[HN Gopher] The inspection paradox is everywhere (2015)
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       The inspection paradox is everywhere (2015)
        
       Author : ColinWright
       Score  : 55 points
       Date   : 2025-03-04 17:06 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | dang wrote:
       | Related. Others?
       | 
       |  _The Inspection Paradox is Everywhere: a surprising statistical
       | illusion_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20665234 - Aug
       | 2019 (4 comments)
       | 
       |  _Inspection Paradox (2015)_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18342560 - Oct 2018 (13
       | comments)
        
       | twic wrote:
       | One i noticed when working with star catalogue data decades ago:
       | most stars are in binary (or higher) systems. But most star
       | systems are single!
        
       | layer8 wrote:
       | The link to the "new version" 404s, but this is probably a copy
       | of it: https://medium.com/towards-data-science/the-inspection-
       | parad...
       | 
       | Also, this relates to renewal theory:
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewal_theory#Inspection_para...
        
       | lisper wrote:
       | "Inspection paradox" seems like a misnomer. It has nothing to do
       | with inspection and it isn't a paradox. It's just selection bias
       | [1] or more specifically, sampling bias [2]. In the case of class
       | sizes, are you asking the average class size from the point of
       | view of a student (N per class) or a teacher (1 per class)? Take
       | the extreme case where you have one class with 99 students and
       | one class with one student. From the student's point of view, the
       | average class has 98 students. From the teachers' point of view,
       | the average class has 50.
       | 
       | ---
       | 
       | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias
       | 
       | [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_bias
        
         | roenxi wrote:
         | It is called that because one of the most common places it
         | turns up is managers/inspectors doing routine work. Typically
         | if a manager checks in on their report they'll be stuck doing
         | something that takes a lot longer than usual. If an inspector
         | inspects ... I dunno, widgets, then the widget will typically
         | be unusual because of selection biases.
         | 
         | I'd expect that since this is the usual workplace introduction
         | to the economic value of knowing about the bias it got its name
         | there. A lot of confused people trying to work out why their
         | data makes no sense.
         | 
         | The other fun workplace paradox would be if HR ever tries to be
         | data driven, does some metrics over the engineering department
         | and works out that a degree is inversely correlated with any
         | attempted at measure of skill. Fortunately most HR persons are
         | not interested enough in stats to try that approach.
        
         | hatthew wrote:
         | It's a veridical paradox, because while it's logically
         | consistent it still runs counter to most people's intuition.
        
       | tshaddox wrote:
       | > The same effect applies to passenger planes. Airlines complain
       | that they are losing money because so many flights are nearly
       | empty. At the same time passengers complain that flying is
       | miserable because planes are too full. They could both be right.
       | When a flight is nearly empty, only a few passengers enjoy the
       | extra space. But when a flight is full, many passengers feel the
       | crunch.
       | 
       | But my complaints about flights being too full is based only on
       | my own experience. I don't think people are upset about airplanes
       | crowdedness because _they surveyed a bunch of people_ and
       | concluded from the survey that airplanes are crowded.
        
         | m463 wrote:
         | Even while they're empty, you don't have enough legroom.
        
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