[HN Gopher] MonkeysPaw - a prompt-driven web framework in Ruby
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       MonkeysPaw - a prompt-driven web framework in Ruby
        
       Author : daviducolo
       Score  : 23 points
       Date   : 2025-04-06 14:28 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
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       | dunefox wrote:
       | I don't know if I would use a framework named after something
       | that's by nature unreliable, or even devious.
        
         | ThrowawayR2 wrote:
         | It's only an issue if you get a copy by cURL-ing it, dohohoho.
        
       | bnchrch wrote:
       | While "silly" this is likely the next paradigm/abstraction for
       | intent based pages.
       | 
       | You can imagine given 1,000,000 page views just how many
       | experiments could be run. Basically our A/B tests start to
       | resemble natural evolution and survival of the fittest more than
       | decision trees.
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       | However, something feels like it's missing. I wonder what's still
       | yet to be built before we arrive at that future.
        
         | Stwerner wrote:
         | Yeah, totally agree that something related to this will likely
         | be the next paradigm. I've been putting together experiments in
         | different directions trying to find that thing that's missing
         | but haven't really found a killer use case yet to pull it all
         | together.
         | 
         | That's a really cool idea that once you can get something
         | somewhat reliably consistent generated, you can kind of let
         | your A/B tests start to run themselves with just rough
         | guidelines on what you're trying to optimize for...
        
       | Stwerner wrote:
       | Wow, cool to see this make it on to HN!
       | 
       | Author here, happy to answer any questions about this or chat
       | about the ideas behind it :)
        
         | ianbicking wrote:
         | I love that this is more art piece than serious software...
         | more like offering someone an expedition than a product.
         | 
         | (Though I'm not sure I'll get on the expedition, I am a little
         | worried about sandboxing and setup and getting distracted...)
         | 
         | If I was to start the expedition, I'd probably try to overshoot
         | by describing a site that I could not myself fully imagine, or
         | using attributes that lacked a single meaning. Like, "the
         | artist's interactive portfolio, as though the artist is looking
         | over your shoulder, the artist keeping a carefully neutral
         | expression while seething inside." Then I'd probably continue,
         | imagining just the outline of some site that satisfies some
         | unarticulated desire, putzing around as I see a concrete
         | articulation of that idea, as much reforming the idea in my
         | head in response to those results to an equal degree that I am
         | articulating the idea in more detail.
        
       | siliconc0w wrote:
       | I also created an experiment for this, giving the AI an ability
       | to write/read from a database so you could build full CRUD apps.
       | 
       | It works somewhat but even with the smaller/faster models it's
       | very slow and even with the big models it is pretty unreliable.
       | Long term I can definitely imagine this will get more viable and
       | maybe become a complement to the 'chat' interface with most SaaS
       | apps essentially being replaced with a AI in front of system or
       | systems of record.
        
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