[HN Gopher] George Foreman has died
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George Foreman has died
Author : wallflower
Score : 300 points
Date : 2025-03-22 02:56 UTC (20 hours ago)
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| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| NYT obit https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/21/sports/george-
| foreman-dea...
| artursapek wrote:
| RIP legend
| momoschili wrote:
| the foreman grills gets a lot of flack but it's a damn good
| cooking utensil and if not for him I'm not sure it would have
| been as publicized as it was.
|
| also a great dad, christian, and boxer
|
| RIP
| fibonachos wrote:
| That little grill got me through many years of apartment living
| where I couldn't have a propane grill.
| Fezzik wrote:
| 5 marriages... 100% Christian. No way to say it better.
| rsyring wrote:
| I don't know what 100% Christian is intended to imply here,
| although it's obviously critical.
|
| Biblical christianity isn't for the perfect or righteous, but
| for sinners. Christ rejoices more over the one sinner that
| repents than the 99 who need no repentance (John 15).
|
| I don't know much about Foreman. But, his fifth marriage did
| last 40 years. Seems like, at some point, his perspective on
| marriage/commitment got more aligned with biblical wisdom.
| orthoxerox wrote:
| Do you think Jacob had his twelve sons with the same woman?
| washadjeffmad wrote:
| What we do today is totally moral and normal, and cultural
| practices prior to what we grew up with are sinful
| barbarism.
| kubb wrote:
| Being a Christian celebrity doesn't require you to stick to
| Christian values. It's much more important to proclaim your
| membership than to live it. It's like wearing a team jersey
| without playing the game. The appearance matters more than
| the practice.
|
| Christianity in America is like a brand - more about identity
| and affiliation than discipleship or doctrine.
| MrMcCall wrote:
| > also a great dad, christian, and boxer
|
| Indeed. Very much so.
|
| You can learn more about him in this conversation one of his
| sons has with comedian Daniel Tosh, who's his neighbor and
| friend:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itWm0ZLwcus
|
| George Foreman III demonstrates how deserving GF was of all his
| success. He and GF3 are the best of humanity. And Tosh being a
| very kind and open-hearted human being, too, makes the
| conversation not only interesting but simply enjoyable,
| especially for its insights into his legendary father's life.
| silisili wrote:
| RIP. Was a big fan of Foreman growing up, even though his initial
| heyday was before my time. Which is one of the reasons I'm fond
| of him today - he was 48 years old when he was last heavyweight
| boxing champ.
|
| Every time I'm feeling "too old" to do something physical, I try
| to remember the baddest man on the planet was older than I am now
| - a fact that is still crazy to achy 'old' me now.
| MrMcCall wrote:
| Same here, and well said, friend.
|
| If you're interested in seeing an interesting conversation one
| of his sons has with brilliant comedian Daniel Tosh, where they
| talk about his legendary father, check out:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itWm0ZLwcus
|
| What a cultured man, raised by a true man of God. George
| Foreman is a testament to the best of humanity, and this one
| son (at least) is a testament to that humanity.
|
| What a life, what a legacy!
| silisili wrote:
| Thanks! It's getting late so I only watched the first 20 mins
| for now, but agreed. He obviously had a great upbringing.
| I'll check out the rest tomorrow.
|
| That aside, I used to love Tosh.0, and didn't even know he
| was still around. I'm a little sad to see him becoming and
| even sounding like Bill Maher. The old edge pusher is gone,
| understandably. We all got old and I hate it :).
| MrMcCall wrote:
| He's no Bill Maher, friend. Tosh despises Trump, because
| Tosh has that surfer chill and believes in being kind.
|
| And I still think he's super funny, if not quite so edgy.
| His "WWJD rubber bracelet" bit has one of my favorite
| punchlines ever.
|
| If you want to see a great (IMO) younger comedian, check
| out Greer Barnes. I discovered him yesterday and I've not
| laughed that hard at a comedian in quite a while. He is
| next-level brilliant.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8alpJV1V9pM
|
| Peace be with you, friend.
| bentobean wrote:
| Wait, I'm confused. Are you both insinuating that Bill
| Maher is a Trump fan?
| silisili wrote:
| I don't even know Maher's politics, I just meant Tosh was
| beginning to sound like and even talk like him(the
| cadence/pausing etc). He used to be a real fast talker.
| One could also argue he's even starting to look that way.
|
| All I meant to imply is that he and we are getting old,
| but it is weird to me how much he sounds like Maher to me
| in that clip.
| bentobean wrote:
| Ah, I see. Thanks for clarifying.
| scop wrote:
| Amen. Having dabbled in martial arts and had the good pleasure
| of hitting my mid thirties, his ability to win at 48 is nothing
| short of jaw dropping. Shouldn't be possible.
| bedhead wrote:
| What a life.
| owlninja wrote:
| You said it, what a legend. Highly recommend the documentary
| "When We Were Kings". RIP Big George.
| racl101 wrote:
| George was a beast. Dominant Boxer. One of the greats.
|
| Also, I loved, loved my Foreman grill. Made so many good meals in
| college.
| cyanbane wrote:
| "Although Foreman never confirmed exactly how much he has earned
| from the endorsement, Salton paid him $138 million in 1999 for
| the right to use his name. Prior to that, he was paid about 40%
| of the profits on each grill sold (earning him $4.5 million a
| month in payouts at its peak), yielding an estimated total of
| over $200 million just from the endorsement through 2011,
| substantially more than he earned as a boxer."
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Foreman
|
| Not sure if luck or stars just aligned. But that is some legit
| naming rights. Kudos to maybe, and I mean it... one of the best
| at it.
| DoesntMatter22 wrote:
| Hulk Hogan told the story of how this was brought to him first
| to endorse but she insisted it was stupid and that instead he
| endorse the Hulk Hogan Thunder Mixer, a handheld blender.
|
| He rolled his eye the whole time he told the story.
| gojomo wrote:
| Who's the 'she' in this story?
| ffhhj wrote:
| Shehulk
| wyldfire wrote:
| Maybe his talent agent?
| DoesntMatter22 wrote:
| Sorry, his wife. I missed a word or two there lol
| dkarl wrote:
| I mean... I consider myself a versatile home cook, and I've
| owned and used more products similar to the Thunder Mixer
| than products similar to the George Foreman grill. Sometimes
| it's a mystery what people buy. Why would you buy a separate
| appliance rather than a ridged grill pan for your stove top?
| fisherjeff wrote:
| Because it knocks out the fat, obviously
| cma wrote:
| Doesn't it cook steaks on both sides at once?
| noduerme wrote:
| yes, and it also drains all the juice out through little
| grooves. The very concept is completely mental. No one
| should abuse a piece of meat that way.
| creato wrote:
| Isn't it equivalent to an actual grill in that regard? I
| haven't heard anyone say that a grill is abusing meat.
| noduerme wrote:
| I always sear meat on a flat top first anyway, but the
| advantage with an actual grill is that it has flames
| which help seal the outside of the meat quickly. Much
| more so than the heat radiating from the Foreman Grill
| grooves. Without a quick sear, you end up with a rubbery
| and dry piece of meat.
| owlninja wrote:
| The foreman grill was not meant for seasoned steak
| cookers, it was typically for college kids or first time
| apartment dwellers. It had it's time and place and it was
| obviously not meant for you in this current time and
| place.
| TwoPhonesOneKid wrote:
| Meats don't really seal unless you're literally tarring
| them with char, and besides, juices leak from the side
| just fine. You really want to steam off the water content
| of a steak to get a better texture and fewer grease-runs.
| The entire meme about searing is literally just a
| decently crunchy texture. Flip steaks as much as you
| want.
|
| The high "sear" temperature mostly implies a faster (and
| easy-to-follow) cook-time, but it still requires salting
| the steak to drain as much moisture as possible. It's
| certainly the smarter texhniwue, but not because it seals
| juices in.
|
| (Also, "searing" a steak does in fact slow the rate of
| water loss, so it is easier to control cook-quality and
| easier to cook whilst distracted. But this undermines my
| main point that water content actually ruins the steak,
| and that you can get the same texture and taste with a
| different technique.)
| noduerme wrote:
| First of all, I'm talking about searing on a flat top.
| Which doesn't char. And it does keep in the moisture.
| Especially if you've got fat on the side of the meat. But
| the best reason to do this is not to hold in the water,
| but to get a consistently even temperature in the final
| steak.
|
| It is _not_ a fast process. The steak needs to be rested
| at room temperature for an hour. Then seared 2 minutes
| each side, maximum heat, seasoning before you turn it
| down. Taken off the flat top or cast iron pan, which you
| deglaze, and pour over the steak. Rested another 30
| minutes. Return to a cast iron pan and put in the oven at
| 450F for 8 minutes for a 1 " steak rare, plus 2-3 minutes
| to medium rare. (11 minutes for a 1" ribeye to MR).
|
| What happens is that the outside is seasoned brown, well
| cooked and most of the juice stays in, but the interior
| fat melts down and you end up cutting through a piece of
| meat that is exactly the same color and temperature from
| the inside to the very edge of the outside.
|
| If you do want to cook on a grill, obviously don't
| grease-stain it by flipping it a lot or trying to sear it
| there. Put your cast iron pan on the grill, sear it in
| that, and then finish it on the grates for flavor and
| char.
| TwoPhonesOneKid wrote:
| I'm just pointing out you can get the same food with a
| quarter (at most) of the prep time and twice the flipping
| if you approach it experimentally at the same heat. Very
| much including basting. If you think steakhouses let
| steaks sit out before cooking them you're nuts--they
| might get nuked for five seconds for approximately the
| same effect. Letting them sit is just a convenience while
| prepping the rest of dinner.
|
| Also, tenderizing the meat is about 10x as effective as
| letting it rest at room temperature. Not only does it
| warm the meat much faster, it reduces cook time, draws
| moisture out, and improves the crust. A minute of beating
| the shit out of the steak can trivially improve on an
| hour of sitting out (as if we have the time most days!).
| The grid-slice pattern is also very effective, even if it
| looks trashy. It's trashy because it's cheap and it works
| so well any cheap steakhouse will do it to obscure the
| shitty produce. Just make sure to do the tenderizing
| before you apply the salt.
|
| Of course if you enjoy cooking, don't let my advice ruin
| it. Food is a lot more enjoyable if you feel satisfied
| eating it. Not everyone needs to optimize for cook-time.
| TwoPhonesOneKid wrote:
| Steaks being cooked naturally drain juice. The entire
| concept of searing a steak "sealing" the juices in
| implies a cooking paradigm that simply doesn't hold up to
| experimentation. You _want_ to cook off water mass from a
| good steak--it 's better flavor, better texture, and
| you're left with far less grease in your soup-catcher.
|
| If you cook enough steaks, it's quite hard to get a dry
| one, and you can get excellent texture and taste despite
| draining the "juice" (which is like 80% of why you salt
| the steak to begin with--moisture = less even and harder
| to control cooking which results in a chewier crust).
| kuhewa wrote:
| We had one on a yacht I crewed that did ecotour sorta
| sails. When we'd catch a small tuna, after the trips I'd
| butterfly it and George Foreman it. No added oil just
| right on the Teflon cooking surface and texture and taste
| would come out sorta like fried chicken. It was great
| chongli wrote:
| I think the issue is that the weight of the lid and top
| grill pressing down on the steak squeezes a lot more
| juice out than if you grilled the steak on regular grill
| that heats from below.
| SAI_Peregrinus wrote:
| You usually press down on it or use a weight with a
| regular grill. You want a crust from a Maillard reaction
| on the outer surfaces, with a less-cooked interior.
| chongli wrote:
| I do not do that. I use the reverse sear technique
| popularized by Kenji Lopez-Alt. This involves heating the
| steak to near-doneness over indirect heat, followed by an
| intense sear over direct heat. A brief rest period in
| between allows an even better sear, as the surface has a
| bit of time to dry out and the internal temperature to
| drop a bit, enabling more time over high heat.
| cma wrote:
| A ridged grill pan like OP suggested does the same, or to
| the extent it collects underneath it steams part of your
| steak, or if it fills to the point it is touching the
| steak again it partly boils it for some of the cook time.
| The Foreman grill sears it more like a real open grill by
| letting the water drain away instead of having to boil
| off for part of the cooking. A regular flat pan does some
| of this too since the water is pushed out to the sides
| faster and boils off away from the steak letting it sear
| better.
| emeril wrote:
| I used to only use one side of the grille and usually not
| close it for most things where I cared about retaining
| the moisture
| noduerme wrote:
| I asked my ex once why she owned a bullet blender instead
| of a normal blender, and her response was "not for drugs, I
| just saw the infomercial"
| zizee wrote:
| Normal blenders have substantially more cleanup work
| involved.
| noduerme wrote:
| But they also don't break as often. And can hold a larger
| capacity. And don't spill. Admittedly, the thought of
| cleanup has put me off the occasional late night
| margarita...
| philwelch wrote:
| If you have a powerful enough blender like a Blendtec or
| Vitamix you can just put soap and water in it and run the
| blender itself to clean it.
| philiplu wrote:
| Yep. I paid something like $650 for a Vitablend at a
| restaurant supply store about 20 years ago. That's the
| commercial version of a Vitamix. Thing is a tank, and has
| blended many many gallons of soups, smoothies, grain into
| flour, etc. over the years. Cleanup is hot water and a
| couple squirts of dishwasher liquid and run it on high a
| few seconds. Had to replace the jar a few years ago, but
| the base will outlive me.
| kjellsbells wrote:
| The other huge advantage: you can get parts for decades.
| With good kitchen gear you want to buy it once for life.
| Need a new cap, or jug, for a 2001 model? No big deal.
| You dont get that with the stuff from Target. (It is also
| not correlated to price, eg my zojirushi rice cooker
| offers the same capability but was way cheaper than the
| fancy korean rice cookers in the store.)
| philiplu wrote:
| Past the edit time, but I had the name wrong. It's a
| Vita-Prep 3, not Vitablend, that's the commercial model I
| bought.
| bombcar wrote:
| The downside is they're louder than a prop plane doing a
| run up.
|
| There are some with sound insulation covers.
|
| But the blendtec is one of my best purchases ever -
| especially in "I never have to think about this again".
| brudgers wrote:
| I have both a cast iron grill pan and a Forman. I use the
| Forman frequently because it heats up fast, cleans easy,
| and reliably cooks both sides at once...without oil, butter
| etc.
|
| The grill pan has none of those attributes and can't press
| a grilled cheese.
|
| Yes it takes up counter space and is ultimately going to
| the landfill. I wish that were otherwise, but for me, they
| aren't deal breakers.
| jasonwatkinspdx wrote:
| Some friends of mine back then had a reason I think may
| have been pretty common: they lived an apartment building
| that didn't allow combustion grills on the balconies. And
| coincidentally this sort of rental property is exactly the
| type to have an absolutely fake junk "extractor" for
| handling smoke in the kitchen. So they could put the
| Foreman on the patio and do an okish job with some steaks
| or burgers without smoking up the whole place.
| kurttheviking wrote:
| This was exactly my reason when I lived in a tiny
| apartment in Boston having no exhaust or fan in the
| kitchen itself. Put the Foreman Grill by a window with
| some burgers cooking, job done.
| bsenftner wrote:
| There's warm weekends in Boston when strolling along one
| can look into the alleys and see a dozen Foremen Grills
| in action on the fire escapes. Fond memories of those
| days.
| bluedino wrote:
| Apartment dweller here who misses his Weber and
| Blackstone.
|
| A regular pan on a hot plate or portable induction hob
| makes a far, far better steak than a Foreman.
|
| I'd be a crime to put a decent steak on one of those
| things.
| astura wrote:
| People were cooking burgers and chicken on these things,
| no steak.
|
| Also, George Foreman grills were popular in the late
| 90s/early 2000s, before induction hobs were really much
| of a thing.
| weinzierl wrote:
| Maybe precisely because the guy endorsing one product is
| much more relatable than the guy endorsing the other.
|
| Nothing against Hulk Hogan, he is certainly one of a kind,
| but when it comes to my food I'd take advice from a down to
| earth type like Foreman a thousand times over that from a
| persona as detached from real life as Hogan's.
| TwoPhonesOneKid wrote:
| Hulk Hogan also destroyed gawker because he was too cowardish
| to admit he's a sex freak. Obviously Peter Thiel was involved
| because he's too cowardish to admit he's gay, but the
| takeaway is that our society is run by toddlers who never
| learned to regulate their emotions (let alone manage the
| wealth a capitalist society allegedly demands. Eg people
| outside of Buffet demanding to be taxed more and Chuck Feeney
| making the gates foundation look like money-grubbing
| assholes).
| noduerme wrote:
| It's interesting that we ended up with Hogan, Ventura, and
| Trump as figures in our politics. I feel like the last time
| a republic got to that point, there was a lot of lead in
| the water. I guess now it's mostly plastic in the brain.
| TwoPhonesOneKid wrote:
| Yea it turns out when you divorce politics from anything
| that matters it just becomes reality tv. Americans are
| too moronic to wield the power they claim today so it's
| hard to feel anything negative about this.
| somenameforme wrote:
| I'm not sure it's fair to mock the public figures,
| because it's not like the guys in between them were
| anything particularly remarkable either. Democracy
| doesn't select skilled leaders, it selects charismatic
| ones with 'flexible moral values' of the sort that are
| useful for gaining sufficient backers. It's fairly
| predictable that democracies with relatively wide
| suffrage would trend towards electing pop figures.
|
| This also is exactly democracy was mostly felt to be an
| unsustainable system by the ancient philosophers. And in
| reading Plato's assessment of democracy, and its cycles,
| in "The Republic", he sounds like much more like a
| prophet than a philosopher.
| pests wrote:
| Eh, we had Reagan and Schwarzenegger and others before
| too
| wqaatwt wrote:
| They put in some effort to not behave like clowns after
| getting elected, though
| zimpenfish wrote:
| Schwarzenegger, maybe, but Reagan? The man was a horror
| show as president.
| wqaatwt wrote:
| Not sure, I'm a bit too young but the standards seem to
| have been much higher back in those days. Reagan's
| [public] behavior would still be pretty tame nowadays.
|
| Of course broadcasting your deranged random thoughts to
| the whole world in the middle of the night wasn't really
| and option and listening to Nixon's tapes the way they
| behaved in private was well.. quite something. I don't
| even believe that Nixon was especially egregious either
| he just decided to record everything anyone said in his
| office due to whatever reasons.
|
| And then you had career politicians like Johnson who
| might have been even more vulgar than Trump..
| zimpenfish wrote:
| > Not sure, I'm a bit too young
|
| I, sadly, am not and he was a horror show.
|
| > but the standards seem to have been much higher back in
| those days.
|
| He was a service-cutting, union-busting, lunatic military
| hawk guided by Nancy's astrologer. Sure, he's not as
| overtly and in-your-face as bad as Trump (who could be?)
| but that doesn't preclude him being a horror show in and
| of himself.
| epistasis wrote:
| Don't forget Schwarzenegger too, but both he and Ventura
| are objectively less evil than Thiel.
| fakedang wrote:
| Are we forgetting the original one, Ronald Reagan? Guy
| was a literal middling actor, whose only claim to fame
| was snitching on Communist sympathizers in Hollywood when
| it was cool.
| fwip wrote:
| I'm pretty sure all of them, as well as the most reliable
| voter age bracket, all grew up with lead in the gasoline
| still.
| TwoPhonesOneKid wrote:
| This theory has held up poorly to other theories, such as
| the federal legalization of abortion. Positing a single
| cause, even a single dominating cause, is an incredibly,
| incredibly hard claim to demonstrate. I do believe that
| unleading gasoline had widespread social impacts, but
| this narrative is just lazy reduction with no benefit.
|
| Personally, I think the easiest theory is simply economic
| prosperity. Most American problems these days can be
| described in terms of relationship to wealth. changes in
| education take decades to reflect in aggregate
| effectiveness. If nothing changes, I think we'll be
| facing a similarly-violent time period for likely the
| rest of our lives, even if we aren't there yet.
| epistasis wrote:
| Gawker destroyed Gawker, they acted like toddlers
| themselves and lost in a way that seemed like they were
| trying to.
| TwoPhonesOneKid wrote:
| Gawker still acted more mature in terms of the defamatory
| content than any given social network. This is as clear a
| case of revenge-murder as you can find. I just want to
| know who convinced Hulk Hogan anyone cares about him who
| doesn't already love him. As far as I know he's still the
| mustache guy of unknown import who was in that funny
| nanny movie in the nineties I saw at age four. who cares
| if he swings?
|
| This was obviously about a man's insecurity leveraging
| the courts to destroy a publicly-valuable business beyond
| any reasonable conception of justice. Somehow the new
| york times was never held to the same standard when they
| published blatant lies and enabled the invasion of iraq
| and a million murdered.
| janderson215 wrote:
| >> publicly-valuable business
|
| "Valuable" is doing a lot of work here. This is a tabloid
| you're talking about. This is not an institution like NYT
| or WaPo.
| TwoPhonesOneKid wrote:
| Gawker was a far more valuable institution than both of
| the above. I'm not sure how you could claim otherwise:
| both papers just regurgitate ap headlines with
| misanthropic assholes managing the editing. Gawker at
| least managed to break news and contribute to discourse
| beyond the ivy-league toadies that contribute nothing
| substantial beyond dogmatic reverwnce for broken
| institutions that were wildly out of date a hundred years
| ago.
|
| Centrist idiots blathering about institutional integrity
| and decorum destroyed this country. I refuse to let them
| gain power again. I far prefer gossip rags to imperial
| stooges: at least they're honest about their dishonesty.
| They also never stooped to the level of the new york
| times endorsing an obviously illegal invasion.
|
| Granted, both are equally willing to cater towards the
| american demand for blood rather than justice. But at
| least I can blame the poeple actually at the capitol for
| january sixth. Who the hell can I blame for the mass-
| complacency and dogmatism of college-educated liberals
| aside from the very same ignorant mass? Until a better
| scapegoat arrives, the editorial boards of ivy-league-
| catering newspapers will have to do.
|
| Why do people not read manufacturing consent? It's the
| only text american adults should be reading. Everything
| else doesn't matter.
| jrmg wrote:
| It was more than just Gawker, it was a whole collection
| of blogs that I'd say were indeed 'valuable'. The whole
| story is too much to convey in a post here, but Wikipedia
| has good (or, at least, comprehensive) articles about
| it.*
|
| I'm what TwoPhonesOneKid calls a 'centrist idiot' in
| their peer comment (hey, look, I'm treating them with
| _decorum_!), and I don't think it was more valuable than
| the NYT, but Gawker Media was a blog staple with a wide
| reach, and those blogs did real journalism in a wide
| range of fields in addition to click bait. Some of them
| arguably recovered under new ownership, but many did not.
|
| * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gawker_Media,
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollea_v._Gawker
| epistasis wrote:
| Here is a very brief excerpt from a lot of shocking
| testimony from Gawker's editor; it was Gawker's own self-
| destructive behavior that destroyed them. Without
| testimony like this they would still be operating:
|
| > "Can you imagine a situation where a celebrity sex tape
| would not be newsworthy?" asked the lawyer, Douglas E.
| Mirell.
|
| > "If they were a child," Mr. Daulerio replied.
|
| > "Under what age?" the lawyer pressed.
|
| > "Four."
|
| https://archive.is/2016.03.10-033848/http://www.nytimes.c
| om/...
| Dwedit wrote:
| I think the multiple N-bombs in the tape were the much
| bigger problem.
| vasco wrote:
| Weird attribution of morality when buffet gave $40B to the
| gates foundation. Also, aren't we all toddlers who never
| learned to regulate their emotions? You and me just cause
| less hubris because we don't have as much power and the
| time to convince ourselves we deserve it.
| nemo44x wrote:
| Gawker destroyed itself because they let a reckless drug
| addict make editorial decisions while high and drunk which
| ended in the demise of the company. Fortunately that editor
| has recovered and has a neat blog/newsletter that focuses
| on substance abuse.
| astura wrote:
| Hulk Hogan is also a compulsive liar, so I don't believe this
| story.
| jfrbfbreudh wrote:
| To the downvoters: Hogan is a notorious liar and definitely
| lied about the grill story.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AukVofRrSP8
|
| If you have some time to kill, this is a fun video to
| watch. Otherwise, you can just google his long list of
| lies.
| Uptrenda wrote:
| Man, those grills are useful. What I like about their
| engineering is you can run them on a typical kitchen circuit
| without worrying about a circuit breaker being triggered. This
| is not always true with other appliances. Typically stuff that
| can heat is very power consuming. Even washing machines and
| stuff like that can sometimes trip breakers (heat + spin). So
| yeah, it can be convenient.
| washadjeffmad wrote:
| They were also incredibly easy to clean. Whoever designed it
| was intimately aware of both the struggle of cleaning a grill
| grate and not being able to fit pans in dishwasher or
| standard kitchen sink.
| kevin_thibedeau wrote:
| The predecessors to the Salton design in the 80s suffered
| this problem. The hot sandwich makers and grills with no
| drainage had depressions that were hard to clean. They
| learned from the flawed competition.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5JchC0nQcM
| tomrod wrote:
| RIP man. You did some great things!
| monksy wrote:
| I loved his participation in "Better Late than never" with henry
| winkler, shatner, and terry bradshaw.
|
| RIP
| roflchoppa wrote:
| Time to pull out Jack LaLanne power juicer, and some chicken
| thighs. RIP.
| orionblastar wrote:
| One of the greatest boxers, rest in peace!
| hannasm wrote:
| My condolences to everyone affected.
|
| In a gerontological context: It would interesting to understand
| more about his genealogy. Does the age of 76 mark an above or
| below average age in his family and their historical lifespan?
|
| As someone who has experienced great success in life, and also
| been (at least at one point) in peak physical shape, the cause of
| his demise seems especially interesting to me.
| rank0 wrote:
| RIP. My favorite sports story. Heavyweight champ at 25/28 and 45.
| MrMcCall wrote:
| It's a great story, for sure, and I think I watched it live.
| The way he let his lead left jab linger to cover Moorer's eyes
| and then slipped in his hammer of a right to KHTFO was
| brilliant.
|
| But I'm partial to Billy Mills 1964 10km gold medal in Tokyo. I
| _love_ how the co-announcer loses his mind on the American
| broadcast of the race, because the two favorites were favored
| so heavily.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVlKVWFmfhk
|
| It's my favorite sports call of all-time, too.
|
| Billy Mills is a Native American who faced poverty on his
| reservation and cruel racism in college. A true American hero.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Mills
| dkarl wrote:
| I didn't think much about George Foreman until I watched When We
| Were Kings. For me, he was just as interesting as Ali, and I was
| so impressed with how he returned and reinvented himself after
| the loss to Ali that he was my personal reference point for
| resilience and personal evolution. RIP.
| JKCalhoun wrote:
| Yep. Highly recommend "When We Were Kings".
| tombert wrote:
| I didn't know who George Foreman was a little kid, so I saw him
| in the commercials for the George Foreman Grill and assumed that
| he was the inventor.
|
| I was very confused when I, at age 11, read a comic published in
| 1990 (I think) and saw an advertisement for (I think) a boxing
| video game with George Foreman on the cover. I thought "huh, I
| wonder if he's related to the guy who invented that grill on TV".
|
| I asked my mom and she laughed, and that day I truly learned
| about celebrity endorsements.
| bdangubic wrote:
| I can live 50 lifetimes and it wouldn't be enough to understand
| celebrity endorsements... Foreman was one of my favorite
| athletes growing up but unless he was the greatest chef on
| earth I wouldn't touch his grill with a wooden stick
| tombert wrote:
| I actually had one for a couple years when I lived alone in a
| fairly small apartment. I really liked it; it cooked
| hamburgers well enough and it was super cheap, like $15-20
| when I bought it during a sale.
|
| Obviously a full-sized grill would have been better, but I
| didn't really have that as an option in my apartment. It was
| easy to clean, cooked stuff relatively quickly, and neatly
| fit right next to my toaster. I think it's a good product for
| what it is.
|
| Why they got a retired boxer to promote it, I have no idea.
| MrMcCall wrote:
| He was an affable and funny man, who also happened to be a
| boxing great.
|
| What made him so affable was his deep humanity and
| kindness.
|
| And the endorsement worked, for sure!
| tombert wrote:
| Oh no question, I saw him in interviews years later and
| he seemed like a pretty decent dude. He also made fun of
| himself on King of the Hill, which always has my eternal
| respect.
|
| And the endorsement definitely worked. It's possible that
| the grill might have still been successful without his
| branding, but we don't know that what-if, we just know
| that the grills that had his branding definitely were
| successful.
| mc32 wrote:
| He's an everyday man grilling in the backyard with his kids
| and buddies. To the day he died, He had a very clean image,
| so no baggage and a whole lot of goodwill. What more do you
| want from a pitchman?
| silisili wrote:
| I get that re: celebrity endorsements, I've never understood
| why someone would buy a product just because a celebrity is
| in the commercials.
|
| Now, that out of the way, the Foreman Grill was/is? a nifty
| little product that actually worked really well. I was gifted
| one, and despite having a really nice grill and big yard,
| sometimes I just want to be quick and lazy and bang something
| out.
| ocdtrekkie wrote:
| I mean I am sure the endorsement gave it a recognized name,
| but people forget it was basically the Instant Pot if its
| day. You could buy George Foreman grill cookbooks in
| stores. It very much became its own thing, to the point
| many people know of George Foreman because of the grill he
| endorsed.
| spike021 wrote:
| as another comment said, it makes for a decent indoors
| apartment grill. i used to use one all the time to make
| hamburgers or grilled cheese in college.
| borgdefenser wrote:
| I always thought the same until I got one.
|
| It is a really good product.
|
| It especially stands out if on a diet and going to eat a lot
| of chicken breast.
|
| Steak I wouldn't cook in it but it makes great chicken.
| Especially on a diet that you aren't going to add much else
| calorie wise with how you cook it.
| adabyron wrote:
| The goal of the endorsement is to catch your attention
| through entertainment.
|
| Then you need something to trigger them to say yes, I want
| that.
|
| Aside - many people want something easy for them to use,
| which this thing was. Julia Child's success is a great lesson
| of a very good chef making it simple & showing mistakes.
| Clubber wrote:
| I had one in college in the 90s that still works to this day.
| wileydragonfly wrote:
| Smoking up the dorms and tripping breakers...
| brudgers wrote:
| Recommended George Foreman movie, _When we were Kings_.
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_We_Were_Kings
| zem wrote:
| I only just discovered that he didn't invent or at least own
| the company that made the grill. Not being American, I had no
| real idea who he was outside of it.
| nomilk wrote:
| For anyone curious this is the product (and catch phrase) he was
| most well known for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tABjjmd_XsE
| ks2048 wrote:
| Besides boxing and his grill, the thing I always remembered about
| him was that he named all 5 of his sons "George". (I see on
| wikipedia, they have numbers and nicknames).
| kikokikokiko wrote:
| if anyone wants to block the annoying troll spammer that invaded
| hackernews today, please put this rule on your personal filters
| on ublock origin:
|
| ##.comtr.athing:has-text('bschmidt')
| kikokikokiko wrote:
| if anyone wants to block the annoying troll spammer that invaded
| hackernews today, please put this rule on your personal filters
| on ublock origin:
|
| ##.comtr.athing:has-text('bschmidt')
| asveikau wrote:
| Wow, I browse with showdead and I see it ...
|
| I can understand having criticisms of HN and pg, and I
| understand being harshly critical when you find a serious
| security problem, but surely there's a better way to express
| both of these.
| lovich wrote:
| Wasn't the whole white/grey hat ethos based on the idea that
| if a security flaw exists, someone will use it, so we can
| help everyone by making them public back doors instead of
| secret backdoors so anyone who cared about security would
| know what to fix.
|
| This guy is annoying, but his behavior seems in line with
| that
| Simon_O_Rourke wrote:
| A good guy and all around gentleman. My uncle Bryan met him in
| Topeka in the early 80s and encouraged his career in photography
| by posing for a few "fighting stance" photos for the local paper.
| somenameforme wrote:
| George Foreman is dead. Long live George Foreman!
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Foreman#Personal_life_a...
| aucisson_masque wrote:
| What he did in 1987 Will always be remembered.
|
| Truly a masterpiece of ring iq against sheer strength and
| stamina.
| johndhi wrote:
| As a boxing fan, Foreman is special.
|
| So many brutal fights but sharp as a tack, mentally, until the
| end.
|
| Such longevity - became champ again after so many years away from
| the sport.
|
| Such a businessman.
|
| From all accounts, such a kind person.
|
| What an impact.
| hash872 wrote:
| RIP George Foreman.
|
| As a former combat sports fan, I find it increasingly difficult
| to watch. These guys (and gals) are doing enormous brain damage
| to themselves & their opponents. Foreman seemed to have been an
| outlier that came out OK, but listen to the slurring & garbled
| speech that comes from any other old fighter. I know someone
| who's a friend with a longtime UFC fighter- he had an anecdote
| about the guy putting his kids to bed and temporarily forgetting
| their names. Great fights are very entertaining, but ethically I
| really find it difficult to be a fan these days
| SecretDreams wrote:
| This, but also extended to American football.
|
| These individuals are well compensated, but many are signing up
| for much shorter lives.
| AbstractH24 wrote:
| It's amazing how long it's taken football to fall from fame
| for this reason, like boxing did.
|
| Not certain it'll ever happen. At least not for the
| foreseeable future.
| lurn_mor wrote:
| I think most folk would gladly shorten their lifespan by
| decades for a million dollars today - the ultimate sacrifice
| for future generational wealth? Not that a million gets you
| anything substantial anymore...
| wileydragonfly wrote:
| Soccer players suffer more concussions and they aren't paid
| much.
|
| What do?
| genocidicbunny wrote:
| Personally, I would be interested to see a type of soccer
| where you can only use the feet -- head and upper body
| contact would be disallowed. It won't be the same game, but
| it would be kind of fun to see how players would adapt to
| those rules. There would probably be quite a bit more
| acrobatics involved to handle the ball being in the air.
| genocidicbunny wrote:
| The ones that are well compensated are the ones that survived
| high school and probably college football, where they weren't
| really compensated that much at all.
|
| In high school, the football coaches would nag me at the
| beginning of the football season to join the team --
| understandable since I was an example of the kind of wall of
| muscle and flesh you wanted in your defensive lines. I never
| joined because it didn't seem like much fun to me to be
| constantly slamming into other guys of that size.
|
| More recently, I ran into one of the guys who did join the
| team, played defensive tackle, and went on to also play in
| college. Having also relatively recently seen up-close the
| effects of TBI, alzheimers, dementia -- even a short
| interaction made it obvious he was suffering heavily from
| hitting his head so much; the sad part is that he's the same
| age as me, and that by the time I hit middle age, he's
| probably going to be dead. Well, that's one of the sad parts,
| the other big one is that his reward for all that is two jobs
| in retail to try to make ends meet because he never got paid
| much for playing, and the TBIs made it hard to find a high-
| paying career.
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