[HN Gopher] The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold ...
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       The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece
        
       Author : adrian_mrd
       Score  : 178 points
       Date   : 2025-03-14 21:18 UTC (4 days ago)
        
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       | moomin wrote:
       | I don't know if I'd go quite so far, but it is very good. The
       | Chamberlain remains a piece of work, and Lena Headey sometimes
       | feels like she's still on the set of Game of Thrones.
        
       | mjamesaustin wrote:
       | A hidden gem, well worth the watch for fans and newcomers alike.
       | This show wows on so many levels.
        
       | eldgfipo wrote:
       | Incredible show, so disappointed Netflix cancelled it.
        
         | fowl338 wrote:
         | FWIW, it's unlikely that any other studio would have
         | greenlighted AoR at anywhere close to the budget it got. It
         | might have had more seasons elsewhere, but not at this level of
         | quality. I'm glad we at least got one incredible season out of
         | it.
         | 
         | Scavenger's Reign on Max got similarly cancelled after one
         | season. There isn't much audience for weird shows like that,
         | apparently. :(
        
           | teamonkey wrote:
           | I think it's a shame that shows like this need to be runaway
           | hits out of the door, rather than slow-burners. Cult TV has
           | historically had a long tail; you'd think that this was
           | something that would benefit streaming services.
        
             | the_hoffa wrote:
             | It sucks too because with streaming they can track so many
             | finite details; with "old school" TV it was mostly self-
             | reporting (i.e. Neilsen Ratings). And so much of the TV-
             | streaming budgeting took "Hollywood budgeting" to the
             | extremes: if total_individual_views < (total_episodes * 2)
             | && total_episodes_binged < total_episodes &&
             | average_time_spent_on_episode < (average_episode_time *
             | 0.98) && release_date <= 1week then CANCEL_SHOW=true ...
             | just shortsighted and sad :(
        
           | Loughla wrote:
           | Scavenger's Reign is probably the best show I've seen, in
           | terms of world building and creativity. Just absolutely
           | stunning.
           | 
           | I'm massively disappointed it got cancelled. It really
           | scratched the sci-fi itch that usually only gets scratched
           | via books. Most sci-fi movies and shows are really just
           | lazily dressed up romance.
        
             | icu wrote:
             | I'm gutted it's cancelled! Thanks for letting me know. What
             | a pity, it was amazing. I haven't liked a sci-fi animated
             | series that much since Final Space.
        
           | socks wrote:
           | Scavenger's Reign was really excellent - but as I was
           | watching it, I had an inkling that I would likely be in a
           | small cohort of people who love it.
        
             | bee_rider wrote:
             | The art of Scavenger's Reign was really good. The ecosystem
             | was really interesting (a bit overly-clever for stuff that
             | is supposed to have evolved IMO, but it was still really
             | interesting). Really great setting and art.
             | 
             | The plot and characters felt a bit
             | shallow/stereotypical/predictable in a bad way.
             | 
             | It's like they had too much of the ecosystem that they
             | wanted to show, so they split it up among too many
             | characters, and didn't invest the appropriate character
             | development in each. Plus, I really want to steep in the
             | ecosystem, the rush to get to the ship is, IMO, not really
             | necessary (it serves to force the characters to explore the
             | environment, but IMO some alternative force that doesn't
             | put the characters on such a tight timer would be
             | preferable). I often found myself thinking: wow, I wish the
             | characters could take more time exploring this phenomenon,
             | but also, the character should, given their in-character
             | motivation, leave this interesting thing alone. They are
             | wasting precious time.
             | 
             | I'd love to see a Mushishi like series set in that
             | universe. Focus on one character's journey through the
             | ecosystem. Give the character motivation to unravel the
             | mysteries instead of dodge them.
        
               | entropicdrifter wrote:
               | FWIW Scavenger's Reign's creators have been making the
               | show Common Side Effects. It's a brilliant show in its
               | own right IMO but the animation is nowhere near as high-
               | effort.
        
               | bee_rider wrote:
               | Oh, wow, I've been loving Common Side Effects. Didn't
               | realize it was the same people.
               | 
               | Common Side Effects has great characters IMO, it really
               | captures this tension where the alternative to selling
               | out is to accomplish nothing, maybe.
        
         | freetime2 wrote:
         | This is the first I am even hearing about it. Interesting that
         | Netflix has never recommended it to me as someone who watches a
         | lot of fantasy, sci-fi, animation, etc. Although TBH if it
         | weren't highly recommended I would be pretty hesitant to watch
         | a show with muppets, despite my other interests. Even with this
         | glowing recommendation I'm still a bit skeptical.
        
         | muddi900 wrote:
         | They canceled it after renwing it.
         | 
         | Louis Leterrier is considered a journeyman Hollywood director,
         | but his work here was insane.
         | 
         | And the puppetry.
        
       | raffraffraff wrote:
       | > The problem with all this is the same thing great animation
       | runs into. Because of the medium, many people choose to ignore
       | the show or dismiss it as made for kids
       | 
       | This reminds me of Yonderland, an absolutely amazing TV show that
       | has plot, characters and occasionally adult humour that will fly
       | over the heads of children in the same way that a lot of great
       | Simpsons gags did, in the good old days. Yonderland is made by
       | the same people who did Ghosts (no, not the American rehash, the
       | far superior original). Find it, watch it, it's brilliant.
       | 
       | https://m.imdb.com/title/tt2938522/
        
         | socks wrote:
         | Gravity Falls is another 'kids' show that is absolutely
         | brilliant.
        
       | tigerlily wrote:
       | > It's certainly darker than something like Peter Jackson's Lord
       | of the Rings films...
       | 
       | Huh. Why not also compare Jackson's puppet/splatter films, _Bad
       | Taste_ , _Meet the Feebles_ , heck even _Braindead_?
        
         | EdwardDiego wrote:
         | Because very very few people know of those films.
         | 
         | "Ooh, aren't I lucky, I got a chunky bit!"
         | 
         | You could also have mentioned Heavenly Creatures and The
         | Frighteners (filmed in my home town, was a blast seeing Michael
         | J. Fox roaming around).
         | 
         | I suspect they mentioned LotR because you know, well known and,
         | fantasy.
         | 
         | Not really comparable to Barry and the team vs. the evil
         | aliens, or Harvey Weinstein personified in a walrus puppet.
         | 
         | But I'm rather glad you're aware of Jackson's earlier works.
        
         | whywhywhywhy wrote:
         | "dark" in the context of a fantasy movie isn't the same meaning
         | as "dark" in the concept of a gross out or comedy movie.
        
           | skyyler wrote:
           | Can you describe what you feel the difference is? I'm very
           | curious to hear your personal opinion on this matter.
        
       | kermit___ wrote:
       | https://archive.ph/2025.03.18-084516/https://gizmodo.com/rem...
       | 
       | (Had a page crash and strange refreshes from ads.)
        
       | pavlov wrote:
       | I remember this was the first HDR program I watched on my new
       | OLED TV back in 2019, and the experience felt like all my life
       | I'd been watching TV with foggy sunglasses that had been suddenly
       | removed.
       | 
       | It's a really beautifully shot show.
        
         | donatj wrote:
         | The first season of Westworld was this far me. Started it the
         | same day we got our first HDR TV. Blown away.
        
       | nottorp wrote:
       | Is it a masterpiece, or a 2 hour movie made with the best
       | material in the 10 episodes would have been an actual
       | masterpiece?
        
         | entropicdrifter wrote:
         | Cramming that much plot into a 2 hour movie would suck. You
         | could maybe halve the runtime, but anything less than 5 hours
         | would just not work IMO
        
           | nottorp wrote:
           | Are you sure, or most of the plot is padding to get to season
           | length?
           | 
           | Every time I try to watch a tv series the padding starts to
           | burst at the seams by at best the 3rd episode. Then I give up
           | for a few years, let myself be tricked again and nothing has
           | changed ...
        
       | techterrier wrote:
       | Given it was so obvious that the team had bottled lightening with
       | this creation, it stands as a monument to the failure of bean
       | counter driven programming. Surely any creative person looking at
       | the quality of this work would have kept this team in the groove.
       | It's not like they didnt have the money.
       | 
       | They could easily have made the cash back on some reality thing
       | that cost nothing but made bank.
        
         | ReptileMan wrote:
         | I mean they had to finance rebel moon, the idol and the
         | electric state.
         | 
         | This is what I also hate about the gaming industry. If you have
         | a team that works good - find something to do for them.
         | 
         | The guys behind Prince of Peria lost crown were brilliant in
         | every aspect. And Ubisoft disbanded them instead of giving them
         | time to get their footing. But we have a bloated AC:Shadows
         | crap coming our way.
        
           | ekianjo wrote:
           | > The guys behind Prince of Peria lost crown were brilliant
           | in every aspect.
           | 
           | You seem to assume that people want to keep working together
           | forever. Gamesdev can be really intense and for a lot of devs
           | the end of a game is the opportunity to part ways cleanly and
           | try something else.
        
           | hibikir wrote:
           | A great game, but one that had a very poor product market
           | fit. It might be better than most games of its genre, but it
           | also had a much higher budget, and with that, a much higher
           | price. People buy metroidvanias for 20 or 30, on steam. They
           | released elsewhere, for $50. They didn't have to just be very
           | good, but make Hollow Knight and the like look like relics,
           | and they didn't. The closest thing at selling at that price
           | was Metroid Dread, and it did only fine, not great, despite
           | carrying a higher value IP.
           | 
           | They were always doomed by the budgetary limits, kind of like
           | how the latest Indy movie was doomed to lose money unless it
           | was as big as Avatar.
        
             | stevenwoo wrote:
             | The other handicap for The Lost Crown is Ubisoft always
             | puts its games on sale at a steep discount in much shorter
             | time window than other publishers so they have taught
             | patient gamers to wait.
        
       | beloch wrote:
       | This was a brilliant show, but it had the misfortune to come
       | along at a time when Netflix was cancelling even moderate
       | successes after one season and slashing the budget of hit shows
       | for their second season before cancelling them too (e.g. Altered
       | Carbon). Only very rarely does a show turn into the kind of pop
       | culture sensation that seems to make the bean-counters want to go
       | past two seasons (e.g. Stranger Things), unless it's some
       | executive's idea of a tent-pole for their platform (e.g. Rings of
       | Power).
       | 
       | Given how fragmentation and enshittification of streaming
       | services is driving users back to piracy, one can't help but feel
       | like the current model may not persist much longer. Heck, I
       | wonder what the impact of the trade war is going to be! A _lot_
       | of people in a lot of countries are cancelling Disney Plus,
       | Netflix, Amazon Plus, Apple TV, etc. just because they 're
       | American.
        
         | whywhywhywhy wrote:
         | >A lot of people in a lot of countries are cancelling Disney
         | Plus, Netflix, Amazon Plus, Apple TV, etc. just because they're
         | American
         | 
         | Think you might be over-estimating the size of your algorithm
         | bubble there. Normal people don't even make that connection.
        
           | ziddoap wrote:
           | I mean, I wouldn't say "a lot of people" but... "normal
           | people" absolutely make that connection, and some moderately-
           | sized portion of them are indeed cancelling some services.
           | 
           | The antics of the US have been a perfect excuse to clean up
           | under-used subscriptions.
        
           | metabagel wrote:
           | I think it's likely that many people do make that connection.
           | 
           | There has been a surge of antipathy towards the U.S. in
           | Canada and Europe; owing to Trump's threats with respect to
           | trade wars, annexation of Canada and Greenland, and
           | undermining NATO and the ability of Europe to defend itself.
        
         | icu wrote:
         | Yeah I was upset at Altered Carbon being cancelled. It was very
         | good. I've been hoping a video game studio picks up the rights
         | and makes a good AA or AAA game. I sadly didn't find Altered
         | Carbon: Resleeved as good as the main series.
        
           | Kipters wrote:
           | IMO only the first season was really good, while the second
           | one was very bad, I almost wish they had cancelled it after
           | the first instead.
        
             | icu wrote:
             | I didn't find it bad, but it was different, I think the
             | show was trying to find a new direction to make the series
             | last, which obviously didn't work.
        
               | entropicdrifter wrote:
               | Personally, I found the second season to be a decent show
               | in its own right, but comparison is 100% the thief of joy
               | in this case. Season one was one of the most gorgeous
               | pieces of sci-fi media I've ever seen and season two just
               | looked OK by comparison and had a much slower pace and
               | felt more emotionally vulnerable compared to season one's
               | hardboiled tone.
               | 
               | If they were separate shows I would be tempted not to
               | compare them at all.
        
               | gopher_space wrote:
               | The main actor was Space Philip Marlowe in two different
               | shows and I just wanted more of that.
        
             | sleepybrett wrote:
             | IMO the first book was really good, the others are pretty
             | bad. So they were always going to have the problem... and
             | frankly they altered the original book in ways that were
             | worse without actually resolving any problems with length.
        
             | trentnix wrote:
             | The first half of the first season was absolutely great. It
             | went downhill quickly when his sister showed up. By the end
             | of the season, it was awful.
             | 
             | Season 2 is simply forgettable.
        
         | cultofmetatron wrote:
         | > cancelling even moderate successes after one season and
         | slashing the budget of hit shows for their second season before
         | cancelling them too (e.g. Altered Carbon)
         | 
         | I seriously don't understand who's in charge of this idiocy.
         | its not like they are relying on nielson boxes. they have good
         | data on what is bringing people to the streaming platform.
         | there's no reason for them to be cutting shows prematurely that
         | people love.
        
       | OisinMoran wrote:
       | Hard disagree with a lot said here. Watched both the film and
       | this series (though haven't got around to finishing it yet) for
       | the first time last year, and the series lacks a lot of what
       | makes the film great.
       | 
       | The film has some interesting zen-like qualities like duality,
       | and a more complex set of morals. The series just feels like most
       | modern creations with a pretty bland right vs wrong.
       | 
       | The film is also almost entirely practical effects, which are
       | incredible (the behind the scenes footage is amazing), while the
       | series leans a bit too heavily on CGI in parts, which detracts
       | from the action a bit (a la LoTR vs The Hobbit).
       | 
       | Given this piece I might go back to finish it now (and from
       | another comment possibly upgrade my TV), but I still think I'll
       | prefer the film.
        
         | jhbadger wrote:
         | Yeah, the whole point of the original is that the Mystics and
         | Skeksis were both flawed societies (even if the Skeksis were
         | closer to the normal meaning of "evil") and the ending unites
         | them rather than having the Skeksis destroyed.
        
           | engineer_22 wrote:
           | The Netflix show is a prequel, setting up the story of how
           | the gelfling were wiped out
        
             | jhbadger wrote:
             | Right, but it still takes place after the Mystics and
             | Skeksis split off from each other. The Gelflings were
             | really just irrelevant bystanders to the real story even if
             | we the audience see the story from their perspective in
             | both the movie and show.
        
               | mock-possum wrote:
               | Isn't that the point, in some regards? The urSkeks were
               | alien invaders who committed genocide and caused
               | widespread environmental destruction - it's their
               | ambition that drives the plot forward, it's their powet
               | and their willingness to wield it - without that, nothing
               | would have happened on this wholesome sleepy little
               | planet, you know?
               | 
               | How do you, as a Gelfling, navigate your life, in the
               | shadow of these incredible creatures? That's what the
               | story tells - you worship them as gods, you treat them
               | cautiously as potential allies or enemies, you rise in
               | rebellion to eject them from your world - and maybe in
               | the end you find a new peace and balance.
               | 
               | I do think that mystic and skeksis perspectives are
               | present, in little peeks and glimpses, but I would still
               | welcome another excursion into Thra to find out more
               | about what their lives are like.
        
         | donatj wrote:
         | If you have not seen "Princess Mononoke", I highly recommend
         | it. I rewatched it recently and the people and creatures on
         | both sides of the conflict are neither really good nor evil.
         | Just two opposing forces with different goals.
         | 
         | It offers a level of subtlety I have not seen often in film,
         | particularly since Star Wars.
        
           | tmountain wrote:
           | Very common in eastern storytelling. Ghibli films are some of
           | my favorite for many reasons, but I particularly love how
           | they contrast ideas.
        
             | icu wrote:
             | I think Studio Ghibli's 'secret sauce' is the
             | "Kishotenketsu" or four act structure that makes Studio
             | Ghibli special:
             | 
             | 1. Ki (Introduction) - Sets up characters and situation.
             | 
             | 2. Sho (Development) - Expands the characters and fleshes
             | them out.
             | 
             | 3. Ten (Twist) - Introduces a new element or change.
             | 
             | 4. Ketsu (Conclusion) - Shows the outcome and connections
             | between elements.
             | 
             | In contrast Western films usually follow a three act
             | structure:
             | 
             | 1. Setup - Introduces the hero, often stepping into the
             | unknown, and establishes the initial conflict and sets the
             | stage for the story.
             | 
             | 2. Confrontation - The hero faces mounting challenges and
             | conflicts, often involving threats to innocent people or
             | community. Stakes are raised and the story progresses to a
             | conclusion.
             | 
             | 3. Resolution - The story culminates in a climatic
             | confrontation between the hero and the villain. Some
             | sacrifice is usually paid, the hero triumphs, justice is
             | served and order returns to the community.
             | 
             | I grew up on Disney and the three act structure, so when I
             | experienced Studio Ghibli for the first time with Princess
             | Mononoke it felt very different, fresh and more mature.
             | While I don't necessarily love all of Studio Ghibli's
             | catalogue, I do treasure Princess Mononoke, Kiki's Delivery
             | Service, and Porco Rosso.
             | 
             | In the case of Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, I highly
             | recommend reading the manga over watching the Studio Ghibli
             | anime.
        
               | chuckadams wrote:
               | They look like the same steps to me, with steps 1 and 2
               | both being Setup. The dramatic arc is fairly universal,
               | and Miyazaki is hardly an exotic unfamiliar with western
               | culture.
        
               | Hemospectrum wrote:
               | GP's lists fall somewhat short of explaining the two most
               | important differences:
               | 
               | 1. Kishoutenketsu prefers to introduce the primary
               | conflict as late as possible, whereas any writer in
               | Hollywood will try to introduce it as early as possible.
               | 
               | 2. Kishoutenketsu prefers to frame the primary conflict
               | as a difference in perspective that must be bridged from
               | both sides, rather than outright competition between
               | irreconcilable goals.
               | 
               | These differences aren't fundamental (you can find all
               | the counterexamples you like, especially if you cite
               | movies with twist endings) but they are encouraged by
               | style guides and deliberately (or even subconsciously)
               | prioritized by writers, to varying effect.
        
               | jancsika wrote:
               | > whereas any writer in Hollywood will try to introduce
               | it as early as possible
               | 
               | I like the Lynch version of this in Lost Highway:
               | 
               | 1. Conflict: someone sent us a video of the outside of
               | our house.
               | 
               | 2. Rising Conflict: oh no, now they sent us a video of
               | the _inside_ of our house!
               | 
               | 3. Conglitch: now they sent us a video of me murdering my
               | wife?!? Didn't I just see her go in the bedroom?
               | 
               | 4. Sogflatch: wait wut now I'm getting sentenced for
               | murdering my wife?!?
               | 
               | 5. Segfault: Hey Warden, the guy who murdered his wife
               | disappeared and now there's a different guy in his
               | cell!!!
               | 
               | 6. Reboot: New guy adjusting to life after materializing
               | in and getting released from the murderer's cell...
               | 
               | There's a similar game with conflict in Blue Velvet where
               | "teen coming-of-age plot arc" becomes entangled with a
               | separate "drug-addled adult plot arc." The latter ends up
               | dominating to the point where the "teen drama" bullies
               | get scared and drive off from what would have been the
               | climax of their plot arc (never to be seen again!).
        
               | kouru225 wrote:
               | Miyazaki stated that he was trying to break everything he
               | knows about story structure with Mononoke. Last time I
               | saw it, it became clear to me that it's almost impossible
               | to fit into any story structure and it's just one giant
               | crescendo to the end. More like a minimalist music piece
               | than anything.
        
               | sleepybrett wrote:
               | Mononoke and Spirited Away specifically feel like they
               | have several 'extra' acts that make them seem longer than
               | they are. Though looking back at both I'm not sure what
               | I'd cut.
        
               | the_af wrote:
               | I wouldn't cut anything. They "just work", it's just that
               | they don't follow a conventional structure. I don't want
               | them to follow familiar patterns.
               | 
               | Yeah, you guessed it: two of my favorite animated movies!
        
               | kouru225 wrote:
               | Ngl the idea that the average commenter is thinking about
               | how to make changes to Miyazaki's two best movies is so
               | funny to me. It's like your average tourist walking up to
               | Van Gogh's Starry Night and being like "I dunno I think I
               | would do it differently."
        
               | kouru225 wrote:
               | While you're at it why don't you tell me what parts you'd
               | cut from Citizen Kane, Hamlet, and the Mona Lisa.
        
       | donatj wrote:
       | How strange, the most positive review I heard from anyone I know
       | was that "It ruined my childhood" and that it let's say "craped"
       | on the source material. Mind you these are the nicest things
       | people said.
       | 
       | I have not seen it nor the original film to be fair, but this is
       | quite literally the first positive thing I have heard about it.
        
         | icu wrote:
         | If you're a sci-fi and/or a fantasy fan I really recommend
         | watching the original film and the prequel in that order and
         | make your own mind up.
         | 
         | I was young when the original came out so I found it good but
         | scary. I felt the prequel was excellent and it left me wanting
         | more.
         | 
         | These days I feel a lot of my youthful nostalgia has been
         | vandalised for a quick corporate buck. Probably the worst has
         | been Willow on Disney+.
         | 
         | There are so few examples of good follow-ups to nostalgic
         | media. The only other example I can think of is Blade Runner
         | (1982) and Blade Runner 2049 (2017).
        
           | domador wrote:
           | What happened to Willow?
        
             | moate wrote:
             | Did you not see the TV show? It had a bit of production
             | hell (Jon Chu from Wicked was going to direct, and had 2
             | different people come in after him) and was very uneven,
             | cancelled after 1 season. They buried it so deep it's not
             | even on Disney+ anymore and it only came out in late 2022.
             | 
             | https://ondisneyplus.disney.com/show/willow (notice you can
             | only see clips/trailer)
        
           | the_af wrote:
           | > _There are so few examples of good follow-ups to nostalgic
           | media. The only other example I can think of is Blade Runner
           | (1982) and Blade Runner 2049 (2017)._
           | 
           | I know this is controversial, but I disliked Blade Runner
           | 2049. It feels made by someone who just didn't get Blade
           | Runner and was both copying it mechanically in parts, and
           | improvising unfaithfully in others. (Coincidentally, I liked
           | _Arrival_ but the changes Villeneuve introduced to make it
           | more  "sentimental" ruined the reigned-in emotions in Ted
           | Chiang's piece -- again it felt like he just didn't "get
           | it").
           | 
           | I obsess about Blade Runner -- to me almost every scene is
           | artwork, and the music is amazing. The plot? I mean, yes,
           | there are plot holes aplenty, but I don't think this movie is
           | _truly_ about the plot, beyond the philosophical themes.
           | 
           | Blade Runner 2049 in contrast seems so cynical and shallow to
           | me. It just didn't work.
           | 
           | PS: also, the insufferable Jared Leto. And the non-entity
           | that is Luv. While Blade Runner has the best anti-hero ever
           | in Roy Batty... and the best dying speech (vs Luv's "I'm the
           | best!". Ugh).
        
       | trentnix wrote:
       | If you liked the original, you should absolutely watch Age of
       | Resistance. It's not a masterpiece but it was clearly made by
       | people that care about the original, its legacy, and its lore.
        
       | duxup wrote:
       | I love the film. The film is a real masterpiece.
       | 
       | I'm struggling to get through the series. That ultra clunky
       | opening narration is not a great sign and the world building and
       | underlying plot feels shallow in the series.
       | 
       | I'd LOVE for more Dark Crystal content but I would like them to
       | start over...
        
         | yownie wrote:
         | just so you know there are some graphic novels that accompany
         | the new series.
        
       | throaway1989 wrote:
       | If Gizmodo said its great, you know its not.
        
         | Supermancho wrote:
         | It's a bad show, for obvious reasons. Poor writing (thinly
         | veiled political themes), bad characterizations (stupid weak
         | characters), convoluted cruel plot, trying to be whimsical, all
         | in the name of Fan Service. As a youtuber quipped, it's like
         | the Flintstones + 12 years a slave. It's not for anyone and the
         | script is mostly to blame.
        
       | gglitch wrote:
       | Is there any way to buy and own a copy of it?
        
       | Sporktacular wrote:
       | It's true. An amazing feat of manual, analogue artistry in our
       | age. It's almost criminal, but definitely heartbreaking they
       | didn't pick up season 2.
        
       | chuckadams wrote:
       | I loved DC:AoR but I never expected it was anything more than a
       | one-off. Keep following the struggle as much as you like, but you
       | still know that in the end, the Gelflings lose. I mean yes they
       | pull it off in the end and maybe the Ur-Skeks magic them all
       | back, they discover a lost tribe, whatever, but in the meantime
       | they pretty much get wiped out. Making a good story in the face
       | of that dark inevitability is what the writing craft is about,
       | and they pulled it off and left on a high note. Best thing they
       | can do is leave it that way.
        
       | pcmaffey wrote:
       | The writing in the series is unfortunately terrible. It sinks the
       | otherwise beautiful show with sterile and laborious
       | narration/dialogue, telltale signs of over workshopped writing
       | room slop, from which no real living plot ever emerges. Such a
       | disappointment.
        
         | jandrese wrote:
         | This was my problem too. I really wanted to like the series and
         | the visuals were nice, but the Netflix writers room strikes
         | again. The whole thing felt like the middle season episodes
         | from a Netflix Marvel series.
        
       | dash2 wrote:
       | The author seems to conflate "dark" with "adult", so let me take
       | the chance to point out this common mistake. Horror films,
       | Warhammer 40K and 2000 AD comics are all famously dark, but
       | they're for kids or teens. A Midsummer Night's Dream and The
       | Importance of Being Earnest are light but grown-up. It's a weird
       | deformation of the past generation to think that being depressing
       | makes you deep.
        
         | ericmcer wrote:
         | Oh man yeah I hate this trend.
         | 
         | It has especially worked its way into popular literature. A
         | books writing is at a 5th grade level, has almost zero depth,
         | but then is full of sex and violence which makes it an "adult"
         | novel. Authors like Sarah J Maas are almost comically bad
         | writers but have achieved immense popular success using this
         | setup.
        
           | 7357 wrote:
           | Can I mention Jay Kristoff as well?
        
           | guyzero wrote:
           | 54% of [US] adults have a literacy below a 6th-grade level - 
           | https://www.thenationalliteracyinstitute.com/post/literacy-s.
           | ..
           | 
           | Not surprising that books like this succeed.
        
             | metalliqaz wrote:
             | Agreed. People just can't read. I think this is one of many
             | upstream causes of the current political landscape. When
             | faced with reading a corporate financial statement, any
             | laws, scientific papers, municipal budgets, or even an
             | article in WSJ or The Atlantic, people are unable to
             | proceed. So a defense mechanism comes up: "it's all just
             | lies, anyway." Then they go and find a tweet or watch TV.
        
               | mandmandam wrote:
               | I'mma go out on a bit of a limb here, and say that even
               | the people who can read often 'can't read'. Many people
               | who 'can read' only read things in one of two particular
               | bubbles, colored either blue or red.
               | 
               | This has resulted in a population which is terrifyingly
               | disconnected from reality, and yet utterly certain of
               | their own beliefs; beliefs which have been worked into
               | the core of their self-identity by the magic of political
               | kayfabe. "The GOP believes Corona is from a lab, so it
               | must be wrong" ... "Trump will genocide Gaza worse, so
               | voting for someone arming an internationally condemned
               | genocide is good and practical actually", etc.
               | 
               | Out of the small subset of people who _really_ can read,
               | and think for themselves, there is only a small number of
               | them who can communicate their ideas effectively (and
               | only to people who can at least sorta read at a 6th grade
               | level). And the number of those people who have any power
               | to amplify their voice is too depressing to think about
               | for long.
               | 
               | ... And yes, the Age of Resistance ties into this in many
               | ways. The Skeksis are seen as strong, maybe even
               | benevolent leaders by most, who are very far from any
               | levers of power and aren 't getting very well informed.
               | Meanwhile, quietly (at first), the life of the small
               | people is being drained...
        
             | metabagel wrote:
             | This may also help to explain why politicians who express
             | themselves with a limited vocabulary can be surprisingly
             | successful. And the implication is that other politicians
             | should probably do so as well.
        
               | FredPret wrote:
               | Idiocracy cometh
        
               | tempodox wrote:
               | It hath already arrived.
        
         | the_af wrote:
         | > _The author seems to conflate "dark" with "adult"_
         | 
         | Oh, how I agree with your comment!
         | 
         | This is a bizarre trend I've also noticed. Also unfortunately
         | helped with the "adult" monicker for anything showing sex,
         | which is in reality generally more aimed _at horny teenagers_
         | and so-called  "young adults" rather than grownups.
        
         | FrustratedMonky wrote:
         | Also, maybe related.
         | 
         | Ultra-Violence is for all ages, great for kids.
         | 
         | One small shot of side boob -- OH NO, that is ADULT, porn.
        
         | fellowniusmonk wrote:
         | Another similar conflation is Serious with Somber. Taking an
         | issue seriously can be amusing as hell, it all depends on what
         | mood allows you to best explore the problem space, if you are
         | serious about knowing or solving an issue you won't necessarily
         | lock into a particular mood in that exploration.
        
         | chachacharge wrote:
         | Gizmodo and all of gawker media= useless waste of electricity
        
       | sleepybrett wrote:
       | I do not agree w/ this in relation to the Dark Crystal series.
       | But I see parallels in the Star Wars series Andor. Many will skip
       | it because 'it's star wars', but it's a great series in star wars
       | costume. The three people I've pressed into watching it came away
       | with very favorable reviews.
       | 
       | There are some kinda deep cut star wars references that non-fans
       | will miss. Mon Mothma the political head of the rebellion is seen
       | only sparingly in the original trilogy and in rogue one (scenes
       | were shot for her in the prequels setting her up as politically
       | aligned with Padme and Bail, but they were cut) is a main
       | character here. Other characters like Saw Gererra only appear in
       | the clone wars series and Rogue One (a film for which this series
       | is a prequel). However this didn't seem to effect my friends much
       | only one of whom had even seen rogue one and the prequels, the
       | other two only having seen the original series.
       | 
       | I'm so glad that it got a second season and am very excited to
       | see it play out.
        
       | tunesmith wrote:
       | I'm actually surprised to read the opinions of people who watched
       | it and didn't like it. I thought the problem was always just that
       | not enough people knew it existed, but if they watched it, they
       | would have loved it. I guess I must just be in the camp of "who
       | WOULDN'T want to watch high-budget puppetry for ten hours??"
        
         | devenson wrote:
         | I feel the same way about Farscape.
        
       | staplung wrote:
       | I think plans for a Dark Crystal sequel were stuck in development
       | hell for decades and then Jim Henson died. It was actually
       | announced in 2005 but never got made into a film. Think there was
       | a comic series though.
       | 
       | Also, can't help pointing to this Robot Chicken gem: The Dark
       | Cristal:
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RudzOqb-fRc
        
       | hoofedear wrote:
       | I'm gonna disagree with the comments here and vouch that Age of
       | Resistance is a fantastic show. It's what got me into the world
       | of Dark Crystal in general. I saw the show first and then the
       | movie, and I feel like the show perfectly setup the events that
       | lead up to the movie. Even if the show unfortunately was
       | cancelled before it could explore Deet's storyline, the creation
       | of the Garthim, and the discovery of the Wall of Destiny. Sure,
       | the rejoining of the UrRu and Skeksis is interesting, but it's
       | certainly not the "whole point" of the movie/show.
        
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