[HN Gopher] High-end California hotel begins banning children
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       High-end California hotel begins banning children
        
       Author : bookofjoe
       Score  : 19 points
       Date   : 2025-03-05 19:21 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.sfgate.com)
        
       | JumpCrisscross wrote:
       | "...any hotel that bans minors in California violates California
       | Civil Code 51 -- also known as the Unruh Civil Rights Act, which
       | provides blanket legal protections against discrimination in
       | California businesses."
       | 
       | Of course California technically bans adult-only public
       | accommodation.
       | 
       | Wonder if the solution is malicious compliance or conversion into
       | a non-public venue, _e.g._ "invitation only" or whatnot.
        
         | Ancalagon wrote:
         | Not that I agree with this but couldn't the easier way to do
         | this be to just serve alcohol everywhere?
        
           | lotsoweiners wrote:
           | Sounds good to me whether my kids are there or not.
        
           | JumpCrisscross wrote:
           | I was thinking clothing optional. But yours is a better idea.
        
           | jhbadger wrote:
           | I don't think that would work. Sure some places ban minors
           | from places _just_ serving alcohol, but restaurants that
           | serve alcohol alongside food are generally open to everyone
           | (even if they don 't serve alcohol to minors).
        
       | Yeul wrote:
       | Child free resorts are being advertised here in the Netherlands.
       | I think it's a great idea. Many people go on holiday to de-
       | stress.
       | 
       | Personally I plan my vacation time in off season September and
       | October but that's not an option for everyone.
        
         | Sohcahtoa82 wrote:
         | > Many people go on holiday to de-stress.
         | 
         | A friend of mine that has kids said that once you have kids,
         | there's no such thing as going on vacation. You're just being a
         | parent somewhere else.[0]
         | 
         | I personally am skipping the side-quest of parenthood, but have
         | certainly seen his claim play out. My wife and I were at
         | Universal Studio Hollywood, and some couple had a baby in a
         | carriage that wouldn't stop crying, and I just couldn't help
         | but think...imagine spending hundreds or even thousands of
         | dollars to go on vacation, and you still gotta deal with a
         | screaming baby.
         | 
         | I couldn't deal with that.
         | 
         | [0] For anyone saying "Just let the grandparents/some other
         | family take them for the week", this isn't an option for
         | everyone for various reasons. In my friend's case, it's because
         | he lives in London, but his parents live in the USA, and his
         | in-laws live in Malaysia.
        
           | lo_zamoyski wrote:
           | The fact that you characterize parenthood as a "side-quest"
           | confirms that you probably _shouldn 't_ become a parent.
        
             | K0balt wrote:
             | Yeah.
             | 
             | If you're not looking forward to it being the main event,
             | you probably should just skip it all together and save
             | yourself the disappointment.
             | 
             | Parenting is extremely undervalued in modern society.
        
           | bcrosby95 wrote:
           | If you have kids, you need a vacation from vacations. Even
           | well behaved kids require a _lot_ of extra logistics on the
           | part of the parents. It 's _significantly_ more work than
           | just staying at home.
           | 
           | I remember our first trip - I had two carseats strapped to my
           | back, rolling 1 large bag, and had and 3 other bags I was
           | carrying. The lines, the airplane ride, .... Then you get to
           | your destination, have to make sure they don't do anything
           | stupid while waiting 30-60 minutes for luggage, have to get
           | the (larger) car, have to get all the carseats in properly,
           | etc.
           | 
           | Figuring out food for everyone. Entertaining everyone. The
           | extra bathroom breaks. Etc.
           | 
           | One of my favorite is actually to just go camping. There's
           | not a ton of extra work involved. You have a home base. You
           | have entertainment. There's food but you pack it and its set
           | in stone rather than having to figure out food on the fly.
        
       | brongondwana wrote:
       | Just stayed at a couple of places in Portugal which were "adults
       | only" and it was fine. Also stayed at places which were
       | explicitly child friendly and designed with facilities for
       | children. Seems perfectly reasonable so long as there are a mix
       | of places in an area available for different needs.
       | 
       | (I guess a hotel which had children allowed and non-children
       | allowed sections far enough apart that you could have a child-
       | free area would be a possible workaround; in the same way that
       | not EVERY room needs to be handicap-friendly even if you need a
       | certain number which are)
        
         | pavel_lishin wrote:
         | I recently stayed at a group of resorts like this. The left-
         | hand side was geared towards families with young children; the
         | middle side was geared towards vacationing families; the right-
         | hand side seemed geared to singles there to engage in drunken
         | debauchery, like me.
        
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