[HN Gopher] HYTRADBOI 2025 Conference Postmortem
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       HYTRADBOI 2025 Conference Postmortem
        
       Author : luu
       Score  : 73 points
       Date   : 2025-03-04 06:25 UTC (2 days ago)
        
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       | jamii wrote:
       | Worth mentioning that all the talks are published at
       | https://www.hytradboi.com/2025/#program.
        
       | thomasballinger wrote:
       | My favorite talk (although I haven't gotten through them all yet)
       | was Alex Miller's Enough with all the Raft
       | https://www.hytradboi.com/2025/2016d6c4-b08d-40b3-af2f-67926...
        
         | infogulch wrote:
         | I wonder how TigerBeetle fits in this mental framework for OLTP
         | replication.
        
           | _benedict wrote:
           | TigerBeetle uses VSR, which is basically a variant of
           | MultiPaxos/Raft.
        
             | jorangreef wrote:
             | Nit! It's a bit more historically accurate to say that
             | MultiPaxos/Raft are later variants of VSR since Brian Oki's
             | VSR predated Paxos by a year ('88 vs '89) and Liskov and
             | Cowling's revision of Brian's work in 2012 predated Raft by
             | two years (the papers are remarkably similar, but Raft
             | makes concessions for the sake of presentation).
        
               | _benedict wrote:
               | I know it was published first, we've talked about this
               | before :)
               | 
               | But, I'm not sure what was published first decide what's
               | a variant of what. I would say that, given the breadth of
               | research into variants of Paxos and the ways it can be
               | modified, it is most meaningful today to say they're all
               | variants of Paxos.
               | 
               | VSR having had little to no research or industry
               | application until recently has a pretty weak claim. It
               | does not appear to have influenced either Paxos or Raft.
               | Raft was influenced by Paxos, and even VSR revisited
               | discusses it in relation to these protocols.
        
           | jorangreef wrote:
           | We see things more in the light of Heidi Howard's recent
           | Flexible Quorums and her comments that all these ideas can be
           | mixed and matched.
           | 
           | Further, our reasons for not picking Raft are different, and
           | have more to do with "what makes Raft Raft", namely the
           | concessions around view change and replacing message passing
           | with RPC.
           | 
           | We've spoken a bit on this if you'd like to dive deeper:
           | 
           | https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tRgvaqpQPwE
        
       | agentultra wrote:
       | There were some great talks. The chat was satisfying. I like
       | Zulip and have some experience with it so it was easy to navigate
       | for me. It does take some getting used to though; a tips or FAQ
       | would probably help a lot of folks.
       | 
       | The concept and branding are great.
       | 
       | If another one ends up happening I'd do it again.
        
       | yawnxyz wrote:
       | > but now stripe supports pay-what-you-want directly (the docs
       | say that they don't, but the docs are wrong)
       | 
       | Does anyone have links / suggestions on how to set this up?
        
         | martingordon wrote:
         | You can either do it through the Stripe dashboard by creating a
         | Payment Link with a "Customer chooses what to pay" type or
         | through the API (see https://docs.stripe.com/payment-
         | links/api).
        
       | yawnxyz wrote:
       | the reason I didn't attend / pay this time btw was because last
       | time the talks were more about the "user-end of databases" and I
       | mostly work in product and design; this time it was about more
       | low-level stuff which is out of my scope. It's still cool stuff!
       | But just outside of my focus / realm
        
       | Mond_ wrote:
       | Feels strange to have posted exactly the same thing and gotten
       | exactly zero traction.
       | 
       | Really glad this event exists. I didn't know about it ahead of
       | time, so some amount of Marketing sounds sensible.
        
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