[HN Gopher] Jumping Spiders
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       Jumping Spiders
        
       Author : rolph
       Score  : 127 points
       Date   : 2025-04-01 17:33 UTC (5 days ago)
        
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       | dreamcompiler wrote:
       | Most spiders have relatively poor eyesight. Jumping spiders are
       | an exception. They will chase a laser spot like a cat.
        
         | 0x1062 wrote:
         | I once had a jumping spider on top of my computer monitor and
         | it would chase the cursor around as I moved the mouse. I have a
         | video that I should post online somewhere
        
       | jillesvangurp wrote:
       | I just read Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky. It's a nice
       | bit of science fiction about the evolution of hyper intelligent
       | jumping spiders on a terraformed planet.
        
         | onthewall wrote:
         | Excellent book. This reminds me that I need to get on with
         | reading the sequels, so thank you.
        
         | globnomulous wrote:
         | Great recommendation. The second and third books leave
         | something to be desired, in my opinion, but no other sci fi
         | authors I'm aware of are as good as he is at what he does. His
         | sci fi speculates about biology and ecology, and extrapolates
         | outward from them, the way most sci fi speculates about
         | technology and society.
        
           | yencabulator wrote:
           | Yeah, same thing with his Final Architecture series,
           | promising but in the end middling. Great alien/synthetic mind
           | concepts, but as the story goes on most of them behave just
           | like humans except with funny ways of talking. Tchaikovsky's
           | _concepts_ are amazing, but he needs to pair up with another
           | author who 's better at aliens as characters.
        
             | globnomulous wrote:
             | That's a terrific point, and I agree completely. This also
             | explains my most recent sci-fi misadventure: a novel by
             | Christopher Paolini, _Fractal Noise_ , that earned glowing
             | praise from Tschaikovsky. It is a dreadful novel -- wooden,
             | stilted, repetitive, unimaginative -- but, hey, the concept
             | is mildly interesting, so I guess it gets the Tschaikovsky
             | seal of approval.
             | 
             | Peter F. Hamilton doesn't get a ton of praise for
             | characterization (and I found his latest novel strangely,
             | uncharacteristically vulgar and puerile), but I think he
             | has a lot of the chops that Tschaikovsky lacks --
             | especially when it comes to language. Tschaikovsky's
             | writing is at times awfully clunky. Hamilton's prose, by
             | contrast, in my view at least, is in its own category among
             | living sci-fi writers for its polish and effective use of
             | the countless tools the language offers.
        
               | HelloMcFly wrote:
               | Interesting. I basically feel the opposite - I love
               | Hamilton's ideas and _plotting_ but really think he
               | writes characters that don 't feel real, they feel too
               | much like archetypes. I can think of a few exceptions to
               | this, but almost all of his characters feel like
               | programmed automatons to me. And boy has he MISSED BIG
               | when writing female characters at times.
               | 
               | Unlike the others, I think Tchaikovsky's best writing is
               | in Children of Ruin. I know it's not as popular as
               | Children of Time, but I admired the way he didn't
               | rinse/repeat and instead created a wholly different view
               | of humanity's legacy intersecting with alien life. I
               | though the "antagonist" in that book was far more alien
               | and creative.
        
               | globnomulous wrote:
               | Man, I'm impressed by the quality of the responses my
               | offhand comments have received in this thread. I keep
               | getting corrected and find myself agreeing with the
               | corrections.
               | 
               | You're absolutely right that female characters are, uh,
               | not his strength, and mostly I think you must be right
               | about characterization in his work as a whole. That being
               | said, when I ignore the male characters who seem like
               | wish fulfillment of some adolescent power fantasy (Nigel
               | Sheldon -- immortal genius, intergalactic industrialist,
               | undisputed patriarch, and virile keeper of the harem?
               | Please.) and the female characters who are, you know,
               | young, "nubile," and hyper-sexual, the remaining roster
               | is, I think, solid. Even the characters who are
               | archetypes worked for me.
               | 
               | (Edit: sorry, I confused _Children of Ruin_ and _Children
               | of Memory_.)
               | 
               | And I find myself agreeing with your assessment of
               | _Children of Ruin_. In some ways I think it 's not well
               | constructed, sort of stumbling through the mystery,
               | winding up much longer than it needed to be, but the main
               | character (no spoilers) has a psychological richness that
               | I can't recall encountering in his other books and is the
               | only of his characters to whose fate I've felt
               | emotionally attached. The ending, too, is among the best
               | and most affecting I've read in quite a while.
               | 
               | And, yes, the antagonist and setting is, I think,
               | incredibly well conceived and well drawn.
               | 
               | So maybe I've changed my mind. Despite some structural
               | issues that, I think, weaken the novel (and I think
               | recall feeling that the 'reveal' came too early or just
               | that the clues leading up to it were too obvious), it may
               | be my favorite book in the series. Its more modest cosmic
               | stakes and narrower field of view, than a lot of the
               | other work of his that I've read, enable Tschaikovsky to
               | develop it into something quite special.
        
           | atombender wrote:
           | You may enjoy Peter Watts, especially Blindsight and its
           | sequel, Echopraxia.
           | 
           | Watts is himself a biologist, with a refreshingly unromantic
           | perspective on humanity's place in the universe.
           | 
           | (His other great story sequence, The Freeze-Frame Revolution,
           | is some of the darkest sci-fi I've read since Harlan
           | Ellison's "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream".)
        
             | alistairSH wrote:
             | Good call. That said, it was only on a second reading of
             | each, a few years after the first, that those two books
             | clicked for me.
        
             | globnomulous wrote:
             | This is an excellent recommendation! I read Blindsight
             | earlier this year. Easily one of my favorite sci-fi novels.
             | It and Canticle for Leibowitz are in a class by themselves
             | when it comes to sci-fi that deals with "philosophical"
             | issues.
             | 
             | I'll check out The Freeze-Frame sequence next, thanks!
             | First I just need to finish Consider Phlebas, which I'm
             | finding pretty weak.
             | 
             | Transference is also on the to-do list. Watts says it is
             | almost diametrically the opposite, intellectually, of
             | Blindsight, but he also praises it.
        
               | atombender wrote:
               | The Freeze-Frame stories are officially called the
               | Sunflower series. While different, they have the same
               | alien creepiness that Watts is so good at, the extreme
               | time frame (millions of years) makes it all the more
               | chilling.
               | 
               | It's a novel plus one prequel short story ("Hotshot"),
               | two sequels ("The Island" and "Giants"), and two short
               | fragments. All the shorts can be found on his web site, I
               | believe.
               | 
               | I also really enjoyed Echopraxia, the sequel to
               | Blindsight. I think some people thought it was too
               | different from what they expected; it doesn't pick up
               | Siri Keaton's story, but tells a vaguely concurrent one.
               | There's a Portia connection there too, by the way.
               | 
               | Consider Phlebas is one of my favourite Banks novels, but
               | I know many people dislike it. If this is your first
               | Banks book, don't write off Banks completely. Finishing
               | Phlebas is a great stepping stone to read Look to
               | Windward, which I personally think is Banks' best Culture
               | novel.
               | 
               | What's Transference? The Ian Patterson book?
        
               | globnomulous wrote:
               | Sorry, my mistake: the title is _Permanence_. Author is
               | Karl Schroeder. If I remember correctly (and clearly my
               | memory isn 't to be trusted), Watts says in the afterword
               | of _Blindsight_ that he violently disagrees with
               | Schroeder, or the perspective Schroeder offers, in that
               | book, but I believe he recommends it as a rich
               | exploration of many of the issue _Blindsight_ explores.
               | 
               | Thanks for the write up. I'm completely sold on Sunflower
               | series, and will probably read it next. It sounds very
               | promising -- and probably short enough that I can slip it
               | in between books 1 and 2 of the Culture series.
               | 
               | Thanks also for the encouragement to stick with Banks,
               | too. I'll try. I'm not sure I'll be able to last for six
               | full books though. The storytelling in _Consider Phlebas_
               | -- which I 'd call action-adventure sci-fi maximalism --
               | isn't working all that well for me. There's so much
               | technobabble. There are so many lasers. So much ink is
               | spilled filling out the world just for the sake of it.
               | It's a massive overload and baroque overdose of sci-fi
               | tropes. So far the most interesting episode has been, I
               | think, the main character's interaction with the shuttle
               | on the island.
        
               | atombender wrote:
               | Thanks, I'll check out Permanence, never heard of this
               | author.
               | 
               | Oh, Banks is definitely maximalism. I always enjoyed him
               | as a kind of more serious version of Douglas Adams; his
               | books are infused with a kind of wry, mildly nihilistic
               | comedy, full of colourful, somewhat random exposition and
               | sarcastic asides. His "Outside Context Problem" [1] is
               | like something straight out of the Hitchhiker's Guide.
               | 
               | Phlebas is pretty atypical among the Culture series, in
               | that's not particularly funny, but actually pretty grim.
               | It's not even told from the point of view of the Culture.
               | There is lots of classic Banks shenanigans -- the set
               | pieces (Clean Air Turbulences, the Game of Damage), the
               | drones, the long expositions of backstory, they're all
               | there in later novels.
               | 
               | He's rarely all lasers and explosions, though! Keep in
               | mind that Phlebas is his "Hollywood world war 2 movie"
               | book. It's his version of the "suicide mission behind
               | enemy lines" Hollywood plot (think The Dirty Dozen or
               | maybe Cross of Iron). But it's also a really grim version
               | of it. It ends up on a poignant note, then undermines its
               | entire premise by pointing out, in the appendix -- which
               | explains what happened to the characters afterwards --
               | that none of it actually mattered in the end. This
               | poignancy is carried over to Look to Windward, a sequel
               | set about 800 years later that examines the long-term
               | consequences of the war depicted in Phlebas. So much of
               | the Culture books are about the consequences of war and
               | the desire to avoid it at all costs.
               | 
               | Just because I'm a roll, I'd like to add that I think
               | Banks' non-Culture sci-fi is underrated. A standout is
               | Feersum Endjinn, which always struck me as a novel Terry
               | Pratchett could have written if he'd been into hard sci-
               | fi. It's set on a future earth where most of humankind
               | has long ago left for the stars, and the remaining, rag-
               | tag population has descended into a medieval class
               | inhabiting the gothic megastructures left by the previous
               | generations. Much of the book is told by one of Banks'
               | most memorable and endearing characters, a young monk-
               | like simpleton who writes phonetically a la Riddley
               | Walker (hence the book's scrambled title) and who
               | inadvertently bumbles his way into a conspiracy between
               | the warring classes. Shades of China Mieville and William
               | Gibson here, too, with the baroque city landscape and
               | cyberpunky "cryptosphere" holding the uploaded images of
               | the dead.
               | 
               | I also really enjoyed his early novel (but later-
               | published) Against a Dark Background, a road movie of a
               | crime heist thriller set in a sort of anti-Culture
               | universe, a planet so distant from any galaxy that its
               | civilization has given up ever trying to reach the stars.
               | Like Phlebas it's very grim, and not for everyone.
               | 
               | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excession#Outside_Conte
               | xt_Prob...
        
               | gpderetta wrote:
               | I think that Blindsight is a much tighter story with
               | great horror (existential or otherwise) elements, and the
               | consciousness themes were outstanding.
               | 
               | I liked Echopraxia, but the concept of the god-virus is
               | not as fleshed out. Still the treatment of Portia spiders
               | by itself make the book worthy of a read.
        
               | globnomulous wrote:
               | After reading your comment, I visited a synopsis of
               | _Echopraxia_ , because, I realized, I could remember
               | almost nothing of it -- only a few snapshots of a space
               | station and vampiric predation. Turns out it left almost
               | no imprint on my brain. _Blindsight_ is, I agree, much
               | tighter (and thus, for me apparently, more memorable).
               | Looking back on _Echopraxia, I wonder whether it suffers,
               | as_ Children of Time*, I think, does, from trying too
               | hard to expand its established universe.
               | 
               | The god virus really is a fun idea -- more of Watts' one-
               | man war on the tree of life (not only is God not at the
               | top some metaphysical/ontological hierarchy; it's at the
               | very bottom) -- but, in retrospect, I think you're right
               | that it's not as well developed as it could have been or
               | maybe needed to be.
        
               | ashoeafoot wrote:
               | player of games is a great starting point
        
             | dreamcompiler wrote:
             | Blindsight is remarkable for its exploration of what
             | intelligent life without consciousness might be like.
             | 
             | For me personally I was amazed that one of the lead
             | characters is a vampire. I'm completely burned out on
             | vampire stories yet Watts made one I very much enjoyed.
             | Even if you're also bored with vampires, I recommend you
             | try this book.
        
               | arunix wrote:
               | I didn't understand the vampire thing. That seemed like
               | the least realistic part of the story.
        
               | globnomulous wrote:
               | Oh, man, I love the vampires, realistic or not.
               | 
               | They're a hominid and belong to our species but are
               | completely alien and terrify humans at a deep, genetic,
               | evolutionary level. I love the way Watts describes Siri's
               | involuntary reaction to the vampire, as though his fear
               | and awareness of being viewed as little more than a
               | potential meal are baked into his biology.
               | 
               | Similar to a newborn duckling that instinctively hides
               | from shadows of a certain shape even though it has no
               | concept of birds of prey, Siri experiences, when he
               | interacts with the vampire, some similarly ancient,
               | autonomic memory from the time when our ancestors were
               | prey animals. We become little more than flighty,
               | paranoid herd animals, jumping at the merest snap of a
               | twig, like deer, when we find ourselves in the presence
               | of an animal that flips the appropriate switch in our
               | biology.
               | 
               | It's a wild, compelling subversion of so many sci-fi
               | tropes and so much self-congratulatory tree-of-life
               | bullshit and so much of our instinctual belief system
               | regarding the way we fit into the world. It's also a
               | completely novel (as far as I know) approach to
               | undermining the notion of humanity's specialness,
               | highlighting the fact that we're just animals -- and that
               | our betters are, too, just as the invading aliens are, in
               | a very different way.
        
             | gpderetta wrote:
             | The sunflower cycle (which FFR is part of) is positively
             | optimistic compared to the rifters universe. Which is also
             | a great read.
        
           | enriquto wrote:
           | > The second and third books leave something to be desired
           | 
           | Also got this feeling on the first read... but now I remember
           | them very fondly! I like to think that this trilogy happens
           | in the same universe as Dune, being a prequel to the events
           | of Dune. The homage to the Dune universe by the author is
           | obvious (the names of the books, the notion of "other
           | memories", etc). But many notions fit together, with some
           | effort in your imagination. The second book of the trilogy
           | provides a mechanism to explain the other memories in the
           | form of nodal biology. The octopi ftl technique is
           | reminiscent of the guild navigators. The third book hints
           | subtly at a reason why the butlerian jihad could have
           | happened.
        
           | geden wrote:
           | I thought the second and third books were also great, but
           | different flavours, he didn't just repeat.
           | 
           | The second goes for more of a horror angle and has some
           | incredible moments. The third is one of the most ambitious
           | books SF novels I've read. Blurry and confusing on purpose,
           | which is a fine line to tread (reminiscent of the latter Jeff
           | Vandermeer Southern Reach books).
           | 
           | Recently went to a book reading and Q&A for his new one
           | Shroud, really smart and humble chap. Deeply into his
           | research.
           | 
           | Also, notably, he wrote a book a year for 17 (one seven)
           | years before being published. And then it took 12? more novel
           | before he had a hit with Children Of Time. He didn't seem to
           | have a shred of resentment about that which felt remarkable
           | and and incredible example of perseverance and enjoyment of
           | process over result.
           | 
           | A fourth Children Of book is imminent.
        
             | globnomulous wrote:
             | My exchange with another commenter in this thread led me to
             | reconsider the _Children of Time_ series, and I 'm now
             | inclined to agree with you, putting the second and third
             | books, books, particularly the third, ahead of the first.
             | (And as I said elsewhere in the thread, I'm really
             | impressed, and delighted, by the quality of the responses
             | people have offered to my offhand comments).
             | 
             | "Because we're going on an adventure." Funny, it hadn't
             | occurred to me to think of the second book as horror, but
             | you're right.
             | 
             | I had no idea Tschaikovsky's career arc was so grueling. I
             | agree that he seems incredibly smart. I just, for the life
             | of me, can't understand why he had anything nice to say
             | about _Fractal Noise_. That misfire alone (Just the result
             | of his good manners, politics, or kindness to fellow
             | writers?), I think, tarnished my view of his work.
             | 
             | I'll add Vandermeer to my to-read list, thanks!
        
         | Matumio wrote:
         | The book makes a reference to _Portia_ , which seem to be quite
         | intelligent jumping spiders in reality, in the sense that they
         | can plan long convoluted paths and may be able to count.
         | 
         | Research article:
         | https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10....
        
       | thenthenthen wrote:
       | TIL spiders 'molt' wow.
        
         | adrian_b wrote:
         | Molting their chitinous exoskeleton is a shared characteristic
         | of a huge group of animals, which is named using a Greek word
         | for this feature (Ecdysozoa) and which includes not only
         | spiders and all other arachnids, but also all insects and
         | crustaceans and all other arthropods, and also other animals
         | related to arthropods, i.e. velvet worms, tardigrades,
         | roundworms and several kinds of marine worms.
         | 
         | Molting is one of the features that makes difficult for
         | arthropods to reach great sizes (because their skeleton and
         | tegument cannot grow between moltings; it only is exchanged
         | with a bigger external skeleton during molting), but otherwise
         | it has been an important factor for the success of this group
         | of animals, by allowing them to live in any environment,
         | because their bodies are better separated and protected from
         | the environment than for most other animals.
        
           | andrewflnr wrote:
           | Depends what you mean by "great size"? I guess? Maybe they'll
           | never reach elephant size, but Arthropleura was pretty dang
           | big.
        
             | adrian_b wrote:
             | There is an overlap in size between the biggest arthropods
             | and the smallest vertebrates, but neither arthropods can be
             | as big as the bigger vertebrates, nor vertebrates can be as
             | small as the smaller arthropods.
             | 
             | Some arthropods could reach greater sizes than today during
             | times when they had less competition from vertebrates and
             | when the air was richer in oxygen, but that has become
             | impossible later.
             | 
             | Arthropods have been the first terrestrial animals and then
             | the first flying animals. In each case there has been a
             | long time when they had no competition from vertebrates, so
             | they could be significantly bigger than later, when they
             | had to regress to their smaller optimum size.
             | 
             | A very big arthropod would become much slower than a
             | vertebrate of the same size, due to difficulties in
             | respiration and circulation that would not be able to
             | supply the muscles with enough oxygen and fuel for
             | sustained effort and due to the need for requiring very
             | thick nerves for an acceptable speed of propagation for the
             | nervous signals.
             | 
             | Molting creates problems because reaching a great size
             | requires a very large number of moltings. Each molting is a
             | time when the animal is extremely vulnerable, being unable
             | to move or defend itself. Many moltings create many
             | opportunities for being killed by some predator, and for a
             | bigger animal it would be more difficult to find a hiding
             | place during molting.
             | 
             | Arthropleura was very long and thin, which alleviated the
             | respiration problems, but even so it must have been a slow
             | animal. Fortunately for it, at that time there were few
             | terrestrial predators and they were still small. When that
             | has changed, nothing approaching the size of Arthropleura
             | has ever evolved again.
        
               | card_zero wrote:
               | Some discussion of this here:
               | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meganisoptera
               | 
               | * There was at least one giant dragonfly-thing alive at a
               | time when oxygen levels _weren 't_ all that elevated.
               | 
               | * Maybe they could kind of sort of breathe! By expanding
               | their tracheal tubes.
               | 
               | * Subsequently they began to be predated by birds and
               | mammals. Prior to that they may have been locked into a
               | race (against their prey) to be the biggest, like that
               | giant Italian goose and its giant barn owl predators:
               | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garganornis
        
               | adrian_b wrote:
               | As mentioned on that Wikipedia page, that big dragonfly-
               | like insect from the upper Permian was already only
               | slightly more than half the size of its ancestors from
               | the lower Permian, which could have been caused by the
               | lower oxygen content in the air.
               | 
               | The fact that it was still much larger than current
               | insects is most likely explained by the fact that there
               | were no flying vertebrates that could compete with it or
               | hunt it.
        
           | mmooss wrote:
           | Well said; I can delete my (later) sibling comment!
           | 
           | > Molting is one of the features that makes difficult for
           | arthropods to reach great sizes
           | 
           | Also, chitin becomes too heavy. Somehow, it's connected to
           | body mass increasing as the cube of length, but I don't
           | remember exactly how. Maybe the chitin legs would have to be
           | too strong.
           | 
           | > their skeleton and tegument cannot grow between moltings
           | 
           | To clarify an essential aspect: because their rigid
           | exoskeleton can't grow, they must shed and replace it for
           | their body to grow.
        
         | vharuck wrote:
         | If you want to see someone that makes you say "Wow" and/or
         | "Eww", look up videos of tarantula molting.
        
         | mystified5016 wrote:
         | If you've ever found a big 'dead' spider in an open area of
         | your basement, chances are high that it's actually a discarded
         | exoskeleton and the real, even bigger, spider is still hanging
         | around somewhere hidden.
        
       | Galatians4_16 wrote:
       | I wish they were larger. I'd keep one and feed it rats & geckos.
        
       | weard_beard wrote:
       | https://pressbooks.pub/anansi/chapter/chapter-1/
        
       | vharuck wrote:
       | Jumping spiders make great pets. The ones I've kept build silk
       | tubes in the upper corners of their terrariums to hide and sleep
       | in, meaning I could see them most of the time. They actively
       | hunt, which is fun to watch. And even the common phidippus audax
       | has bright coloring. They only live a year or two, but it's cool
       | to watch them grow.
       | 
       | Beyond the facts in this article, jumping spiders have also shown
       | spatial reasoning. When they see prey on another leaf behind
       | their jumping range, they'll climb down and find a path to the
       | prey's leaf, even if the prey isn't visible during this detour.
       | They remember it's relative location and seemingly "choose" the
       | best route to get there.
       | 
       | Edit: You can also "hand feed" your jumping spider with a cotton
       | swab dipped in sugar water. They drink flower nectar in the wild,
       | so my wife and I tried this and it worked!
        
         | vharuck wrote:
         | The Peckham Society is an informal group that shares research
         | on jumping spiders: http://peckhamia.com/
        
         | greeneggs wrote:
         | > Edit: You can also "hand feed" your jumping spider with a
         | cotton swab dipped in sugar water. They drink flower nectar in
         | the wild, so my wife and I tried this and it worked!
         | 
         | But don't they need live protein, like flightless fruit flies?
         | I feel like the need to raise prey is the biggest downside to
         | having a jumping spider pet.
        
           | pixl97 wrote:
           | Being the the previous poster was talking about their hunting
           | practices it sounds like that is how they get water that has
           | a bit of nutrient value.
        
           | vharuck wrote:
           | They do need protein. Nectar is an extra and easy source of
           | energy. And my wife is the kind of person who wants to play
           | with her pets, no matter the species. The Q-tip was the only
           | thing I agreed to, because I didn't want to terrify the
           | spider by picking it up. For sustenance, we gave them meal
           | worms, crickets (their size or smaller), and sliced fruit.
           | Not sure if they drank much fruit juice, but it kept the
           | crickets happy.
        
       | bashmelek wrote:
       | I used to see these in Florida a lot when I was a kid. What
       | happened?
        
         | Xiol32 wrote:
         | We did.
        
         | sejje wrote:
         | You grew up
        
       | headsupernova wrote:
       | Three times, while photographing these little critters, I've had
       | them jump straight onto the camera lens. A startling experience!
        
       | giantg2 wrote:
       | I remember being a kid and we had a small jumping spider living
       | in our car for about a week. It would actually jump onto our
       | hands and let us look at it. Then we'd move our hand to another
       | part of the car in the direction it was moving and it would jump
       | onto whatever was close there.
       | 
       | Now I find very large mostly black jumping spiders under my
       | beehive top lid. No doubt they are well fed on some of the bees
       | (I've seen one eating/drinking one).
        
         | cryptonector wrote:
         | > Now I find very large mostly black jumping spiders under my
         | beehive top lid. No doubt they are well fed on some of the bees
         | (I've seen one eating/drinking one).
         | 
         | Same here! Hives that have an inner cover sometimes have
         | several of these, and they get to be really big. I imagine they
         | snack on a bee a day or so.
        
       | every wrote:
       | My introduction to jumping spiders was as a child on a long,
       | boring drive in the back seat of a Buick. One emerged from
       | somewhere down in the door and crawled onto the glass. When I
       | moved closer it would back away. When I moved back it would
       | follow me. When I tilted my head to get a better look it tilted
       | in response. We kept this nonsense up for the rest of the trip...
        
       | fipar wrote:
       | We had one as a friend-pet for a while a few years ago. We went
       | outside one day and found one leaf in our plum tree was tube-
       | shaped with some spiderweb and after some waiting, off she came
       | (I have no idea if it was male or female but Spanish is a
       | gendered language and spiders are female, so we always referred
       | to it as "her").
       | 
       | Every day around noon she'd come out of her leave and wait to
       | catch an insect. It was amazing to see her precisely jump to get
       | it, and watching her eat was a mix of gross and interesting. I
       | normally dislike spiders (though I don't kill them unless I
       | really feel threatened) but jumping spiders are an exception and
       | I'd actually describe them as nice, almost pet/friend material.
        
         | nkrisc wrote:
         | Many people do keep jumping spiders as pets.
        
           | zabzonk wrote:
           | I used to have a zebra jumping spider living on my office
           | windowsill - kept me amused for hours.
        
       | jtbayly wrote:
       | This page kept changing to a new article as I tried to read it.
       | Very frustrating.
        
         | yencabulator wrote:
         | It's annoying. They use side-scrolling for prev/next
         | navigation, and I've discovered I drag down on my touchpad at
         | an angle.
        
         | hermitcrab wrote:
         | Yes. Interesting article. Crap website design.
        
       | symbolicAGI wrote:
       | Fascinated by spiders and insects growing up in Upstate NY - the
       | largest jumping spider there gets 20mm long. Their eyesight and
       | reflexes are fast enough to stalk a landed house fly and catch it
       | on its takeoff.
       | 
       | Still feel comfortable today in a deep squat from those days long
       | ago.
        
       | zulu-inuoe wrote:
       | A nice enjoyable read, thank you
        
       | dev_l1x_be wrote:
       | I have these jumping spiders living in my apartment and my kids
       | love them. They are natural part of life, harmless and quite fun.
       | I was not even aware of these little animals but once I found one
       | and started to go down the jumping spider rabbit hole, and after
       | tha, bumm, jumping spiders everywhere. I have taken pictures of 4
       | species so far in my country, which a super difficult task.
       | Anyways, jumping spiders <3.
       | 
       | These two has wikipedia links:
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebra_spider
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asianellus_festivus
        
       | hxorr wrote:
       | You can see most species of jumping spider found in your area by
       | using iNaturalist's map search tool - example for around Miami,
       | Florida:
       | https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?lat=25.721542439731...
       | Shows 45 species
        
         | cryptonector wrote:
         | That's a great tool!
        
       | somishere wrote:
       | It's their movement that I find fascinating. It's like they just
       | snap between positions [1]. They're incredibly fast.
       | 
       | Not to mention exceptionally beautiful (often irridescent [2])
       | and entirely curious.
       | 
       | I have thousands of happy snaps like those from around our old
       | gaf of different pals that caught my eye or walked a web over one
       | of us. So cool.
       | 
       | [1] https://i.imgur.com/kVK8z2p.mp4 [2]
       | https://i.imgur.com/Ig3Nob5.jpeg
        
       | codedokode wrote:
       | Spiders are scary enough even without jumping.
        
         | cryptonector wrote:
         | Jumping spiders are adorable and no threat to humans.
        
           | codedokode wrote:
           | But have a venom.
        
       | HankB99 wrote:
       | https://photos.app.goo.gl/wEJJAqsyXVjhT5jW7
       | 
       | Maybe jumping spider? The iridescent colors were spectacular.
        
       | nickpsecurity wrote:
       | These things are neat. I like how they see us, disappear, and
       | then reappear right above or under us. They'll also jump and spin
       | around facing you if you try to pet them from behind. They're
       | funny. I have two, recent examples of their disappearing act.
       | 
       | One was on the far end of a picnic table looking at me. It slowly
       | moved backwards to disappear under the table. I felt I just knew
       | what it was planning. I keep my eyes open as I worked on my
       | laptop. Eventually, the spider's head creeps out from under the
       | table between my waist and laptop. So, I tried to pet it and it
       | starts jumping across the table. I can't remember if it jumped
       | off the table.
       | 
       | My mom saw one in or around her car. It disappeared. She had a
       | feeling she'd see it again but hopefully not while in heavy
       | traffic. Later on, after getting in, a black form slowly descends
       | in front of her face. It was just looking at her. I can't
       | remember how she reacted to that.
       | 
       | We've had multiple places with lots of brown recluses. Some said
       | they were too big. Must be wolf spiders. They look like recluses
       | do in all the online pictures and nothing like wolf spiders
       | usually do. I've imagined buying a bunch of jumping spiders to
       | throw in the attic or underneath a house like that. I wonder if
       | they'd (a) kill brown recluses at all and (b) clear a house out.
       | While I doubt it's practical, using my favorite spiders as a
       | weapon against my least favorite was an amusing thought.
        
       | cryptonector wrote:
       | Jumping spiders are really cute and really smart. Every one of my
       | beehives has at least one jumping spider somewhere in or near it
       | (typically between the lid and the inner cover, in the case of my
       | Langstroth hives and my Langstroth to top-bar hive conversions,
       | whereas in my from-scratch top-bar hives they typically hang out
       | on top of the top bars). We stare at each other. Sometimes I'll
       | flick one off its spot on an inner cover, possibly sending it
       | very far, but no matter, they always find their way back.
        
       | yungporko wrote:
       | jumping spiders are very cool but god this site sucks to use on
       | mobile. 3 times i accidentally "swiped" to a new article while
       | trying to scroll down before i gave up trying to finish it, at
       | which point i realised you can't swipe to go back/forwards
       | because they've hijacked that action for the stupid article
       | swiping thing. 0/10 worse than plain text on a white background.
        
       | keepamovin wrote:
       | Great photos in this article. I wonder what the lens is?
        
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