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       Show HN: My iOS app to practice sight reading (10 years in the App
       Store)
        
       Hello HN, this has been my personal project for quite some time
       now. It has been a slowly evolving project over the years and its
       core function is for users to expose themselves to progressively
       more difficult lessons of music notes.  NOTE: It is free and there
       are no ads. There is an in app purchase but most of the app doesn't
       require it.
        
       Author : rooster117
       Score  : 74 points
       Date   : 2025-03-23 21:25 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | jkmcf wrote:
       | What a wonderful logo!
       | 
       | I'll see if my daughter is interested, but I'd love a guitar
       | version (hint, hint).
        
         | rooster117 wrote:
         | I appreciate it!
         | 
         | I'd love to add new instruments. I actually have a version
         | which is violin only but it is pretty stale at this point.
        
         | shermantanktop wrote:
         | Check out Tenuto for similar types of learning modes, and that
         | has guitar/fretboard support for some modes.
        
       | devonsolomon wrote:
       | I learned on this. It's near perfect. Nothing to say but thank
       | you!
        
         | rooster117 wrote:
         | Awesome to hear!
        
       | ppetty wrote:
       | That's awesome! I'm not a musician but just impressed by an app
       | with great focus that stands the test of time. Makes me wonder
       | why Apple doesn't have an area for exactly this type of app; the
       | opposite of Latest Apps.
        
         | walterbell wrote:
         | Community could maintain an index.                 awesome-ios-
         | apps-timeless
        
           | kibibu wrote:
           | Might be my pessimistic mood this morning, but I'm curious
           | whether these "awesome x" indices are _actually_ community-
           | owned or whether its code for  "one passionate person sifting
           | through a bunch of garbage until they burn out"
        
             | walterbell wrote:
             | Hopefully the next volunteer extends the work of their
             | predecessor, instead of starting from scratch.
             | 
             | In theory, reputation signals from 'awesome' lists and HN
             | threads could inform search engines, LLMs and app market
             | analytics.
        
       | mortar wrote:
       | Thanks, just downloaded it to try and purchased instantly - great
       | app! Have been "playing" Fur Elise for so many years on piano,
       | but forgot how to read sheet music years ago and didn't quite
       | know how to get back into it. Thought Synthesia would help but
       | struggle at certain parts so the repetition and score based
       | learning will help a lot.
        
         | rooster117 wrote:
         | It'll probably come back to you fast. My app is best to learn
         | the note (letter/octave) of what's on the staff and mixed with
         | practice on a real piano should get you back to reading
        
         | shermantanktop wrote:
         | I am cursed with enough musical memory that if I learn a piece
         | from sheet music, my sight reading literally turns off and I
         | play from some combination of muscle memory and ear. That might
         | sound like a humblebrag, but it's not -it's quite frustrating
         | to "work on reading" and then realize I'm not actually getting
         | better at reading. When I come back to the material later, the
         | short-term musical memory has usually faded and I'm starting
         | over.
         | 
         | That's what comes from playing simpler rock stuff by ear/memory
         | for many years and then moving to large amounts of material
         | which can't be done only by ear.
         | 
         | My solution is to have a large amount of unfamiliar material
         | and just open to a random page and start working things out.
        
           | spunker540 wrote:
           | This may sound crazy but my sight reading improved a lot
           | after I took an ear training class that required me to work
           | in arbitrary clefs. I always knew treble and bass from
           | playing piano, and had really memorized the note positions in
           | each.
           | 
           | When I was suddenly forced to work in tenor, alto, soprano,
           | baritone clefs, I could no longer rely on memorization of
           | note positions. I had to pivot to "reading intervals". A
           | fifth looks the same in any clef, so if you know the current
           | note, and the next note is a fifth above, you know the next
           | note too, clef be damned.
        
       | benoliver999 wrote:
       | Been using this for years now, it's precisely what I needed given
       | that I came to bass clef late in life
        
       | aterp wrote:
       | Anyone have recs for good Android equivalents?
        
         | rooster117 wrote:
         | I get a lot of requests for an Android version. I've never had
         | time but I hope there is something good out there
        
         | punnerud wrote:
         | Not an answer to your question but I have 8 iPhone app on
         | AppStore, and many more on my phone not published. Made an
         | Android app, but it's hard to publish to Google Play compared.
         | Stopped almost at the end in the approval process, because I
         | felt like this platform must really hate developers. Or is it
         | just me?
         | 
         | When I see the stats on paying Android users compared to
         | iPhone, I feel I always will start on iOS and only maybe make
         | to Android if it's successful somewhere else first.
        
         | busymom0 wrote:
         | I made a similar app for both iPhone and Android called Note
         | Flash. Works with microphone and MIDI:
         | 
         | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pranapps.n...
         | 
         | https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/note-flash-music-sight-reading...
        
       | hackerdood wrote:
       | Chiming in to say I downloaded this what feels like ages ago and
       | occasionally come back to it when I'm away from my keyboard for
       | too long, so thank you for this amazing app!
        
       | Almondsetat wrote:
       | Sight reading is equal parts being quick to parse the score and
       | being quick to understand the piece harmonically/rythmically.
       | This is why random exercises or simple songs don't really cut it.
       | 
       | Also, it's all about compromise. When sight reading a serious
       | piece you will almost never be expected or be capable of playing
       | every note. You have to understand what's important and what's
       | feasible, and to do that on the fly you need tons of musical
       | experience.
        
         | coliveira wrote:
         | Yes, sight reading is a misnomer because at some level it is
         | almost impossible to sight read a complex piece. It is not like
         | reading a book where you will be able to read the words
         | correctly as long as you're literate. What you can say is that
         | you're familiar with simple/medium complexity rhythms so you
         | can play them as you read.
        
       | pil0u wrote:
       | This is incredible because it exactly matches my needs. I started
       | learning the piano 3 years ago as an adult, I love it, but my
       | biggest difficulty is reading scores. I do want to practice but
       | also I'm very lazy, I tried to find a tool to help but never
       | found yours before.
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       | Tiny question before I purchase to unlock the microphone feature
       | (which is really what makes sense for me): does the app
       | understands do re mi via microphone?
       | 
       | Thanks for your work.
        
         | rooster117 wrote:
         | The mic works on the standard 440 tuning and converts the input
         | to its midi representation. Trying to understand your question
         | but the mic doesn't really care about the do, re, me but rather
         | that it's the right frequency for the displayed note on the
         | staff. The mic feature is something I'm actively working on
         | improving as it's decent now but not perfect. If you have an
         | instrument with a way to connect to the phone through midi it's
         | the best experience but if you have acoustic then the mic or
         | just the on screen keyboard is the good.
        
           | doctorhandshake wrote:
           | Do you mind if I ask what library or algorithm you're using
           | for pitch estimation?
        
             | rooster117 wrote:
             | currently it's yin
        
           | pil0u wrote:
           | Ha, I thought I could "sing" the notes, like reading them out
           | loud (which is what my mentor suggests me to work on)
        
             | rooster117 wrote:
             | You may be able to sing to it but since it's assuming the
             | instrument to be in tune (piano) it may be slightly off and
             | still register since it's estimating which note is most
             | correct.
        
         | rooster117 wrote:
         | My app appears at the top of a search if you specify sight
         | reading but if you are searching for "learn piano" or similar
         | keywords it will be no where near the top
        
           | pil0u wrote:
           | I just learned via your post the term "sight reading" in
           | English. French words and expressions when it comes to music
           | are very different.
        
       | karol wrote:
       | Amazing!
        
       | MarcelOlsz wrote:
       | How's it compare to SightReadingFactory? Can I use it for
       | trumpet?
        
         | rooster117 wrote:
         | I know what sight reading factory is but I haven't personally
         | used it. In the app you can isolate the Treble staff for
         | practice/lessons so it would work for practice with what you
         | read on trumpet (I believe)
        
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