicle wall, and control
           | with a little menu bar widget (perhaps automatically, by
           | heuristic.)
        
         | tqwhite wrote:
         | It doesn't seem expensive to me at all. It does a huge amount.
        
         | butlike wrote:
         | If offices still existed it could be a fun 'I'm a jackass'
         | office flair.
        
           | y-curious wrote:
           | This would really help my wife stop interrupting me during
           | meetings (and vice versa). But it relies on the user to
           | actively manage their status
        
       | evanwalsh wrote:
       | See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41838337
        
         | zhovner wrote:
         | Since then we have changed the name and added many features.
        
           | LeafItAlone wrote:
           | I've been waiting for this release. You also seem to have
           | changed the price, to be $60 more expensive.
           | 
           | That's a shame. The current price is what I'd immediately
           | pay, if I was getting two.
           | 
           | I'm sad this isn't in the price range I'm willing to pay. I
           | guess I'll just build my own.
        
       | spIrr wrote:
       | This feels like something one could easily procrastinate with
       | (customizable, developer-friendly...).
        
       | HeadlessChild wrote:
       | That is probably the coolest sales pitch page I have seen. Love
       | the design and animations.
        
       | ddtaylor wrote:
       | Neat. I have something I use that was $25 on Amazon. It's not as
       | fancy and has a crappy app, but it works for what I want with
       | displaying something to others while I stay focused.
       | 
       | The other features are interesting, but software features that
       | may not warrant a hardware.
       | 
       | This also doesn't seem bigger than a phone and makes me wonder
       | why not use a phone mount.
        
         | jelder wrote:
         | What's the $25 thing?
        
           | kayge wrote:
           | I'm going to guess it was something along the lines of this
           | [0]... wow now I kind of want to buy one of their larger
           | versions for the back of my car to remind tailgaters "Yes I
           | CAN go even slower" when I'm already going 5-10mph over the
           | speed limit
           | 
           | [0] https://amzn.to/3GiMXaA
        
       | nimbius wrote:
       | If you can afford a $250 light up piece of plastic nonsense to
       | taunt and gatekeep your coworkers with, chances are you can
       | probably spend $20 on a time management book.
       | 
       | this seems like an actively hostile narcissistic addition to a
       | collaborative workplace that would get you fired in a week.
        
         | sn0wleppard wrote:
         | Yeah, it didn't suprise me that the only woman in all the demos
         | was coming to interupt the BUSY dev and his Important Work. I
         | was surprised that this is made by Flipper, though!
        
         | WorldMaker wrote:
         | I've seen these kinds of things more for children/family in
         | work-from-home than coworkers. My mom used to do it primarily
         | with door status (is the door open or shut), but I've seen
         | families where something brighter and more obvious is helpful.
        
         | intalentive wrote:
         | I might use it to keep the kids out when I'm on a Zoom call in
         | the home office. It looks fun.
        
       | _joel wrote:
       | I'll wait for the PS30 knock offs, pretty cool though.
        
       | krunck wrote:
       | That hand... it's totally in the uncanny valley of hand motion.
        
         | scop wrote:
         | I hate it. Total revulsion of that hand. Makes me want to
         | vomit. Single handedly turns me off from the product.
        
           | beng-nl wrote:
           | The way it moves makes me think it's ai-generated..
        
             | raphman wrote:
             | I'm pretty confident that it is not AI-generated but simply
             | a traditionally animated 3D model.
             | 
             | https://cdn.flipperzero.one/BusyBar_First_Block_Video_Deskt
             | o...
        
             | SAI_Peregrinus wrote:
             | The cinematics in Descent 3 (1999) had some very similar
             | motion issues, enough so that I remember them today. It
             | comes from incorrect smoothing in the IK animation, doesn't
             | have to be AI generated.
        
               | Rooster61 wrote:
               | I dunno, I found those cinematics to be pretty endearing.
               | Sure, they've aged like mud, but I enjoyed the back in
               | the early 2000's :) They stayed well clear of the uncanny
               | valley.
        
         | cultofmetatron wrote:
         | now that you pointed it out.. holy #!$#$
        
         | timdiggerm wrote:
         | They don't have a functional physical product
        
         | wffurr wrote:
         | Yikes. First thing I noticed. Distracted me from the price tag
         | of the thing at least.
        
         | rezmason wrote:
         | If there was a product that let me convey "Come back later" to
         | a barging inquirer with a sharp and uncanny hand motion, I
         | might consider paying $249 for it:
         | 
         | https://cdn.flipperzero.one/lekyb_desktop_004.mp4
        
       | turbokit wrote:
       | it is a conversation starter more than a distraction stopper!
       | plus $250? no thanks! a small display on your desk won't
       | magically fix your environment!
        
         | benjymo wrote:
         | The video for the first use-case is kinda funny. Instead of
         | telling them to come back in a few minutes, just raise your
         | hand and point at the timer.
        
       | GeertJohan wrote:
       | It feels as if the text on top of the device is upside down..
       | Should be directed at the user of the device, who sits behind the
       | device (on the side of the small screen)
        
       | Kozmik1 wrote:
       | Back in my day the arrogant devs just used printer paper and a
       | hand drawn sign saying "GO AWAY!" taped to the back of their
       | chair.
        
         | CharlesW wrote:
         | In my tribes, the universal "please don't bother me right now"
         | sign has more typically been the wearing of over-the-ear
         | headphones.
        
           | voidUpdate wrote:
           | I wish I had the same tribes as you. People always come up to
           | me when I'm wearing my headphones, even trying to get my
           | attention in public
        
             | gorjusborg wrote:
             | There will always be migration between tribes and we
             | welcome you.
        
             | kstrauser wrote:
             | Shortening a story I've told a thousand times:
             | 
             | I went so far as to put a post-it note saying "I'M BUSY" on
             | my headphones. The usual suspect came up to me and tapped
             | me on the shoulder until I reacted, all so he could tell
             | me, "hah, someone put a post-it note on your headphones!"
             | 
             | If I didn't kill someone that day, it's unlikely that I
             | ever would.
        
         | dylan604 wrote:
         | Mine was updated to "Go away, or I will replace you with a
         | small shell script". I wish I could remember where I read that
         | from for proper attribution.
        
           | dizhn wrote:
           | Might have been the bible for how old that one is.
        
           | vonmoltke wrote:
           | I remember that on a Thinkgeek (RIP) t-shirt.
        
       | anonymous344 wrote:
       | i eork from home..alone no need to show
        
         | zhovner wrote:
         | For those who work from home, we have made it possible to hang
         | the device on the door so that no one knocks on your door when
         | you are on call. Also, by integration with the BUSY App it can
         | automatically block notifications on phone and desktop when you
         | are in focus mode.
        
       | d--b wrote:
       | Oof that demo video that shows a coworker coming to ask a
       | question and the guy just hits the busy button without turning
       | his head is brutal.
       | 
       | The device itself looks pretty neat, and seems like it does have
       | a lot more features than that douchebag-projecting use case.
       | 
       | For that price though, you might as well get an ipad...
        
       | bastardoperator wrote:
       | 249 bucks for a digital clock when I'm sitting in front of a
       | digital clock is pretty wild. I just set a timer in my terminal
       | and set myself to DND.
        
         | cg5280 wrote:
         | Seems like a simpler version could be sold for well under $50
        
           | jimmydoe wrote:
           | there are many pomodoro timer on amazon around $10.
        
         | IncreasePosts wrote:
         | Yeah but it's designey
        
           | handfuloflight wrote:
           | There is a subset of knowledge worker who would buy this off
           | of the landing page presentation alone.
           | 
           | It is me. I am that subset.
        
             | alsetmusic wrote:
             | Yeah, I wouldn't but I still find it delightful.
        
             | sschueller wrote:
             | Yes, I need to re-design my webpage for my Station Display.
        
             | cryptonector wrote:
             | I'm thinking about it...
        
             | anal_reactor wrote:
             | $249 is not that much for a toy for a tech worker. As in,
             | if it gives you entertainment for a month, it is something
             | you can afford.
        
               | nine_k wrote:
               | I bet the core audience is not software engineers, but
               | sales, higher-level customer support, and other
               | professionals with relatively expensive time who also
               | need to work with people around.
               | 
               | But I think the makers hope to have some extra sales from
               | the people buying it as a toy, too.
        
             | artursapek wrote:
             | maybe do some acid or something
        
           | butlike wrote:
           | The hand on the landing page could be better. Hits "Marvel
           | movie jumping"-levels of uncanny valley for me.
        
         | anon6362 wrote:
         | Never underestimate the large quantities of suckers who enjoy
         | retail therapy and have excessive money to spend on wildly
         | over-priced trends.
        
         | nine_k wrote:
         | But it's much more than just a digital clock. It's a very
         | bright LED remote display. It's easily programmable. Also, take
         | note of both the desktop and the mobile apps, plus _both_ Mater
         | and Home Assistan integrations.
         | 
         | Of course a device like this can be built for 10% of the price
         | tag, or maybe for $0 if you already have the spare parts lying
         | around, and just enjoy writing Arduino firmware sometimes. But
         | for a less techy customer this thing makes total sense, and for
         | a corporate customer it seems to have the full package for a
         | hassle-free deployment somewhere in a sales department.
         | 
         | BOM is always a very minor part of such projects, say, 5%; the
         | major cost is electronic / mechanical / software engineering,
         | then marketing (including the very good web site) and sales,
         | production and shipping, etc.
        
           | artursapek wrote:
           | it's a tech gimmick toy for adults and we all know that
        
             | butlike wrote:
             | It's a "my first product pipeline" toy so maybe we'll see
             | greater things from the inventor when they become COO years
             | down the line.
        
         | garyfirestorm wrote:
         | you could easily do this with a spare display and terminal
         | 
         | https://github.com/race604/clock-tui
         | 
         | bonus - i ported this to raspberry pi
         | https://youtube.com/shorts/rgm8lAlHus4
        
         | al_borland wrote:
         | I don't think the timer and status is for you, so much as for
         | other people in your physical world. Examples would be someone
         | who works at home who needs a way to signal to spouse/kids that
         | they are busy and when they will be free, or an office worker
         | who gets frequent walk up interruptions.
         | 
         | While there are certainly much cheaper ways to solve this
         | problem, I think there is a market. Specifically podcasters and
         | YouTubers who film at home, love gadgets that will look good in
         | the background of a video, and love gear more than the work
         | itself.
         | 
         | When I was in the office I solved this with a hoodie. If the
         | hood was up, I was focusing and people generally didn't bother
         | me. I never even said anything or realized I was doing it,
         | people just got it.
        
       | felipemesquita wrote:
       | It's nice that the phone app is free and works without the
       | device. I'm curious about how "Hardcore Mode (optional)" could
       | work, which the page describes as "Locks apps for the entire
       | focus session with no way to bypass it. The only way to unlock
       | them is a full phone reset."
       | 
       | I could not find this in the app, maybe it's Android only, an
       | upcoming feature, or requires the Busy Bar hardware device.
        
       | jelder wrote:
       | Where can I sign up to get notified when the desktop app is
       | available?
        
       | dylan604 wrote:
       | It's the Juicero of whatever market this is.
        
         | mempko wrote:
         | I work from home and this would be cool to communicate with my
         | kids when I'm on a call before they barge in asking questions.
         | HOWEVER, the price is WAY too high. This is at most a $50
         | dollar thing.
        
           | dylan604 wrote:
           | And that's what makes it Juicero level.
        
           | odysseus wrote:
           | I got a 2-pack of do-not-disturb doorknob hangers (similar to
           | the ones in hotels) from Amazon for $10.
           | 
           | Worked great with my kids for 2 months. Then they got used to
           | it and barged in anyway. The same would happen with this
           | gadget.
        
           | dfxm12 wrote:
           | Don't you already have a door? With a lock? A mute button?
           | OK, maybe those aren't cool, but don't you have a piece of
           | paper, pens, markers and some time to design your own DND
           | signs with your kids? $50 still seems like a lot. We don't
           | have to buy something to deal with every little inconvenience
           | in our lives when what we have on hand + maybe a tiny bit of
           | creativity can probably suffice.
        
           | fragmede wrote:
           | This is the boutique designed not-in-china version. If it
           | proves successful, a $50 Chinese knockoff will be along soon
           | enough. You can vote with your wallet and say fuck these guys
           | for having a good idea and working on it and buy the cheap
           | Chinese crap version when it's available if you'd rather.
        
       | caseyy wrote:
       | It can also be done with a bit of cardboard that says "Busy".
        
         | zhovner wrote:
         | Cardboard sign has no countdown timer and API.
        
           | caseyy wrote:
           | That's true. And it doesn't even have a display on the other
           | side -- how will you yourself know if you're busy?
        
       | sidcool wrote:
       | $249! Too much for something that can be an app.
        
         | stronglikedan wrote:
         | It's not about the functionality though. And of course it's
         | not, because like you say, it could be an app if it were.
         | 
         | It's about the interface. And of course it is, because look how
         | gorgeous yet minimal it is.
         | 
         | I guarantee most tasks can be accomplished with this in less
         | steps and less time than if you had to pull out your phone,
         | open an app, and do it. Remember, this is sitting on your desk
         | at arms length at any time you need to use it, and always in
         | your face with information at a glance.
        
         | swat535 wrote:
         | Why even an app? Most mobile devices already have Focus mode.
         | IOS offers plenty of options for this..
        
         | Rebelgecko wrote:
         | It seems like a big part of the advantage is that you won't get
         | distracted by your phone like you would with an app
        
       | turtlebits wrote:
       | The back of the device is so "busy" with all the text, it's
       | almost anti-productive. Especially if you have to stare at it
       | hanging off your monitor.
       | 
       | Why put the ugly bits right in front of your face?
        
       | tqwhite wrote:
       | This looks like a very cool and very fun tool. Perfecting its use
       | will be a much better way to avoid real work than scrolling
       | instagram.
        
       | pwenzel wrote:
       | I bought a six-pack of sand timers. They are silent, require no
       | apps, have no screens, and are beautiful. They will probably
       | outlive solutions such as these.
        
         | zimpenfish wrote:
         | > I bought a six-pack of sand timers.
         | 
         | How do they tell someone 15ft away that you're busy / on a call
         | / etc?
        
           | wlonkly wrote:
           | Remove top, toss sand in face.
        
       | dt3ft wrote:
       | I'd buy it if it had a subscription. /s
       | 
       | Does it work without a subscription?
        
       | burgerrito wrote:
       | Designer clock
       | 
       | and when I say "designer" I use the word like it's used in the
       | term "designer clothing"
        
       | pxoe wrote:
       | Would it even be possible to make a $250 fidgety trinket without
       | it being wasteful just about on every level?
        
       | masto wrote:
       | I was thinking of doing a kickstarter a while back for something
       | similar. One surprising thing that kept me from proceeding (or at
       | least, a thing I used as an excuse to not do the project) was
       | that the guy who "owns" the pomodoro timer trademark is a total
       | jerk about it.
        
       | karn97 wrote:
       | $250 for something that is a week long arduino project... You can
       | even 3D print the whole thing nowadays
        
         | gwbas1c wrote:
         | How much do you value your time? $250 / week is $13,000 a year,
         | well into the poverty range.
        
         | Rebelgecko wrote:
         | No wireless, less space than nomad, you can replicate this in a
         | few hours with FTP, curlftpfs, and SVN, etc.
         | 
         | Assuming the device is as polished as its slick marketing page,
         | I'm a little skeptical it could be replicated in a week. That
         | said, if you disagree this is a great opportunity to undercut
         | the competition!
        
       | vivzkestrel wrote:
       | you dont need all of that to improve focus. start with 30
       | seconds, clear your mind, set a timer for 30 seconds, sit in a
       | corner and start meditating. the challenge is that as soon as you
       | think of something inside your mind, stop the timer. do this
       | daily and your meditation times will slowly improve and your
       | focus will come back
        
         | qntmfred wrote:
         | i have a morning routine and the first thing i do is to set a
         | timer to meditate for 5 minutes. i rarely make it to 5 minutes
         | before the thoughts flood in and i decide to go ahead and dive
         | into the work. hadn't thought about making it a counting-up
         | timer instead to track the improvement but i'll be trying that
         | from now on
        
       | anon6362 wrote:
       | This should be a $4.99 app on a smartphone and/or desktop and
       | doesn't take up any space.
       | 
       | Related but different better time/social management physical
       | device for cube land would be an Arduino, a button, and an 4-7
       | color andon tower representing states such as:
       | 
       | - Working
       | 
       | - Lunch or errand (will return)
       | 
       | - Out-of-office (not returning for the day)
       | 
       | - Working remotely
       | 
       | - DND
       | 
       | - Open to socializing
       | 
       | - On vacation
       | 
       | And then a glossary for definitions posted prominently on the
       | cube/office and on the intranet portal personal page. No app, no
       | internet connectivity, no security vulnerabilities, no
       | complexity, and <$20.
        
       | numbers wrote:
       | I wouldn't buy this because of the price tag but I love the
       | industrial design of this thing! I wish there were more things
       | like this (albeit more practical) that I would like to upgrade my
       | desk with.
        
         | deepfriedbits wrote:
         | Same. Reminds me of something Teenage Engineering would
         | produce.
        
           | dmd wrote:
           | Theirs would be metal and cost $2300.
        
       | gwbas1c wrote:
       | I've been in a place where making that say "busy" when Visual
       | Studio had the focus would be really useful... Except (cough)
       | certain people in the culture would find it insulting.
       | 
       | It makes me wonder... How do you push on the "I can interrupt
       | anyone at any time for any reason" attitude? I had a lot of
       | trouble pushing on it in a previous workplace.
        
         | LeafItAlone wrote:
         | You be direct. When people come to you and interpret you, say
         | "I am currently working on something else, but I will come find
         | you when I'm free". Most people eventually pick up that IM'ing
         | first wastes less of their time.
         | 
         | If you constantly give them your attention immediately, you are
         | telling them that's how it should work.
        
           | Liquix wrote:
           | then come the hour long "it's easier if we just hop on a
           | meeting" invites or dreaded _" hi"_ messages because many of
           | the same people who aren't considerate about interruptions
           | are allergic to async communication
        
             | gwbas1c wrote:
             | I just decline those meetings. I only got pushback _once_ ,
             | and it was "next time that happens I'll take care of it for
             | you."
        
         | notatoad wrote:
         | >How do you push on the "I can interrupt anyone at any time for
         | any reason" attitude?
         | 
         | i feel like a big light-up sign on your desk that says "busy"
         | might be a good place to start with that.
        
       | jamesponddotco wrote:
       | If anyone is looking for something similar, but better priced,
       | the Ulanzi TC001[1] with a custom firmware[2] is pretty nice.
       | With the custom firmware, you can integrate it with Home
       | Assistant and do all sorts of things with it.
       | 
       | For example, one idea my wife had was to have one on top of the
       | washing machine displaying the last cycle of the machine based on
       | the energy readings from a Zigbee smart socket, so we don't have
       | to ask each other if the last cycle was a wash or drying cycle.
       | 
       | Will it change your life? No. But for $59 buckets it may add
       | convenience here or there -\\\\\\_(tsu)_/-
       | 
       | [1]: https://www.ulanzi.com/products/ulanzi-pixel-smart-
       | clock-288...
       | 
       | [2]: https://blueforcer.github.io/awtrix3/
        
       | butlersean wrote:
       | It's $250! FFS!
       | 
       | Donate 245 to a charity. And make a dual sided sign out of
       | reclaimed palet wood and that soldering iron you bought last
       | year.
        
       | taikahessu wrote:
       | We used to have doors in the office for this.
        
       | azinman2 wrote:
       | Feel extremely passive aggressive. Or just plain aggressive.
       | Especially the one of the woman coming over and the guy hitting
       | the busy button. If someone did that to me that'd be the last
       | time.
        
       | voidfunc wrote:
       | Cool industrial design, but might one of the dumbest product
       | ideas I've ever seen at that price point.
        
       | kazinator wrote:
       | That display looks like it could support some retro games that
       | could keep you engaged for hours.
       | 
       | I will get one when such are available. :)
        
       | Tepix wrote:
       | I used something simpler for 20EUR for a while to indicate my
       | busy status: https://www.getdigital.de/pages/offlineprodukt/usb-
       | mail-meld... I guess it's no longer for sale. It even worked with
       | Linux. I wrote some shell scripts back then to indicate my busy
       | status from my jabber account using this gadget.
        
       | 0x0 wrote:
       | I saw this on twitter a few hours ago on my phone, and misread
       | the price as $25, so I was considering maybe putting in an order
       | or even two, but when I revisited the site on my laptop and
       | discovered it was $250, my curiosity hit a wall. Looks like a
       | super neat product but unfortunately a bit overpriced for a
       | gimmick.
        
       | dbacar wrote:
       | What a beautifully designed toy.
        
       | donatj wrote:
       | I have a home office and sometimes my wife will come busting in
       | with the kids being silly. It's not a big deal but I would like
       | some sort of indication for outside the room for when I am in a
       | meeting.
       | 
       | This seems more designed for shared working spaces which seem
       | limited these days
        
         | opwieurposiu wrote:
         | Just tape a piece of paper to the door that says "IN MEETING".
         | On my kids this is about 75% effective.
         | 
         | That said, other people's kids busting is my favorite part of
         | zoom meetings.
        
       | neilv wrote:
       | That's a lot of distracting elements in the design, in something
       | intended to reduce distractions.
       | 
       | They're all saying "This has a lot of things, and we're going to
       | noisily tell you about them."
       | 
       | https://duckduckgo.com/?t=h_&q=fisher+price+busy+box&ia=imag...
       | 
       | What about instead an unobtrusive software-based timer on your
       | computer?
       | 
       | And the notification to coworkers not to interrupt you being a
       | low-tech "BUSY" Post-It on the back of your laptop. Or your
       | headphones on?
       | 
       | Though their advertising does have some interesting features and
       | use cases. For example, you'd need to figure out a convention
       | equivalent to smacking the Busy Bar button, to make your
       | colleagues slink away.
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_to_the_hand
        
       | imagetic wrote:
       | https://25min.work/
        
       | Cyphase wrote:
       | This is from Flipper Devices, who make the Flipper Zero.
       | 
       | https://flipperdevices.com/
        
       | nixpulvis wrote:
       | A pretty cardboard printout and a timer on your phone/computer
       | would be nearly as effective, no?
        
       | pedalpete wrote:
       | I'm amazed that nobody is pointing out that the entire thing
       | doesn't look "designed" it looks AI generated.
       | 
       | Give me a clock timer that has these features.... Make me a
       | website to sell this fake timer...
       | 
       | Particularly the instructive text on the back. A real designer
       | would never have all that descriptive text always visible for
       | things you'll only use once.
        
         | throitallaway wrote:
         | Yes, the "USB-C port at the bottom ---->" and huge QR code
         | really got me going. I have to hope that's all on a sticker
         | that's meant to be torn off after you take it out of the
         | package.
        
       | joshlemer wrote:
       | Aren't all the labels on the buttons facing the wrong way?
       | They're facing outwards in the direction of the screen viewer,
       | rather than inwards towards the person operating the thing.
        
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