[HN Gopher] We are building the next DocuSign
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We are building the next DocuSign
Author : esaidm
Score : 13 points
Date : 2025-03-27 20:51 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| brailsafe wrote:
| Redefining (automatable) fillable PDF documents into a totally
| different form field and email system using string replacement?
| esaidm wrote:
| We take any existing signed document, remove the variables of
| your choice, and create a new, identical document template. You
| can then use it for signature purposes.
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| Additionally, we automatically fill in repetitive information
| using the data we collect.
| brailsafe wrote:
| How does this replace an an official employment form in any
| meaningful way?
| biwills wrote:
| Please add links on your site to your Terms of Service and
| Privacy Policy.
| esaidm wrote:
| Done!
| numbers wrote:
| domains don't matter that much but that missing `i` will trip up
| a lot of people.
| esaidm wrote:
| Yes! We will change it for sure, but that only cost us 10 box.
| But yeah, it causes confussion.
| sangupta wrote:
| Links at the bottom of the site to X/LinkedIn/Contact
| Email/Github are all broken.
| kylephillipsau wrote:
| I read it as snuggly until I realised what it was supposed to
| represent
| lyingnig wrote:
| i read it as "lying nigs" but im dyslexic. misreading things is
| cray cray and hilarious!
| jreynan wrote:
| What's the difference with Docusign, Dropboxsign, etc?
| esaidm wrote:
| We transform the PDF into a template and identify automatically
| the variables. We automatically fill in repetitive information
| using the data we collect in previously docs.
| mmwako wrote:
| this guys are going to rebrand so hard...
| pedalpete wrote:
| I currently use GrabSign, which doesn't have a great UI tbh, but
| I've never tried docusign.
|
| I'm not sure I understand your comparison to traditional process.
|
| It looks like you are not taking a PDF as an input. So I am
| supposed to write my documents in sgnly? Curly braces makes sense
| to engineers, I don't think the average person really understands
| that (though I could be wrong).
|
| Why is what you are doing 10x better than docusign? "Up and
| running within a week?" I was getting documents signed with
| grabsign within 20 mintues. But maybe I'm not the target user,
| but then who is?
|
| Maybe I'm confused about what Docusign does, and I know they do
| more than just manage signatures, but how do most people know/use
| them?
|
| Also the sgnly domain, though nice and short, doesn't give me a
| lot of confidence for a b2b app.
| noodlesUK wrote:
| I don't really understand what this is from the landing page. Is
| it a signature tool where you're signing an arbitrary existing
| document? If so, I need to know whether it's legally appropriate
| for my situation, and that means eIDAS for me.
|
| Alternatively, is it a tool to manage _writing_ contracts and
| other documents, and soliciting legally binding signatures? If
| so, I need to understand it more.
| esaidm wrote:
| No, you upload the PDF and we grab to build a template with the
| inputs of the variables already placed.
| Molitor5901 wrote:
| Digital document signing almost feels like it should be baked
| into email systems by now. Having a separate service to do this
| feel antiquated.
| xnx wrote:
| Google Workspace has it built in
| https://workspace.google.com/resources/esignature/
| DaiPlusPlus wrote:
| > Digital document signing almost feels like it should be baked
| into email systems by now
|
| It is: S/MIME is well-supported.
|
| Anything else is not a "real" signature, as far as I'm
| concerned.
| mc32 wrote:
| SaaS are now adding e-sigs as a feature (Box, Google, etc.)
| Some workflows still need DS but it's fewer and fewer. Box, I
| think, can be CFR11 compliant.
| recursive wrote:
| How do you pronounce it? "We're going to use ess-jee-enn-ell-
| why".
| kulahan wrote:
| I presume it's supposed to be "sign-ally" or something to that
| effect? Really strange choice for a b2b app imo. Seems like
| it'd be better for an iPhone app name than anything.
| esaidm wrote:
| What would you change on the landing?
|
| The idea goes as follows: We take any existing signed document,
| remove the variables of your choice, and create a new, identical
| document template. You can then use it for signature purposes.
| Additionally, we automatically fill in repetitive information
| using the data we collect previously.
| mike_d wrote:
| You can't have an AI that fills in things automatically and
| then expect a signature on that document to be legally binding.
|
| As soon as you modify the content or suggest what someone fills
| in, you are no longer a disinterested third party. Ask any
| notary or go look at DocuSign, they explicitly won't advise you
| on how to complete a form aside from basic things like making
| sure a field isn't blank or contains a number and not a string.
| chiph wrote:
| The current problems we're having are DS covering up adjacent
| text with their input box. You can specify a starting width,
| which helps sometimes. But they have a minimum font size of 9pt
| and minimum input box height of 22px and we often need to go
| smaller.
|
| Why is this important to us? We're filling in official state
| forms and we cannot change them in any noticeable way to give
| their input box more room. Some states have crammed everything
| together and we have to work around their poor design as best we
| can.
|
| That DS provides traceability, viewing history, and cryptographic
| signatures is nice for us, and may help one day in case of a
| lawsuit. It's not a must-have for us, but likely was important
| for them given they originated in the real-estate document area
| (lots of disputes there, I'm guessing)
|
| What could help us is making the input box translucent, or hiding
| it until the user navigates to it (perhaps leave a small marker
| so they know they have to provide a value there).
|
| So far as the templating, we've got that solved with Fluent (nee
| Autotag). Most of their competitors are doing simple word
| replacement (mail-merge) but they allow us to add logic like if-
| else and select-case to our templates. You should look into doing
| that too.
| JumpCrisscross wrote:
| "explained by a voice agent"
|
| Does this really help?
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