[HN Gopher] 50 Years in Filesystems: 1984
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       50 Years in Filesystems: 1984
        
       Author : kaycebasques
       Score  : 69 points
       Date   : 2025-03-06 18:34 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | gjvc wrote:
       | As the old saying says: "You can tune a filesystem, but you can't
       | tune a fish."
        
         | sadboots wrote:
         | lol
        
         | catgirlinspace wrote:
         | is there some metaphor i'm missing or is it just funny?
        
           | CraigJPerry wrote:
           | tuna fish
           | 
           | Tune-a-fish
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           | EDIT: looks like there's a bit more to it
           | https://unixhistory.livejournal.com/1808.html
        
           | kps wrote:
           | The phrase originates with the 'BUGS' section of the 4.2BSD
           | man page for the `tunefs(8)` command, for the Berkeley Fast
           | File System that is the topic of the OP article.
        
             | gjvc wrote:
             | This
        
           | jhbadger wrote:
           | It's a reference to a joke by the comedian Groucho Marx
           | (1890-1977) "You can tune a piano but you can't tuna fish"
           | (also a title of a 1978 REO Speedwagon album paying homage to
           | Marx who had recently died). It's a pun on "tune a" and
           | "tuna".
        
       | pjdesno wrote:
       | Note that there are some significant non-Unix filesystems along
       | the way. In particular, a few years later: "Reimplementing the
       | Cedar File System Using Logging and Group Commit", Robert
       | Hagmann, Xerox PARC. SIGOPS Operating Systems Review, November
       | 1987.
       | 
       | That's the origin of the journaling approach used in post-FFS
       | unix file systems through the 90s. (I don't count ext2 as "post-
       | FFS", as it's basically FFS on a disk with LBA addressing)
        
         | gjvc wrote:
         | Xerox PARC strikes again
        
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