[HN Gopher] Blue Ghost lander captures sunset shots on moon befo...
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       Blue Ghost lander captures sunset shots on moon before falling
       silent
        
       Author : pseudolus
       Score  : 60 points
       Date   : 2025-03-19 10:45 UTC (3 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (phys.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (phys.org)
        
       | perihelions wrote:
       | Here's the other photos of Earth eclipses seen from the moon,
       | 
       | https://fosstodon.org/@AkaSci/114163135356046535
        
       | celeritascelery wrote:
       | I am curious what causes these landers to fail in the bitter cold
       | of night? Is it the batteries? It seems like circuitry should be
       | fine.
        
         | looperhacks wrote:
         | The moon gets _really_ cold, way below spec for most
         | electronics. That's why sensitive parts are sometimes in a
         | heating component, but that also depends on the battery. And
         | yes, cold batteries might not recover properly.
        
           | celeritascelery wrote:
           | Is it the actual silicon that can't handle it, or is
           | contraction in joints and connections that breaks?
        
           | atkailash wrote:
           | Meanwhile voyager is beyond the solar system. I don't see why
           | they didn't use something that's not solar so they aren't
           | just littering the moon
        
             | amenghra wrote:
             | The moon is huge compared to a single thing we can
             | currently send there. Comparatively, we are "littering" our
             | own atmosphere a ton more during liftoff.
        
             | alwa wrote:
             | I can't help but suspect Starship's recent run of
             | spectacular explosions might frustrate efforts to launch
             | more nuclear-powered craft like the Voyagers too soon...
        
             | DarmokJalad1701 wrote:
             | > Meanwhile voyager is beyond the solar system
             | 
             | Which is powered by Pu-238 - something which is in short
             | supply nowadays, extremely expensive and pretty much
             | inaccessible for a private company like Firefly who built
             | the Blue Ghost lander.
             | 
             | > I don't see why they didn't use something that's not
             | solar
             | 
             | Cost. NASA paid Firefly $101.5M for the Blue-Ghost 1
             | contract [1]. Just the RTG used on the MSL Mars Lander cost
             | $109M [2] (not counting the R&D costs).
             | 
             | > so they aren't just littering the moon
             | 
             | Well, right now it is harming no one. They can only be seen
             | by cameras orbiting the moon. If and when humanity starts
             | living on the moon, these landers will go in museums and
             | will no longer be "litter".
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             | [1] https://spaceflightnow.com/2025/03/18/firefly-
             | aerospaces-blu...
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             | [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-
             | mission_radioisotope_the...
        
       | crazygringo wrote:
       | I don't understand these photos at all. Why does it look like
       | there are two suns in two of the photos -- one at the horizon and
       | one above?
       | 
       | Is one of them lens flare or something? I don't think the top one
       | could be an overexposed earth because we're obviously looking at
       | the earth's dark side. And in the other photo (middle in the
       | galley) it looks like a little bit of the earth is eclipsing the
       | second sun.
        
         | zokier wrote:
         | > I don't think the top one could be an overexposed earth
         | because we're obviously looking at the earth's dark side
         | 
         | It's Earth. Venus is also visible as small dot.
        
           | verisimi wrote:
           | No stars though.
        
             | taberiand wrote:
             | You don't usually see stars during the day
        
         | JumpCrisscross wrote:
         | Sun on the horizon, Earth above it. (See caption.)
        
         | croisillon wrote:
         | Eu so queria te contar
         | 
         | Que eu fui la fora e vi dois sois num dia
         | 
         | E a vida que ardia sem explicacao
        
           | gus_massa wrote:
           | [This is part of the lyric of a song
           | https://www.musixmatch.com/es/letras/C%C3%A1ssia-
           | Eller/O-Seg... This kind of comments are usually downvoted
           | here.]
        
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