[HN Gopher] Computers and Mice - Mister Rogers Neighborhood
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       Computers and Mice - Mister Rogers Neighborhood
        
       Author : colechristensen
       Score  : 70 points
       Date   : 2025-03-11 16:15 UTC (4 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (misterrogers.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (misterrogers.org)
        
       | mdwhatcott wrote:
       | From the episode: "You know, your own imagination is far more
       | wonderful than any computer could ever be. You know why--you're a
       | living human being, and a computer is just a machine. Human
       | beings are far more wonderful than machines!" -Fred Rogers
       | 
       | I appreciate that a computer has become such a wonderful tool for
       | realizing ideas that come from my imagination.
        
         | heywoods wrote:
         | It really is amazing isn't it? I teach 4/5th grade where many
         | in this cohort are behind in reading/writing due to the
         | pandemic. It was an uphill battle to get the approval to
         | incorporate AI in my lesson plans but admin quickly changed
         | their tune after they saw the engagement and improvement in my
         | students after using AI to generate images. While many of us
         | adults, find prompting and chat based AI's cumbersome, it has
         | been a boon for my student's writing skills. The tight feedback
         | and reward loop text based image generation provides between
         | what is nestled in their minds and what the AI creates is
         | incredible. The iterative and interactive nature of the product
         | compliments and reinforces the foundational writing skills
         | introduced at the 4/5th grade.
         | 
         | Specifically the skills of: 1. Research skills 2. Varied
         | sentence structures 3. Transition words and phrases 4. Editing
         | and revising 5. Voice and tone 6. Descriptive language
        
         | dcsommer wrote:
         | Yet I feel that AI gives such instant gratification that the
         | boredom and struggle required for imagination is short-
         | circuited and atrophies.
        
       | heywoods wrote:
       | One of my core memories as a kid was when I watched the Mr.
       | Rogers' episode about how crayons were made[0]. I came home after
       | my first week of 1st grade, Grandma making dinner in the kitchen,
       | my Mom getting ready for work. On the days it rained, which were
       | many in the PNW, I would spend my afternoons coloring and
       | watching reruns of Mr. Rogers'. My Grandma had begun recording
       | episodes of Mr. Rogers' to VHS when I was barely even a year old
       | for me to watch when I was older.
       | 
       | Still with the fresh smell of crayon and marker on my hands from
       | school, I grabbed my blue tin cookie can full of crayons from my
       | room, stopping by the gigantic office desk where our brand new
       | Hewlett Packard computer and Deskjet 500 printer lived. Barely
       | tall enough to reach the front paper hopper, I snagged a sheet of
       | paper, sandwiching it between my index and middle fingers.
       | 
       | I popped in the VHS, seated in front of our Magnavox with crayon
       | tin and paper in hand. The episode began and a core memory was
       | made. That distinct crayon smell in combination with that episode
       | will always stay with me.
       | 
       | I left software to become a grade school teacher last year and I
       | have Mr. Rogers' and a shortlist of male teachers to thank for
       | planting the seed of curiosity and play some decades ago.
       | 
       | 0. https://youtu.be/MWAhnVYUPZo?si=kdg7-iY0Wcd8IRne
        
         | tapoxi wrote:
         | I have a fond memory of that episode too. My 2-year-old
         | daughter has been watching Daniel Tiger (a modern Mr. Rogers
         | spinoff) and I showed her that episode so she would understand
         | where all this comes from. She was just as mesmerized as I was.
        
         | ipython wrote:
         | Nothing to add here other than to say thank you for becoming a
         | teacher. Our world needs more "community helpers" like you.
        
         | wffurr wrote:
         | I just watched that episode on PBS Kids this week with my 2 and
         | 6 year old.
        
       | iJohnDoe wrote:
       | How did he plug in the PS2 mouse and have it work instantly?
       | Normally you had to reboot the system for the PS2 mouse to be
       | recognized, or worse, it would freeze the system.
       | 
       | Kudos to the designer of the web site back then. Very cool.
        
         | gosub100 wrote:
         | You might be confusing it with COM port mice on DB-9
         | connectors. I seem to remember those had to be set up and the
         | machine rebooted.
        
         | bombcar wrote:
         | Shot swapping mice and keyboards COULD damage some systems -
         | but most, if they booted with it connected, could be
         | disconnected and readded.
         | 
         | Also why "no keyboard detected-press F1" - it wants you to
         | connect a keyboard and then press F1.
        
       | donnachangstein wrote:
       | That 1998-era website with mouseover graphics seems more
       | functional, intuitive, and faster on a 30 year old PC than any
       | framework-laden digital dreck produced today.
        
       | initramfs wrote:
       | maybe today's technology will become a fad and people outside of
       | Hacker News will rediscover the joys of imagination.
       | 
       | It's funny how reality is distorted for those who pursue profit
       | at any cost: https://dailygalaxy.com/2025/03/zuckerberg-declares-
       | the-end-...
       | 
       | I wonder, are smart glasses being thrust upon us, or is society
       | just picking them up like tablets, which were once awkward to
       | use?
        
       | CozyCardigan99 wrote:
       | Here's a version of the website from the video:
       | https://web.archive.org/web/20001203204700/http://www.pbs.or...
        
         | dehrmann wrote:
         | > CozyCardigan99
         | 
         | A green user for a single joke?!
        
       | dehrmann wrote:
       | I didn't appreciate, or even notice it at the time, but he had
       | legit jazz musicians backstage.
        
         | mysterydip wrote:
         | I think that sums up a lot of what he did. For example, every
         | word in the script was carefully considered and rewritten for
         | maximum understanding of his audience, which I didn't even
         | notice when watching but can definitely appreciate now as I try
         | to explain things to my own children.
         | 
         | https://kottke.org/18/06/freddish-the-special-language-miste...
        
       | crawsome wrote:
       | Stuff like this brings tears to my eyes. Not so much the mouse
       | subject matter, but how the values brought by this show are now
       | in short supply, and it saddens me to think Rogers' efforts are
       | becoming obsolete to modern people.
       | 
       | A few examples I noticed, but not all in this episode are:
       | Promoting high self-esteem, expressing a love of life, advocating
       | for using your imagination, addressing people with respect,
       | settling for something if it isn't perfect, and belief in the
       | good in humanity.
       | 
       | It's such calorie-dense goodness, and he keeps it consistent and
       | almost candid, even on long camera shots.
        
       | oldnetguy wrote:
       | I want to know what computer he was using. It looks so familiar
       | but I can't tell which computer it was.
        
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