[HN Gopher] Underware 2.0 - Open Source Infinite Cable Management
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Underware 2.0 - Open Source Infinite Cable Management
Author : reimertz
Score : 130 points
Date : 2025-03-17 09:29 UTC (13 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (makerworld.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (makerworld.com)
| reimertz wrote:
| I've been looking for something like this for quite some time so
| really happy to see an open-sourced solution with a lot of happy
| users.
|
| Will report back how the 3D-printing goes.
| KaiserPro wrote:
| Oooo nice, gridfinity but for cables
| haarts wrote:
| Holy cow, that guy is intense! Also: cool stuff! I know what I
| have my neighbor print for me.
| jmclnx wrote:
| There was a software company named Underware in the DOS Days that
| made a great editor. They were bought by Borland and then it
| disappeared.
|
| I do not want to deal with a Captcha so I do not know what the
| article is about. But the 2 posts here seems to be happy.
| imperialdrive wrote:
| Holy smokes that's a tough to view site for mobile folks.
| xorcist wrote:
| The title of the page is _Underpants 2.0_ , but the renderings
| are nothing like what the title promises.
|
| I guess there is some automatic translation going on. I've said
| it a thousand times but I can say it again:
|
| There are very few universal truths in life but here's one: Do
| not use uncalled for automatic translations. Ever. Certainly no
| type of translation without prooreading.
|
| It is deeply disrespectful of your users. Should they want to
| read the page in another language than it was published in, there
| is a perfectly functional button in their web browser.
|
| Your users get by on the rest of the web, and they can surely
| manage your page. Unless they have to hunt for the existence of
| your home cooked "language" setting, which may or may not even
| exist, without which they have to guess which words translate to
| underpants. It may be fun the first time, but believe me, it gets
| boring quickly. Any web shop that presents me with a butchered
| version of my locale gets closed immediately without giving it
| any further attention.
| cassianoleal wrote:
| The title is Underware, not Underpants. Katie is Welsh, so I
| don't see why there would be any automatic translations. I also
| fail to see how any of this might be disrespectful to their
| users. Care to elaborate?
| viccis wrote:
| This was almost certainly done by Makeworld, not Katie, which
| makes the top comment even more pointless and needlessly
| vitriolic. Katie might read these comments, but Makerworld's
| UI people are not likely to take orders from an irate
| Hackernews user's screed.
| LegionMammal978 wrote:
| Are we looking at the same page? 'Underware', the name of the
| product, seems like a simple pun: it's hard _ware_ that goes
| _under_ your desk (or wherever else) to simplify cable
| management. The descriptions are perfectly clear, if a bit
| heavy on the marketing-speak.
| slightwinder wrote:
| I also see it translated into my local language, and indeed
| the title was localized into the equivalent of underpants.
| Maybe OP was retranslating it back to English?
|
| Strange enough, the description has a hint about the
| translation, and I even can turn it off to get the English
| original, but this is not working on the Headline or the
| website itself.
| xorcist wrote:
| Of course we aren't. That's the whole problem. We have
| different locales. That results in a header somewhere with
| the languages I understand in order of fluency (which
| includes English, mind you), as per the specification. And
| the author of that web page decided to turn on an automatic
| translation tool to present its output instead of the
| original web page.
|
| That tool is particularly bad as it somehow decides that
| underware is similar enough to underwear that it should map
| the word to the word for underpants in my language. The rest
| of the page is a little better, but not by much. But the
| problem here isn't the quality of tool itself which results
| in particularly amusing choice of words but by the use of the
| tool itself.
|
| Don't do that. If the end user wants to read your page in a
| different language, they are perfectly capable of clicking
| that button in their web browser and deal with the outcome
| themselves.
|
| Just don't. I will not hunt down the language selection
| button on your badly translated web site and I will not
| change my web browser settings for your site alone. I will
| simply choose not to visit your web site, and I suspect many
| others will do the same.
| maeln wrote:
| If I open the page, I see "Sous-vetements 2.0", the
| translation for underwear in French. Sadly, this does not
| look like 3d printable lingerie.
| KaiserPro wrote:
| Hands on Kate, has an actual real sense of humour, so you know,
| I strongly suspect its Kate's deliberate choice.
| jstummbillig wrote:
| Somebody is trying to be more inclusive (because what else
| would any attempt at translating content be?). It's okay to
| have an opinion about, well, anything, but, what I think is
| "deeply disrespectful" is completely ignoring good intentions
| and pretending to be able to speak for a group of people in an
| overly forceful and authoritative manner.
| xorcist wrote:
| > Somebody is trying to be more inclusive
|
| Not likely. No one ever felt included by an automatic
| translation. It is impersonal and clearly comes off as such.
|
| Stastical translation tools are tremendous and helps me
| regularly to understand the gist of texts in other languages,
| but I understand that it is at best an approximation and I am
| prepared that the details may be somewhat off.
|
| Being presented a butchered text where key words must be
| guessed what they were translated from is deeply
| disrespectful of other language speakers, yes. It really is.
| Why else serve them a second-rate quality web page? A
| translation can only make the text worse. It can not make the
| text better. This time it was only a question of underpants
| but sometimes the result can include literal insults.
|
| > because what else would an attempt at translating content
| be?
|
| Misguided?
|
| I'm trying to be kind and helpful here: Please stop this. It
| is not helpful, and every popular web browser already offers
| a drop down menu bar button with a translation tool that is
| not only potentially better but also under user control.
| There is no upside to this user hostile design and the
| downside is that it is confusing and potentially derogatory.
| h1fra wrote:
| I was greeted with a surprising "Underwear 2.0" (sic) in
| french, so not only it's translated against my will (my
| computer is configured in english) but it's badly translated
| 0x457 wrote:
| If you watch Hands on Katie on youtube (Katie created original
| underwire) it will all make sense.
| cmsj wrote:
| I haven't played with the 2.0 stuff, but I do have the original
| Underware on the underside of my desk.
|
| I don't like the core concept of routing cables through what is
| essentially 3d printed trunking. It's a ton of printing, and a
| ton of faff to install. Instead I use their cable hooks at
| various points along a cable run. Much quicker and easier to
| manage after the fact.
|
| This is probably the most useful underware thing I've printed
| thus far, for securely holding various PSU bricks:
| https://www.printables.com/model/1119354-double-clip-cable-t...
| nkrebs13 wrote:
| Will probably play around with this, looks slick.
|
| For folks looking for some other options I bought this cheap
| server raceway: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00008VFAP. Super nice
| to run the cables into the slots and then let the mess be inside
| there. I screwed one part into the desk and the cover I cut into
| 4 pieces so I can remove only one piece if I need to move cords
| around or whatever.
|
| 3d printed a few pieces for power supplies and a power strip but
| for the most part all cables go to the raceway. I had something
| similar to this original "underware" at some point but it was a
| pain in the ass whenever I changed cables/etc. So many extra
| holes in the bottom of my desk now
| prennert wrote:
| This project seems to be building on top of Multiboard [0],
| which is a lattice that is used as a base to mount all those
| runners and equipment holders on.
|
| So the idea is that you put a lattice up with "a few" screws
| and then you can change everything else underneath without
| having to screw around any further.
|
| [0]: https://www.multiboard.io/
| pftburger wrote:
| +1 on this. Works wonders, costs nothing.
| lovich wrote:
| Interesting looking project and I'll probably try printing it out
| and experimenting with it, but as an aside
|
| Why is the maker and her site so porny but not porn? I thought I
| had clicked the wrong Instagram link and had ended up on an Only
| Fans model with all the downblouse shots, but it's never
| mentioned or sold, just talks about the project.
| 28304283409234 wrote:
| > Why is the maker and her site so porny but not porn?
|
| Sex sells.
|
| The logo is a breast with nipple.
| lovich wrote:
| I guess I'm surprised at how quaint the commercialization is
| then.
| philsnow wrote:
| You're getting downvoted but I'm similarly put off by the
| gratuitous downblouse and upskirt shots (at least in the first
| underware video [0] which is itself referred to from the linked
| video).
|
| I was more put off by how long the video is and how little the
| actual underware system is on display. It seems more like a
| branding exercise for the person in the video. Contrast that to
| the tirst gridfinity video [1] which yea also has terrible puns
| and wordplay, but which spends way more time showing off the
| project.
|
| [0] https://youtu.be/0TT96b98YZY
| lovich wrote:
| I wouldn't even say put off. I'd say more that I'd been
| trained by the last couple of years of the general internet
| that if signs like that exist there's an upcoming affiliate
| link or link page you ignore.
|
| Almost pleasantly surprised that it was legitimately
| background to the concept and not yet another monetization
| strategy
| MikeTheGreat wrote:
| For what it's worth, I had the same reaction as you. The still
| image of the YouTube video prominently features a woman
| standing, arms spread, with her nipples clearly visible because
| she's not wearing a bra under her shirt.
|
| Other comments here shed some light on this.
|
| Apparently the original creator was aiming to create a system
| that managed the wires under her desk, and named it underwire.
| An underwire is a part of some bras, which is how they got to
| the suggestive branding.
|
| It looks like this is version 2.0 of the project / a fork of
| the project so they changed the name slightly to underware, as
| in 'hardware under your desk, to manage wires'
|
| So it's a bit off for me (use sex to sell beer; tell me I'm
| smart to sell nerd stuff) but at least it makes sense now.
|
| Hope that helps!
| SlackingOff123 wrote:
| I've been looking for a reason to buy a 3d printer and I think
| I've finally found it!
|
| Anyone care to recommend some suitable (and beginner friendly)
| printers?
| dpe82 wrote:
| Bambu Lab. Not open source friendly but they're the first
| company whose printers more or less Just Work.
| sturadnidge wrote:
| If you want something that 'just works', it's hard to go past
| the entry level options from Bambu Lab despite their march
| towards Cloud and ecosystem lock in. If that kind of thing
| bothers you, the new Creality 'Hi' series is probably where I'd
| start if I was starting today. For other useful things to
| print, check out Gridfinity as well!
| lovich wrote:
| Thirding on Bambu lab although they are supposed to be
| announcing their newest model any day now. You may want to wait
| a few weeks to see if you could pick up someone's p1p or p1s
| for cheap if they are upgrading
| smw wrote:
| Can I buy pieces somewhere without buying a printer?
| DoingIsLearning wrote:
| Perhaps you are not familiar with it but you can literally
| order just about any part in any material online.
|
| Several business that used to print PCB's also do 3d printing
| at very competitive rates.
|
| I won't advertise names but it's easily found online. You
| simple upload a stl file, select a material and that's kind of
| it.
| Bluescreenbuddy wrote:
| Hmmmmmm....Some interesting camera shots in the video
| diggan wrote:
| This as of a good opportunity to ask as any: If I happen to sit
| on 100s of different cables from the last two decades, that I all
| want to keep yet they aren't actively in use, what are some good
| way of storing those?
|
| I initially just hanged them off pegs, but eventually the
| variations became so many I had to figure something else out. At
| the moment, they're just separated into boxes by what domain
| (more or less) they belong to, but surely there has to be a
| better way? I want them accessible but not in the way.
| franky47 wrote:
| Toilet paper cardboard tubes. You'll eventually collect enough,
| and you can roll the cables into a flat loop, with the two ends
| on the same side (helps with sorting by connectors), then
| surround them with the cardboard tube. Store them vertically in
| a drawer or a box (so you see only the connectors).
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