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       'Minecraft Movie' Leaks Online: Full Unfinished Version Shared
        
       Author : austinallegro
       Score  : 34 points
       Date   : 2025-04-06 19:49 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (variety.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (variety.com)
        
       | IlikeKitties wrote:
       | nfo: https://pastebin.com/iLk9B0ef
       | 
       | COMMENTS: | | THIS IS A WORKPRINT! THIS IS NOT A FINAL VERSION OF
       | THE MOVIE! | | Contains unfinished CGI and different songs than
       | the final release. | | Colors have been adjusted. | | Retail
       | English audio synced. | | Logo and ads have been removed. | |
       | English AI SRT Sub Also Added | | If You Have Any Cam Audio Or
       | Video Send Me A PM | | or Email to will1869@protonmail.com or
       | DLManic987@proton.me
        
       | haunter wrote:
       | The Telesync version is out for days too and it's pretty good
       | quality.
       | 
       | But honestly the workprint version's jankiness somehow makes it
       | fun. Like those music videos with music removed on Youtube
        
         | hifikuno wrote:
         | I remember years ago seeing a prerelease version of one of the
         | wolverine movies. As the CGI models were still grayscale, it
         | was cool to see at what points the fights were actors and what
         | points it was CGI.
        
           | starshadowx2 wrote:
           | That was X-Men Origins: Wolverine. I was also thinking about
           | that when I heard about this leak. This was the infamous
           | Deadpool scene from it without the finished special effects,
           | it's actually pretty interesting to see it this way.
           | 
           | - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R5ffysgVvA
        
       | mystraline wrote:
       | This is also why I like Yandex and non-US and non-european search
       | especially in terms of censorship by copyright in the USA.
       | 
       | If you go to Yandex and search "a minecraft movie torrent" the
       | first 6 links are the preprint that variety.com 'claims' were
       | mostly removed. In reality, the only sites deindexed were Google
       | and Bing.
       | 
       | This shows that the limits of the first amendment are speech when
       | its convenient. Links, webpages, and more are speech, but also
       | completely censored in the US media.
       | 
       | Weirdly, Russian based companies have less a problem with the
       | free speech the USA kicks us offline for.
        
         | sepositus wrote:
         | > This shows that the limits of the first amendment are speech
         | when its convenient. Links, webpages, and more are speech, but
         | also completely censored in the US media.
         | 
         | I'm a bit confused by this. Are you saying that publishing the
         | text (speech) of a copyrighted book, and then having the link
         | to that text de-indexed, is the equivalent of violating the
         | First Amendment? I assume Google and Bing just treated this as
         | any other copyright violation.
        
         | bigstrat2003 wrote:
         | > This shows that the limits of the first amendment are speech
         | when its convenient. Links, webpages, and more are speech, but
         | also completely censored in the US media.
         | 
         | For better or for worse, the US only has free speech protection
         | which is binding on the government. Sometimes that's good (you
         | can kick out people who don't behave). Sometimes that's bad
         | (censored media). But even in the cases where it's bad, it's
         | not clear to me that it would be worth it to enact freedom of
         | speech laws that apply to private parties. It seems like the
         | cure might be worse than the disease in that case.
        
           | joshfee wrote:
           | The problem with enforcing "freedom of speech" on private
           | parties is that it essentially the same as infringing the
           | speech of that private party.
           | 
           | The only issue I have is when companies can play both sides
           | and in one breath claim they're neutral for the purpose of
           | section 230 protection, and then in the next breath take part
           | in censorship because it's better for business.
           | 
           | Pick a lane, either lane, but you shouldn't get it both ways
        
             | jcranmer wrote:
             | > The only issue I have is when companies can play both
             | sides and in one breath claim they're neutral for the
             | purpose of section 230 protection, and then in the next
             | breath take part in censorship because it's better for
             | business.
             | 
             | The entire point of SS230 is to immunize companies for the
             | consequences of that which you decry as censorship (i.e.,
             | moderation).
        
         | Fogest wrote:
         | Anytime I am searching for my live TV PPV "linux iso" streams I
         | always pull up Yandex. Same goes for pretty much anything
         | piracy. Even sometimes searching for research/stats that are
         | more "controversial" are often down-ranked in Google and hard
         | to find. Unfortunately there is a lot of political bias I've
         | noticed more and more often in Google Search results, and
         | resorting to Yandex sometimes results in better results.
         | 
         | I personally am a Kagi subscriber as well as find Google's
         | search results in general to be terrible. Censorship/political
         | bias/blogspam/terrible AI results are all the big factors for
         | me switching away from using them much at all.
        
         | Cheer2171 wrote:
         | The
         | 
         | First
         | 
         | Amendment
         | 
         | Applies
         | 
         | To
         | 
         | The
         | 
         | Government.
         | 
         | Google
         | 
         | Is
         | 
         | Not
         | 
         | The
         | 
         | Government.
        
           | IlikeKitties wrote:
           | YET
        
             | furyofantares wrote:
             | Growth mindset.
        
         | Aurornis wrote:
         | > Weirdly, Russian based companies have less a problem with the
         | free speech the USA kicks us offline for.
         | 
         | Yes, Russia, a place always known for enabling free and
         | unrestricted speech.
         | 
         | You're not seeing some deep commitment to free speech. You're
         | seeing a company in a foreign country not prioritizing matters
         | that apply to another country around the world.
         | 
         | Don't confuse one for the other.
        
         | lolinder wrote:
         | A more precise conclusion would be: "This shows that US based
         | companies will actively self-censor to avoid getting sued for
         | copyright infringement. Russian-based companies don't have to
         | respect US copyright law, so they have no legal obligation to
         | remove infringing content."
         | 
         | Yes, copyright infringement is not protected speech in the US
         | and you can be held civilly liable for it. Yes, adversarial
         | countries don't enforce each others' laws. So yes, Yandex is a
         | good place for finding pirated works. But that hardly makes it
         | a bastion of "free speech", it just means that they don't have
         | the same legal risks as Google does.
        
           | mystraline wrote:
           | DMCA 1201 indicates that I can be held criminally liable, not
           | just civially, for free speech discussing a method of working
           | around, bypassing, or defeating a perceived "technical
           | measure of prevention".
           | 
           | That alone is violation of the US govt's 1fa restriction
           | purely in the favor of companies.
        
             | refulgentis wrote:
             | AFAIK the 1st Amendment is about _whether the government
             | can prevent you from speaking_ , not _there are 0
             | consequences to all speech_.
             | 
             | When I think that, I also think, "but isn't it bad to
             | Illegal talking decryption?"
             | 
             | Then I think: Law is ambiguous compared to a logical proof,
             | and can only be seen through cases.
             | 
             | I resolve that I'll be the first to stand up and scream if
             | they deport someone for simply discussing the academics of
             | DVD decryption, and that's enough to make me feel
             | comfortable saying it's okay the DMCA is used to prevent
             | stealing.
        
         | yieldcrv wrote:
         | A common misinterpretation of the free speech concept as
         | codified in the 1st amendment.
         | 
         | The 1st amendment gives a freedom of association.
         | 
         | All of these private organizations are choosing not to
         | associate with that content, squarely in line with the 1st
         | amendment. The 1st amendment just says the government won't
         | criminally sanction anyone for not associating with someone
         | else.
         | 
         | This is in addition to the protections against the government
         | for your speech and expression.
        
           | mystraline wrote:
           | Please.
           | 
           | Its funny how Section 230 goes both advantageous ways for
           | companies, without either of the downsides. But mere mortals,
           | yeah, doesn't end well for us who try.
        
         | Cheer2171 wrote:
         | > censorship by copyright
         | 
         | Sure, buddy, pretend piracy is all about freedom of expression,
         | when all you libertarian trolls really want is to be able to
         | consume content from the fountainhead of Western cultural
         | hegemony without paying for it.
         | 
         | Are we talking about a commentary or review getting taken down
         | because it contains clips of the original? No. Are we talking
         | about political speech that uses a character from a popular IP
         | franchise as a mascot? No. We are talking about you wanting to
         | see an in-progress draft of something people have been spending
         | their time making and were not ready to show to the world yet,
         | except for one person who leaked it. You feel you deserve to
         | see that, for free, right now, on whatever spigot to the
         | Internet you want, because you are a three year old child who
         | thinks their immediate impulses and desires must be immediately
         | satisfied or else they throw a temper tantrum.
        
           | bigyabai wrote:
           | > because you are a three year old child who thinks their
           | immediate impulses and desires must be immediately satisfied
           | or else they throw a temper tantrum.
           | 
           | Once it leaks online, you can't take it back. The leaker knew
           | this, Warner Brothers knows this and the editors for Variety
           | do too. Their responses have all been adult and controlled,
           | the only person jumping to conclusions and demonizing anyone
           | here is you.
        
         | userbinator wrote:
         | Russia is just more interested in censoring political speech
         | than going after copyright claims. The same applies to China.
        
         | mitthrowaway2 wrote:
         | Interesting! Do they also have the Navalny movie?
        
         | sva_ wrote:
         | It is a lot crazier when you Google politicians and the search
         | page is clearly curated using the 'right to be forgotten' law
         | in the EU. I don't feel like that was the intention behind the
         | law, but then again, the ones abusing it are the ones who
         | passed it.
        
         | lm28469 wrote:
         | You can't swear on TV between 6am and 10pm, absolute freedom of
         | speech never existed, there are laws about libel, defamation,
         | copyright, inciting crimes, &c.
         | 
         | Grab a megaphone and go sing the national anthem at 2am in the
         | middle of a residential area if you want to learn about freedom
         | of speech
        
         | os2warpman wrote:
         | Yandex only became a Russian company fairly recently, after
         | over 20 years of being based outside of Russia.
         | 
         | It was sold, below market value, to a group of Russian
         | investors last year for the specific purpose of controlling it
         | and suppressing free speech.
         | 
         | Nobody, not a single human being in the entire history of
         | humanity, has ever died because they couldn't pirate a
         | children's film.
         | 
         | Many people have died, and continue die, because of Yandex's
         | cooperation with the FSB in shaping opinion, controlling the
         | dissemination of information, and directly reporting users to
         | the FSB for problematic searches.
         | 
         | Pirating children's films and controlling the availability of
         | news articles are different tiers of free speech.
        
       | jsheard wrote:
       | I wish studios would share these behind-the-curtain versions more
       | often, but I suppose that would go against their apparent belief
       | that CGI is a dirty word that can never be acknowledged even if
       | that means outright lying about how much they used. The last
       | Planet of the Apes movie did go there though, the 4K Bluray
       | includes a "raw cut" of the entire movie which shows exactly what
       | the camera saw.
        
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