[HN Gopher] Scoping a Local-First Image Archive
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       Scoping a Local-First Image Archive
        
       Author : stog
       Score  : 22 points
       Date   : 2025-03-19 19:43 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | wlesieutre wrote:
       | I remember a Mac app years ago that had nearly this exact same
       | pitch, but stopped development because it wasn't making enough
       | sales and the developer didn't want to pursue it just as a hobby
       | project.
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       | Just now I found FlowVision which looks like a similar concept,
       | but I don't think that was the one I'm thinking of.
       | 
       | https://github.com/netdcy/FlowVision?tab=readme-ov-file
       | 
       | Anybody know what app I'm trying to remember?
        
         | stog wrote:
         | I don't know the project you mentioned first, but it's a shame
         | they stopped developing due to sales.
         | 
         | FlowVision looks brilliant and an almost perfect client for my
         | needs - thanks for sharing. It's a very similar concept to what
         | I'm trying to acheive with my project but with mine I'm trying
         | to focus on having the output suitable for archiving with no
         | dependecies/app installs - all the user would need is a web
         | browser.
         | 
         | The idea is that as long as browsers are about, you (or anyone)
         | can use the viewer. The general idea is that once it's built it
         | would be put on an SSD or something and in years to come can be
         | plugged in and viewed by clicking a .html file. Sticking to
         | plain old HTML and CSS in the output has proved pretty resilent
         | over the last 30 years.
         | 
         | I'll be sticking the code on GitHub shortly under MIT and
         | people can do what they want with it (hopefully make it faster,
         | and more reliable without bloating it).
        
       | kingo55 wrote:
       | I love the idea of having access to your own personal data in
       | plain formats like this. Just like with plain text note taking,
       | and being able to run local AI models against your personal
       | notes, I imagine one day running local AI models over your image
       | data.
        
       | pscanf wrote:
       | Hurray for this approach! I want most software that works with my
       | personal data to work like that. And I'm actually working on a
       | hobby project to make it possible: a local database + platform to
       | run "local" apps on it.
       | 
       | I haven't gotten to implementing the data layer yet, but my idea
       | was indeed to go for "simple files in folders". But I'm
       | wondering, what format should I use for files containing
       | structured data used by a specific app? For a photo app, using
       | image formats is the obvious and easy choice. But what about, for
       | example, a meal tracking app? What file format would you use to
       | store nutrition facts about a certain food?
       | 
       | My first thought is JSON, but that's not really user-friendly.
       | For a non-technical user a JSON file is basically useless without
       | the app that generated it. YAML is maybe a bit less cryptic for a
       | non-technical user, but still mostly useless. A TXT with a
       | specific, more user-friendly format? Then you risk the app
       | breaking because the user changed its content. And still, as a
       | user what would I do with a bunch of TXT files containing
       | nutrition facts? Without the app that generated them, there's a
       | high chance they become useless.
       | 
       | My project also wants to solve that issue actually, ensuring that
       | you always retain access to the apps that generated those files.
       | But I would love to find a way to store data so that it keeps
       | being useful and accessible even "app-less".
        
       | clueless wrote:
       | I've been thinking on working on something exactly like this for
       | months and happy to see the work started here.
       | 
       | The big thing I'd love to add is smarter llm based searching
       | ability (using face-detection, lon/lat based location data
       | extracted from photos, overall image description based on AI,
       | etc) similar to how google photo does it.
       | 
       | Now the question is, what local/small llm would be best for this?
        
       | mentalgear wrote:
       | Lo-fi for the win! Also markdown or JSON pairs nicely.
        
       | creer wrote:
       | > A plain text file (meta.md) can store optional metadata and is
       | readable simply by opening it
       | 
       | To me, "readable" is not enough. Entering this data-augmentation
       | text is time consuming: it should be as easy as possible.
       | Including "augmenting" in batches (for this photo and that one
       | and these 200 others).
       | 
       | Markdown in particular is not it - augmenting is not about
       | presentation but about something like unstructured input of
       | structured data. Or unstructured input of data which is
       | systematic enough that it can be exploited by structured data
       | retrieval. For example, "my finished art" or "my clothing
       | inspiration" even when there is not strictly one way that these
       | are tagged (yet).
       | 
       | To me, this means that super-efficient input of "somewhat
       | structured" data is the missing link. It's a user-interface issue
       | (NOT database screens) and a data language issue (NOT json or
       | markdown).
       | 
       | By all means "AI" help is welcome - if it can be local.
        
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