[HN Gopher] Small German town starts testing geothermal power ut...
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       Small German town starts testing geothermal power utilizing new
       techniques
        
       Author : PaulHoule
       Score  : 78 points
       Date   : 2025-03-04 15:35 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (apnews.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (apnews.com)
        
       | kieranmaine wrote:
       | Some extra information on cost:
       | 
       | "According to Robert Winsloe, Eavor's executive vice-president of
       | origination, the company expects its AGS technology to achieve an
       | LCOE of $75/MWh by 2029-2030"
       | 
       | https://www.eavor.com/blog/eavors-innovation-promises-signif...
        
       | retromario wrote:
       | Geretsried (the town) apparently sits in an ideal location for
       | geothermal power and heat plants, in the same basin as Munich and
       | other surrounding municipalities who have been leveraging
       | geothermal energy to great effect.
       | 
       | https://geothermie-allianz.de/en/geothermal-in-bavaria/
       | 
       | I'm surprised we don't see more such projects.
        
         | barbazoo wrote:
         | Where it's feasible it might be cost. Perhaps it's still
         | cheaper to pollute than to implement projects like this.
        
         | lqet wrote:
         | > I'm surprised we don't see more such projects.
         | 
         | The main reason why geothermal drilling has a difficult stand
         | in Germany is the case of Staufen:
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staufen_im_Breisgau#Geothermal...
        
           | barbazoo wrote:
           | > The cause for this geological change has been identified as
           | a drilling operation conducted in the summer and autumn of
           | 2007 to provide geothermal heating to the city hall.
           | 
           | That project was about transferring heat. Perhaps for
           | geothermal electricity production which can happen away from
           | population centres this is less of an issue?
        
             | fifilura wrote:
             | There is a huge difference between "Geothermal Energy"
             | technologies.
             | 
             | The project in Staufen seems to be about a heat pump, which
             | is a really simple technology that can be used pretty much
             | everywhere. The problem seems to be that the drilling hole
             | hit a gypsum layer that started swelling. But this should
             | be pretty easy to know if it is in an area at risk.
             | 
             | Lots of houses here in Sweden has this technology, my house
             | has, and it is a 2 day project to drill a 150m hole for a
             | standalone house and install the heat pump, maybe $20-30k
             | investment.
             | 
             | Wikipedia claims Sweden is #2 in the world for geothermal
             | energy, but it is because of these simple heat pumps.
             | 
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_heating#Applicatio
             | n...
             | 
             | Heat pumps do not rely on hot water springs, it mainly just
             | recycles old heat from the sun that has been stored in the
             | ground over the season(s).
             | 
             | The project in the article talks about hot spring
             | geothermal energy, which is more complex because it
             | requires drilling holes several kilometers deep.
        
             | maxhille wrote:
             | There is no "away from population centres" in central
             | europe
        
         | Archelaos wrote:
         | For more details what already exists, there is a map of deep
         | geothermal power plants in the "Energie-Atlas Bayern" (in
         | German) published by the government of Bavaria:
         | 
         | https://www.karten.energieatlas.bayern.de/start/?c=677751,54...
         | 
         | The "Energie-Atlas Bayern" includes also maps of other kinds of
         | geothermal installations.
         | 
         | - A map of downhole heat exchangers:
         | 
         | https://www.karten.energieatlas.bayern.de/start/?c=677751,54...
         | 
         | - A map of groundwater heat pumps:
         | 
         | https://www.karten.energieatlas.bayern.de/start/?c=677751,54...
        
       | sockaddr wrote:
       | If you like small german towns, new power plants, and time travel
       | you should watch Dark
        
         | jjtheblunt wrote:
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_%28TV_series%29
        
       | toomuchtodo wrote:
       | Map of Europe indicating where geothermal district heating
       | resources are available: https://map.hugeo.hu/geo_DH/
       | 
       | Manual:
       | https://web.archive.org/web/20240619080217/http://geodh.eu/w...
        
       | belorn wrote:
       | It is an interesting test, but I wish they could provide a bit
       | more details. Doing some searches it seems that this is a EUR350
       | million project, for which EUR100 millions is direct grants given
       | by the government, and the remaining are special loans given out
       | by different green investment initiatives. It is planned to
       | generate 8.2 MW of electrical output (in practice they intend to
       | divert some for heating, which mean less total electrical output
       | but with higher amount of usable energy).
        
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