[HN Gopher] The Egg (2009)
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The Egg (2009)
Author : jxmorris12
Score : 218 points
Date : 2025-03-31 11:45 UTC (1 days ago)
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| Klaster_1 wrote:
| Kurzgesagt adaptation:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6fcK_fRYaI
| numinix wrote:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoUMY-I_m7c
|
| This was my introduction to it!
| jt-hill wrote:
| Wait, this is Andy Weir? Like, _that_ Andy Weir? Like, The
| Martian and Project Hail Mary Andy Weir? I had no idea.
| rpmisms wrote:
| Yep. The Martian began as basically a blog, you know.
| voidUpdate wrote:
| He has a whole load of short stories on his website, and a
| whole series about a mermaid too
| pkilgore wrote:
| Pleasant way to start today thanks for submitting.
| zidad wrote:
| Love it! I liked his other short stories as well:
| https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35502775-the-egg-and-oth...
| A_D_E_P_T wrote:
| Hah, it's literally Schopenhauer's hell: Humans as both the
| tormenting demons and as those doing the suffering. In this case,
| _one_ human -- which further frames suffering as an inescapable,
| masochistic cycle. "You were victimizing yourself" says the
| demiurge.
|
| That everything is predetermined and that time is nonlinear is
| also something that should trouble every contemplative person.
|
| It's basically a devil's brew of nihilism and determinism that
| frames existence as a solitary, predetermined journey toward an
| abstract goal (maturation into godhood?!) that renders individual
| lives expendable and morally ambiguous. And it plays out over a
| trillion or so years. Horrifying.
|
| It's especially funny as the author, with very little awareness
| of what he was writing, tried to strike positive "we are all one"
| notes... And ended up with something that would give Ligotti
| nightmares.
| _def wrote:
| Well if you only focus on the bad stuff that happens during a
| human life, sure.
| A_D_E_P_T wrote:
| As old Schop said: _" Pleasure is never as pleasant as we
| expected it to be and pain is always more painful. The pain
| in the world always outweighs the pleasure. If you don't
| believe it, compare the respective feelings of two animals,
| one of which is eating the other."_
|
| People look to religion and metaphysics for justice and
| salvation. This poor "Egg" guy is trapped in a trillion-year
| cycle of pain and injustice. I guess it's Buddhist hell,
| too...
| bccdee wrote:
| That's not true at all though. This is how a baby thinks
| about a needle. Often pain is less painful than we expect,
| and pleasure is pleasantly surprising.
|
| > The pain in the world always outweighs the pleasure. If
| you don't believe it, compare the respective feelings of
| two animals, one of which is eating the other.
|
| Getting eaten is the last 5 minutes of a prey animal's
| life. If you asked that antelope whether those few clumsy
| minutes of bleeding out outweighed a lifetime of frolicking
| through fields, all the children they sired, all the
| berries they ate, I think they'd be a bit offended.
|
| Anyway, this has nothing to do with the story. This is a
| worldview committed to pessimism, where bad must always
| outweigh good because it is easier to upset ourselves by
| contemplating bad things than to soothe ourselves by
| contemplating good things, and therefore the bad must
| clearly predominate. There are very few things I'm willing
| to dismiss as a mindset problem, but this is one of them.
| Schopenhauer should have gone to therapy.
| wat10000 wrote:
| I have a hard time thinking of any kind or quantity of
| pleasure that would outweigh some of the more horrible
| fates that some people have had.
| bccdee wrote:
| Sure. I'm not saying the good outweighs the bad in every
| individual life. But you're explicitly picking the most
| extreme examples, and this is a claim being made about
| life in general.
| wat10000 wrote:
| I believe the point is that the person in The Egg
| experiences every extreme example.
| bccdee wrote:
| They live each life separately, though, with no memories
| of their other lives. Joe from Idaho isn't suffering in
| the moment because of the experiences of some poor sap
| halfway across the world, even if they're both part of a
| greater continuum. The character will only regain memory
| of all the events when they "hatch" & become a god, at
| which point (being divinely capable of remembering
| billions of lifetimes) they will presumably have the
| mental fortitude to deal with that trauma.
| wat10000 wrote:
| As far as we know, people don't remember anything after
| they die. Does that mean it's no big deal to torture you
| to death? You won't remember it.
| wrinkl3 wrote:
| Another (very) short story that plays with this idea is Neil
| Gaiman's Other People: https://xpressenglish.com/our-
| stories/other-people/
| sdwr wrote:
| The social plane is built upon the physical. What an out of
| touch, privileged, insulated attitude, having them the other
| way around.
| nthingtohide wrote:
| Eternal afterlife is a incoherent concept.
|
| The Horror of Eternal Life | Isaac Asimov's The Last Answer
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9R16NV9Imo
| bccdee wrote:
| > And it plays out over a trillion or so years. Horrifying.
|
| Horrifying to whom? The character isn't suffering. They aren't
| aware of the passage of those trillions of years. There's
| nothing any more horrifying about this than about bog-standard
| reincarnation.
|
| And so what if you're the only one? That's not really true in a
| functional sense. Every human you interact with is indeed a
| truly conscious individual with a discrete personality and
| life. You only become integrated as a single organism when the
| egg "hatches" and you join the broader society of adults.
| A_D_E_P_T wrote:
| > _There 's nothing any more horrifying about this than about
| bog-standard reincarnation._
|
| Reincarnation tends to assume at least some degree of
| continuity and free will.
|
| This thing assumes that you're eventually _going_ to be,
| e.g., The Elephant Man, or that poor Japanese guy who got
| cooked by a megadose of radiation and the doctors wouldn 't
| let him die. That, if there's a torture that you've heard of,
| or any cautionary tale you've seen reported, you are going to
| experience it or have already -- and without learning
| anything at all.
| bccdee wrote:
| The guy in the story has as much free will as anyone does.
| Just because everything's stitched together with time
| travel, doesn't mean the individual instances of the
| character aren't making authentic choices in each moment.
| Free will doesn't mean our choices are non-deterministic
| and detached from our circumstances and history; I don't
| know why that would even be desirable. Compatibilism is the
| only coherent stance on free will.
|
| > and without learning anything at all
|
| Well, you learn something later, when the egg hatches. But
| blank-slate reincarnation also promises that you'll
| completely forget the trauma of being the elephant man, at
| least for the duration of the egg process. Surely the real
| burden would be _remembering_ all those billions of lives
| with only your paltry human mind to bear it.
| A_D_E_P_T wrote:
| > _The guy in the story has as much free will as anyone
| does. Just because everything 's stitched together with
| time travel, doesn't mean the individual instances of the
| character aren't making authentic choices in each moment.
| Free will doesn't mean our choices are non-deterministic
| and detached from our circumstances and history_
|
| Imagine two men. I will make this extreme for sake of
| example: One of them is Saint Francis of Assisi. The
| other is Oskar Dirlewanger, infamous SS war criminal.
|
| Are they, as the story suggests, the same man? Is it the
| case that every choice they made in life can be
| attributed _solely_ to circumstances and history -- and
| that both men, under the same circumstances, would make
| the same choices? (Being, after all, the same man, with
| the same soul.) Thus doesn 't the story presume that
| there is no such thing as personality, and that the
| "soul" is a free rider -- all actions in life coming down
| to sheer biological and circumstantial determinism?
|
| This total erasure of individuality -- with the same
| person doomed to exhibit all moral and ethical extremes
| -- is something I believe every philosopher would call a
| repugnant conclusion.
|
| You can believe in compatibilism and still believe that
| there are actions that are inconsistent with your own
| nature. That, as the story suggests, you _must_ become
| both torturer and tortured is horrifying.
|
| > _blank-slate reincarnation_
|
| At least it never implies, in any religious tradition,
| that you are all of your contemporaries. People would
| rightly recoil from such a teaching.
| rmwaite wrote:
| > every philosopher would call a repugnant conclusion
|
| Just because a conclusion is repugnant doesn't mean it is
| beyond consideration.
| weard_beard wrote:
| The horrifying part, for me at least, might be only 1
| non-predetermined per universe. The rest of "you" is
| "you" putting on the Truman show.
|
| https://rickandmorty.fandom.com/wiki/Central_Finite_Curve
| naikrovek wrote:
| > Surely the real burden would be remembering all those
| billions of lives with only your paltry human mind to
| bear it.
|
| the being going through this in the story is not a human.
| a tiny part of them dips its finger into the universe
| created by the narrator and what is experienced is a
| human life, but the being experiencing those lives is not
| human. the human is the lower dimensional representation
| of the higher-dimensional being that the narrator is
| speaking to.
|
| if I touch a sheet of paper, part of me exists in the
| same plane as the paper, but I am not a piece of paper, I
| am a much more complex being. It is the same for the
| narrator and the person who just died and believed until
| this conversation that they were "merely" a human. the
| humanity of this being is the interface between them and
| their past selves. once they graduate/hatch from this
| egg, they are much larger than the sum of all the lives
| that they have lived. they contain all of those
| experiences, and will remember them all.
| bccdee wrote:
| Right--I agree that they'll be fine once they hatch &
| become a greater being. I was responding to this comment:
|
| > if there's a torture that you've heard of, or any
| cautionary tale you've seen reported, you are going to
| experience it or have already -- and without learning
| anything at all.
|
| which suggests that there's something horrifying about
| the cycles of forgetting that take place inside the egg,
| while the protagonist is still human.
| singleshot_ wrote:
| If you "touch" a piece of paper, aren't your electrons a
| fraction of a distance above the paper, and not coplanar
| at all?
| yetihehe wrote:
| Only if that paper is a perfectly flat and non-elastic
| surface. When you touch real everyday paper, it has
| pretty fuzzy soft layer, some atoms of your finger will
| be below "average" level of that paper's surface.
| IanCal wrote:
| If it were true, the idea that I was Hitler and everyone that
| worked at unit 731 is pretty horrifying.
|
| > There's nothing any more horrifying about this than about
| bog-standard reincarnation.
|
| Under that wouldn't I be one of many going through some
| different lives? Rather that _there is only one person ever_
| who goes through _all lives_.
| bccdee wrote:
| > Rather that there is only one person ever who goes
| through all lives.
|
| So what? They're not really meaningfully one person until
| all the memories get collected. If they each start as a
| blank slate, they're all functionally separate people. It's
| not like they're experiencing loneliness during their lives
| because of any of this.
|
| > If it were true, the idea that I was Hitler and everyone
| that worked at unit 731 is pretty horrifying.
|
| That part is supposed to be uncomfortable, but I don't find
| it existentially horrifying. After all, given that Hitler
| exists, _someone_ had to be him. Surely it 's less
| horrifying for that person to also be all of Hitler's
| victims.
| ivm wrote:
| _> It 's especially funny as the author, with very little
| awareness of what he was writing, tried to strike positive "we
| are all one" notes... And ended up with something that would
| give Ligotti nightmares._
|
| That's German Romanticism which is the invisible 90% of the
| iceberg of the modern perception of religions, New Age ideas,
| and humanistic psychology.
|
| Here's a summary of how the Romantic thought has distorted the
| Western understanding of Buddhist teachings. I highly recommend
| it because once you know its signs, you'll start spotting it
| presence everywhere, not just in Western Buddhism:
|
| https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/PurityOfHeart/Section0009....
| NoMoreNicksLeft wrote:
| >it plays out over a trillion or so years
|
| At least the duration is short.
| flenserboy wrote:
| that would torque me off so bad...
| pavlov wrote:
| I really wish browsers would default to Reader mode for documents
| like this.
|
| It would make "web 1.0" content much more usable, and would
| encourage people to create simple HTML because the default
| styling wouldn't look like crap.
| syncr0 wrote:
| You can set Safari to automatically open all web pages in
| Reader mode. Then for websites you regularly visit and want a
| non reader mode render, you can whitelist them for that.
| agos wrote:
| it's literally two clicks
| pavlov wrote:
| When you know and remember it exists. Most people never find
| the feature.
| xutopia wrote:
| I can't recommend this author enough. Project Hail Mary and The
| Martian are amazing works of science fiction. Project Hail Mary
| is actually amazing as an audiobook.
| maxhille wrote:
| Funny coincidence - I just finished the Project Hail Mary
| audiobook this morning and loved it.
|
| Any recommendations for the next audiobook?
| dmcc365 wrote:
| Mickey7 is pretty good if you enjoyed Project Hail Mary.
| Alternatively, the Murderbot series.
| chrismatheson wrote:
| I can 2nd the murderbot series.
|
| Also there bobiverse series is great IMHO
| thoughtpalette wrote:
| Just finished Mickey7, lot's of fun. I gotta see the movie
| now.
|
| LOVE the Murderbot series, highly recommend.
| dmayle wrote:
| On the vein of similar books, in the late 80s, early 90's a
| read a science fiction anthology that had more or less the
| same exact story as Mickey7.
|
| Humans discover a place (I think on Mars), built by Aliens,
| but it's a deathtrap. So they send someone in to navigate
| the deathtrap using a clone, and a sort of remote control
| (something like Avatar).
|
| Each time the clone dies, the person piloting it survives,
| but has gained the memory of what went wrong, and can try
| again (kind of like Edge of Tomorrow).
|
| The point of the story is the very end, when the pilot
| makes it fully through the space.
|
| Has anoyone every heard of this storay and know the
| name/author? (Bonus points of you know the anthology as
| well)
| dmayle wrote:
| I answered my own question! It's called Rogue Moon (1960)
| by Algis Budry, and was in the anthology The Science
| Fiction Hall of Fame, Volume Two
| tstrimple wrote:
| The main thing keeping me from the murderbot series is the
| value prop. They are incredibly short which doesn't play as
| well with a credit based purchasing system. For seven
| credits I get a little over 20 hours of content. Project
| Hail Mary is 16 hours for one credit.
| heymijo wrote:
| I went into Project Hail Mary knowing nothing beyond it was
| from the author of The Martian. It may have been the most
| enjoyable reading experience I've ever had.
| natebc wrote:
| I'm in the back third of Project Hail Mary now. Same. I went
| into it blind and it's great. I did have to take a break in
| the very beginning just because dealing with my own
| existential crisis was enough that I didn't need a fictional
| one ... lol?
|
| Artemis was good too.
| jpm_sd wrote:
| I enjoyed The Martian (novel and movie) but I didn't care for
| Artemis or Project Hail Mary. I thought the characters and
| dialogue were fairly weak, even though the underlying ideas
| were clever. Also I thought that "main character amnesia" was a
| frustrating plot device (in PHM).
|
| Overall, his authorial voice reminds me a lot of YouTube hosts?
| Perhaps that's just the cultural moment we're in.
| psadauskas wrote:
| I like his concepts, and his stories, but agree about the
| characters. Every single one of them talks like a snarky
| sarcastic white dude. All the side characters in The Martian,
| the teenage girl in Artemis, and the rock alien in Project
| Hail Mary, all speak in the same voice, that of a jokey
| middle-aged dad.
| nartho wrote:
| His stories are always extremely clever and he has an insane
| sense of rythm. But I hate his style, it reads like a giant
| Reddit post. My wife asked why I kept complaining about this
| book I couldn't put down.
| bodine30 wrote:
| I had similar feelings for PHM, but it was hard to put a
| finger on why. I enjoyed it well enough to make it to the
| end, but I think I have a limited appetite for his "authorial
| voice". I read it directly after The Bone Clocks and remember
| thinking I missed David Mitchell's "voice" and wishing there
| were a way to experience books through another author's
| voice. Outside the copyright concerns, this could be an
| interesting use case for AI, a cover band for literature.
| It's definitely the only way we'll ever get Wes Anderson Star
| Wars
| malshe wrote:
| You are absolutely correct, Mary is amazing as an audiobook.
| Loved both his books.
| jjcm wrote:
| Some other recommendations depending on what you liked about
| The Egg/Project Hail Mary/The Martian:
|
| If you liked explorative / conceptual Sci Fi, more for the
| thought exercise than anything else:
|
| - Exhalation by Ted Chiang. A collection of scifi short stories
| that are quite thought provoking. Some sprinklings of religion
| in some of them.
|
| - The Illustrated Man by Ray Bradbury. A classic, also a short
| story collection. Golden age scifi.
|
| - Project Hieroglyph. A collection of authors that partnered
| with Phd students to write short stories based on their
| research papers. Great concept with great stories.
|
| If you liked Andy Weir's focus on engineering/building:
|
| - Bobiverse series by Dennis E. Taylor. A man uploads himself
| into a Von Neummann probe and replicates himself to play
| Factorio among the stars.
|
| - Destiny's Crucible by Olan Thorensen. MC gets sent to an
| alternate earth in a technological past, and attempts to re-
| introduce modern technology and build industry.
| Tenoke wrote:
| I've always liked the story but if I was presented with that
| revelation I'd be questioning to what extent these other me's are
| really me and how really everything else (genetics, environment)
| is shaping behaviour and I'm what? A vessel that gets all the
| memories at the end?
|
| >"Every time you victimized someone," I said, "you were
| victimizing yourself. Every act of kindness you've done, you've
| done to yourself. Every happy and sad moment ever experienced by
| any human was, or will be, experienced by you."
|
| I mean, not really, since _I_ wouldn 't do quite all those things
| as I am now. In this framework _I_ 'm just forced into doing
| those things by the factors going into those particular lives.
| thehappypm wrote:
| 50 billion different innies
| p2detar wrote:
| Back then what I liked about this story was the fact that a
| single "soul" experiences itself across infinite timelines.
|
| What I found interesting though was the temporal like experience
| presented from the pov of God. It doesn't seem like the God in
| the story is omnipotent.
| jpm_sd wrote:
| (2009)
|
| See also:
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Egg_(Weir_short_story)
| aitchnyu wrote:
| Marcus Aurelius was meditating these thoughts in the last 13
| years of his life running between the Germanic and Persian fronts
| while extremely sick. He believed he was one being participating
| in the universal Nous(Mind), and time and outer space yawns
| around his human lifetime.
|
| 4.23 All that is harmony for you, my Universe, is in harmony with
| me as well. Nothing that comes at the right time for you is too
| early or too late for me. Everything is fruit to me that your
| seasons bring, Nature. All things come of you, have their being
| in you, and return to you.
|
| 4.48 Mark how fleeting and paltry is the estate of man -
| yesterday in embryo, tomorrow a mummy or ashes. So for the
| hairsbreadth of time assigned to thee, live rationally, and part
| with life cheerfully, as drops the ripe olive, extolling the
| season that bore it and the tree that matured it.
|
| 7.9 All things are implicated with one another, and the bond is
| holy; and there is hardly anything unconnected with any other
| things. For things have been co-ordinated, and they combine to
| make up the same universe. For there is one universe made up of
| all things, and one god who pervades all things, and one
| substance, and one law, and one reason.
|
| 12.30 Everything harmonizes with me, which is harmonious to thee,
| O Universe. Nothing for me is too early or too late, which is in
| due time for thee. There is one light of the sun, though it is
| interrupted by walls, mountains and infinite other things. There
| is one common substance, though it is distributed among countless
| bodies which have their several qualities. There is one soul,
| though it is distributed among several natures and individual
| limitations. There is one intelligent soul, though it seems to be
| divided.
| ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
| I loved that!
|
| Thanks for posting it.
| voidUpdate wrote:
| I read this some time ago and really enjoyed it, and personally,
| it does align somewhat with how I feel about the world. I don't
| treat it like a bible or anything, but the concept of, at some
| point, being the consciousness inside of everyone, past and
| future, does make a certain amount of sense to me
| geor9e wrote:
| Is there any website of more science fiction extra-short stories
| that are this short? I know sci-fi might not be the preferred
| term for stories that are this philosophical or borderline
| religious, but I don't know a better term.
| ghaff wrote:
| I don't know of a website. But I bet there are published
| collections out there though I don't have one.
| gambiting wrote:
| "The Machine Stops" is one that is always in my memory - not
| quite as short as this, but very short nonetheless. And
| impressive given that it was written in 1909:
|
| https://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~koehl/Teaching/ECS188/PDF_files/...
| skiman10 wrote:
| You might enjoy some of qntm's work[0].
|
| Maybe start with this short ("I Don't Know, Timmy, Being God Is
| a Big Responsibility")[1] since it is similar to The Egg in my
| opinion.
|
| [0] https://qntm.org/fiction [1] https://qntm.org/responsibilit
| siliconc0w wrote:
| I asked Weir about the The Egg at a signing and whether he
| planned to write anything similar- I got a weird vibe back, "I
| shat it out over a weekend" - like be kinda resented it or
| possibly just people asking about it.
| Ashymad wrote:
| Honestly I am not surprised. I imagine he wrote it quickly as
| this fun quirky look at the universe but then it got extremely
| popular, kurzgesatz video released and all. A lot of people
| based their personal beliefs off of the story.
|
| Imagine you write a small story for fun but then it becomes
| nearly a religion. It must be a little frustrating for Andy.
| mariusor wrote:
| Which is strange, because unlike his other works, this one
| actually has something a reader can introspect about instead
| of, you know, just reading "efficacy porn".
| m463 wrote:
| > but then it becomes nearly a religion
|
| Life of Brian when he opens the window...
| croisillon wrote:
| Related, some past submissions:
|
| - 2018, 51 comments https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17145811
|
| - 2014, 153 comments https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7203095
| dang wrote:
| Thanks! Macroexpanded:
|
| _The Egg_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37852535 -
| Oct 2023 (6 comments)
|
| _The Egg_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31687818 -
| June 2022 (1 comment)
|
| _The Egg - In Animation Format_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20856614 - Sept 2019 (1
| comment)
|
| _The Egg (2009)_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17145811 - May 2018 (51
| comments)
|
| _I am Andy Weir, and I wrote "The Egg". AMA_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15673764 - Nov 2017 (1
| comment)
|
| _The Egg (2009)_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7203095 - Feb 2014 (153
| comments)
|
| _The Egg_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1489497 -
| July 2010 (20 comments)
| throw310822 wrote:
| It's basically the same way you train an LLM, forcing them to
| reproduce _all_ human writing. You 'd have to RLHF the being
| produced by this egg to avoid him falling in Hitler patterns all
| the time.
| 0xbadc0de5 wrote:
| Feels vaguely reminiscent of Scott Adams' "God's Debris" which
| was also making the rounds in the 00's. Essentially just
| interesting thought experiments playing with the "what if" idea
| of a higher power.
| fogbeak wrote:
| Reading this on 4chan in high school is what got me into science
| fiction. Brings back memories! Very happy that Andy Weir got his
| due with The Martian.
| okonomiyaki3000 wrote:
| Just the other day I was thinking this hasn't been posted to HN
| for a while. I'm glad to see it again. Although I feel no need
| for religion in my life, I recognize that most people seem to
| need it. So why not this? I think it's better than any of the
| other ones.
| wishinghand wrote:
| Does anyone remember the parody of this where the answer is an
| "abbatoir" and the character also has to be every animal?
| prettyblocks wrote:
| It would be cool to see how this conversation changes after
| various incarnations die.
| OscarCunningham wrote:
| 'Am I to understand that right now, you and I are the same person
| in some sort of meta-egg?'
|
| "Not as far as I know."
|
| 'Then it seems like you're teaching me to be moral for a reason
| that doesn't actually apply in the real world.'
|
| "Get back in the box."
| weard_beard wrote:
| The Show Must Go On.
| vegadw wrote:
| This story makes me cry every time I read it, at the line "You
| were victimizing yourself". It's not an ugly cry, but a sort of
| somber pain. I think humans are predisposed - probably
| evolutionary - to remember the bad more than the good. The world,
| nature, is unkind and our survival doesn't much depend on our
| ability to recall positive feelings beyond procreation and good
| food.
|
| I want, desperately, to be the best steward in providing kindness
| and assistance to anyone and everyone I can within my means while
| also living the most fulfilling life I can and sharing my
| knowledge with others.
|
| If anyone asks me if I'm religious, this is the answer. I've
| always thought of religion - for the rational, at least - to be a
| sort of known double-think. A known suspension of belief as a
| tool. When I need that tool, I think of the egg.
|
| Whenever I think about how cruel someone is being to others, I
| take some solace in imagining that at some point, they too, will
| experience their own cruelty. Not in a "they deserve punishment
| way" but in a "they will understand, someday" way.
| synergy7 wrote:
| Vastly parallel reinforcement-learning-like self-play with no
| obvious in-game real-time feedback loop. No breaks to explicitly
| integrate experience into strategy ("... there's no point to
| doing that <remembering> between each life."). How the
| protagonist learns ("matures") in this game?
| Gene5ive wrote:
| One of my favorite short stories
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