[HN Gopher] ICE Revoking Students' Immigration Statuses Without ...
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ICE Revoking Students' Immigration Statuses Without Their or the
Uni's Knowledge
Author : ColinWright
Score : 66 points
Date : 2025-03-30 22:28 UTC (33 minutes ago)
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| 1270018080 wrote:
| Only true free-speech advocates require students to swear fealty
| to Israel before getting a student visa in America
| mrtksn wrote:
| I know this is a political and touchy subject but IMHO the new
| policies will be a defining moment for the USA and it is relevant
| for tech as US tech is so successful primarily because can access
| the whole world as a market and can attract all the talent it
| needs. The things happening in US is going to break this.
|
| If stuff continues as is, USA will have $1T car company for 350M
| people, $2T company for search and online ads for 350M people and
| $3T company that tells tablets and phones to 350M people.
|
| How is this going to work really?
|
| USA is going to be fine overall I guess, the country has huge
| land and plenty of resources and some of the greatest talent out
| there but do you really want to change your economy in such a
| way? It will be painful, you will lose all your unfair advantage.
| I guess a fairer world is a good thing but why are you doing it?
| johntfella wrote:
| One of many policies that is detrimental. One thing that does
| not seem to be on tech's radar at the moment is what it could
| mean if Trump withholds US funding from WTO
| (https://borderlex.net/2025/03/27/alarm-bells-in-geneva-as-
| us...) and it's implications per TRIPs:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43490291
| light_hue_1 wrote:
| Yes! I can't understand why the media isn't talking about
| TRIPS and all of the other IP protections that the US baked
| into other the trade agreements. This is the only thing that
| matters.
|
| If the US is going to break these agreements, other countries
| will decide that our IP is not worth protecting. All they
| need to do is revert to the laws they had before TRIPS and
| free trade with the US.
|
| It's not just the tech industry. It's movies. It's pharma.
| It's biotech.
|
| This will economically ruin us.
| thfuran wrote:
| >and some of the greatest talent out there
|
| That's because so many of the talented people from here want to
| stay and so many talented people from elsewhere want (and are
| permitted) to come. Both are subject to change.
| bauerm97 wrote:
| It's a seriously dark day in America when our government is
| weaponizing institutions to target political enemies
| threeseed wrote:
| For me that's not the scary part.
|
| It's the fact that the institutions e.g. Congress, Judiciary
| are not able or willing to push back. And so we are seeing
| retribution for First Amendment activities e.g. protests being
| widespread despite it being clearly unconstitutional.
|
| Project 2025 was right in that if you flood the zone the system
| won't be responsive enough to stop you.
| nine_zeros wrote:
| Seriously, what is the difference between USA and China?
|
| When china used to disappear people for politics, there was a lot
| of gloating about how the west is better, America is better.
|
| But is there any difference any longer? America is so close to a
| fascist single party that is just doing things by dictatorship
| and zero accountability or transparency. What is the difference?
| alborzb wrote:
| Some would say that the difference is the USA (for now at
| least) has a free press?
| thinkindie wrote:
| and for how long?
| nine_zeros wrote:
| > Some would say that the difference is the USA (for now at
| least) has a free press?
|
| Does it? Because the white house has been retaliating against
| any press that doesn't show them in a good light - like
| Associated Press.
| perihelions wrote:
| Note: the headline is not talking about _visas_. What they 're
| talking about is a status field the student visa sponsor, the
| university, maintains: "Yes, this person really is a student
| here". The student visas are contingent on the person being a
| continuing student at a qualified institution--a status the
| university certifies. The Administration is, as I parse it,
| fraudulently editing these fields through a backdoor, and then
| using that "They're not an active student at XYZ" status they
| forged as the basis for revoking the visas.
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