[HN Gopher] Ask HN: Are you a 40-year old software engineer with...
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       Ask HN: Are you a 40-year old software engineer without a job for >
       1 year?
        
       Large numbers of skilled software engineers are unemployed for
       months. Many are unemployed for more than a year.  Is this an
       arbitrage opportunity? What's the best way to harness this
       concentration of energy?
        
       Author : nextn
       Score  : 42 points
       Date   : 2025-03-02 20:11 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
       | rvba wrote:
       | New OS to beat Linux?
       | 
       | Consulting for smaller companies to give them cheap software that
       | helps them with their problems cheap? (And scales revenue with
       | many subscribers) - I could write one example that comes to my
       | mind but I dont want to soubd like a shill
       | 
       | Probably some of them are good, but software recruiters have
       | problems to identify who (this happens to many jobs, not only
       | software). I could write a book how recruitment and assessments
       | could be changed to identify real gems.
        
         | markus_zhang wrote:
         | What new OS has the potential to have a foothold?
        
           | mrcode007 wrote:
           | The new OS that doesn't exist yet. Linux is starting to show
           | its age, dominated by special interest groups and with the
           | upcoming C+Rust contention it's a perfect breeding ground for
           | the competitor to enter the scene. Best idea likely not to
           | come from corporate
        
           | figassis wrote:
           | I would say a Unix OS that can leverage existing Unix/linux
           | tools like OSX, but more open than, and with real UX effort,
           | native UI, not the gnome/kde, whatever stuff. Or at least
           | something that has a Linux subsystem like windows does.
        
           | nradov wrote:
           | A new OS to replace the incumbents will only be possible in
           | conjunction with a disruptive innovation in hardware. The
           | device driver issue makes it effectively impossible to build
           | a new OS for PCs, tablets, or smartphones. We don't know what
           | the next disruptive hardware form factor will look like yet:
           | a lot of people are betting big on AR/VR goggles but it could
           | be something else totally unexpected.
        
       | profsummergig wrote:
       | Serious question: what's the definition of "skilled software
       | engineer"?
        
         | ninetyninenine wrote:
         | Someone you would consider skilled. Your own personal
         | definition of this would suffice.
         | 
         | I suspect though there isn't a lot of these people that are
         | unemployed. There's more "mediocre" engineers that are in this
         | zone.
        
           | ivewonyoung wrote:
           | Perhaps but it may also include people that were consciously
           | or unconsciously passed on because of their age.
        
       | mrcode007 wrote:
       | Multiple possibilities exist but everything depends on context
       | and the skill set.
       | 
       | One option is to start a consulting business with a group of
       | engineers (essentially a market equivalent of a union but with
       | more legal protections) and start charging very high market rates
       | and nickel-and-dime the client hedge fund style with pass-through
       | fees for everything. Use the knowledge of former jobs' contracts
       | and undercut on price.
       | 
       | If the skill set is very niche and highly specialized you could
       | even attempt cornering the market by recruiting people away that
       | are still employed and sell back their services through the
       | consulting gig (offer profit share as a sweetener, etc.)
        
       | MasterScrat wrote:
       | I suspect the largest opportunity right now is to leverage
       | whichever industry you have experience in, and build vertical
       | tooling that leverages LLM.
        
       | ninetyninenine wrote:
       | Is it that bad?
        
       | irq-1 wrote:
       | The best way to harness this is to offer what companies don't:
       | unlimited time off, no return-to-office, health insurance and
       | savings plans that don't kick-back to the company, flat(ter)
       | management, no all-hands meetings...
        
       | nitwit005 wrote:
       | It sounds like you're proposing hiring people for less than they
       | used to make. That can absolutely work.
       | 
       | The problem tends to be that high unemployment tends to coincide
       | with economic downturns. It's hard to get investment to start a
       | business during such a downturn.
        
       | colesantiago wrote:
       | > Is this an arbitrage opportunity? What's the best way to
       | harness this concentration of energy?
       | 
       | Here is a profitable idea.
       | 
       | Make a group decision and choose a target profitable SaaS company
       | or startup of your choice, replicate it with AI and race the
       | target SaaS company to near zero in pricing and sell your
       | services as the cheapest offering to SMEs and enterprises
       | (assuming you guys have experience in this area)
       | 
       | Keep it running or sell it to another business and the collective
       | reaps the profits once the target SaaS company is dead or is
       | unable to compete.
       | 
       | Repeat for all or any companies or startups that you wish should
       | not exist or that laid you off in the past
        
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