[HN Gopher] Living in your programming environment [pdf]
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       Living in your programming environment [pdf]
        
       Author : andsoitis
       Score  : 45 points
       Date   : 2025-02-23 09:54 UTC (3 days ago)
        
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       | cmrdporcupine wrote:
       | LambdaMOO was(is) like this. And even more literally than in
       | Smalltalk. Persistent objects, object oriented programming
       | language, live code editing, object manipulation, programming
       | right in the world, with immediate and shared effect.
       | 
       | But unlike a Smalltalk environment, the things you were editing
       | were (in metaphor at least) living narrative "world" objects like
       | rooms, objects, characters, etc. meant to give a (text-based)
       | "VR" aspect. And it was multiuser, so collaborative.
       | 
       | It's a compelling, though exotic, way of making things.
       | 
       | I'm attempting to defibrilate the whole thing here:
       | https://github.com/rdaum/moor
        
       | vindarel wrote:
       | Everyone can try the Medley Lisp machine in the browser today!
       | https://interlisp.org/project/status/2024medleyannualreport/
        
         | ynniv wrote:
         | For a second I thought it had been ported to wasm! This is
         | still a browser based VNC
        
           | xkriva11 wrote:
           | http://wasm.interlisp.org/medley.html
        
       | corysama wrote:
       | If you'd like to literally live, breathe and walk around inside
       | of your programming environment with your colleagues, set up your
       | own https://dynamicland.org/ :D
        
         | neurocline wrote:
         | Every time I look at one of their demos, I want to cry and say
         | "I want this to be real". And then years pass, and there's
         | another demo, and I'm re-reminded. This is more than vaporware,
         | to be sure. But it's still nothing I can use in my day-to-day.
         | Yes, it's research. It still makes me sad to see a possible
         | future but no clear idea as to when it could become real.
        
         | superb_dev wrote:
         | Can you actually run your own Dynamicland? I couldn't find any
         | info about that easily on their website
        
           | corysama wrote:
           | So... I just did a little reading. And, I get the impression
           | that if you want to do what I was suggesting, you'd have to
           | physically walk up and talk to Brett Victor about it.
           | https://dynamicland.org/2024/Is_Realtalk_open_source/ The
           | entire goal of the project is in-person physical interaction.
        
       | dargscisyhp wrote:
       | You can already do this using Emacs with EXWM. I've been living
       | this way for years.
        
         | jpitz wrote:
         | Good ole M-x butterfly
        
       | hiAndrewQuinn wrote:
       | At a glance I'm not totally sure I see if this is qualitatively
       | different from "living in the shell." I definitely find myself
       | spinning up new tools constantly, but they're usually in shell or
       | Python, not Smalltalk.
        
       | agambrahma wrote:
       | This is just a "lisp image", right? [with the attendant pros/cons
       | ...]
        
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