[HN Gopher] Ultima VII: Revisited
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       Ultima VII: Revisited
        
       Author : ibobev
       Score  : 108 points
       Date   : 2025-02-23 16:03 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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       | ryandrake wrote:
       | Reminds me a little of the Ultima V - Lazarus[1] project, where
       | volunteers re-implemented the entire game in the Dungeon Siege 3D
       | engine. They also added tons of new characters and dialog, side
       | quests, a richer plot, and new artwork and music. They did all
       | this and managed to keep the major plot and game elements the
       | same. They actually managed to greatly improve on what is
       | unarguably :) the best Ultima of the series.
       | 
       | 1: https://www.u5lazarus.com
        
         | frost_knight wrote:
         | I think Lazarus is one of the greatest game mods ever made.
         | They even added the option to become an evil Avatar and side
         | with Blackthorn.
        
         | conception wrote:
         | How do they handle hidden dialogue options? One of the most
         | amazing things about the series before 3d was you just talked
         | to people about things and often they had something to say
         | about the topic. Like you can ask just about anyone about the
         | avatar or blackthorn. There's a donkey that figures out he's
         | inside a video game, etc.
        
       | Dwedit wrote:
       | Would any code from the Exult project be useful to help implement
       | the gameplay?
        
       | chrisco23 wrote:
       | Looks cool. I loved Ultima II and III as a kid. Even wrote some
       | text walk-throughs back then. Played them on Apple //e and //c,
       | the last Apple products I ever owned (or ever will). I also
       | ditched all Windows about 25 years ago.
       | 
       | I suppose to play on Linux though, I would need to run some Wine
       | setup huh?
        
         | kej wrote:
         | DOSBox if you want to run them locally, or a web browser if you
         | want to play them immediately:
         | https://archive.org/details/msdos_Ultima_III_-_Exodus_1983
        
       | ChrisArchitect wrote:
       | Related:
       | 
       |  _Exult: Recreating Ultima VII for modern operating systems_
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43140645
        
       | steanne wrote:
       | this is just a recreation, not an expansion, but xu4 is playable
       | on linux without wine.
       | 
       | https://xu4.sourceforge.net/
        
       | layer8 wrote:
       | It's still isometric, luckily. I always wanted to have Ultima VII
       | with Ultima VIII perspective, and this is kind of a superset of
       | that.
        
         | hinkley wrote:
         | I gave up on Ultima VII when some wolves attacked my party in
         | the forest and I couldn't find my downed party member.
         | 
         | That was the day and age when you only had the manual to help
         | you figure out UI problems instead of asking people on The
         | Internet. By the time I had access to somewhere to ask I was
         | too busy playing Starflight. Which for the kids is the second
         | version of No Man's Sky, or No Man's Sky is the third version
         | of Starflight.
        
       | seasluggy wrote:
       | Ultima online was my one and only Ultima and it's weird to get
       | pangs of nostalgia from Ultimas that I've never played.
        
         | jghn wrote:
         | IIRC the UO alpha looked even more like U7
        
       | CSMastermind wrote:
       | I never played the Ultima games but I did have a crippling Ultima
       | Online addiction in high school for two years.
       | 
       | This video definitely brought back some memories.
        
         | holografix wrote:
         | "Eat that kal vas flam and have a side of in nox you PK sob!"
        
           | chongli wrote:
           | Being a PK (as well as a thief/PK hybrid) in UO is some of
           | the most fun I've ever had in a video game. There's nothing
           | quite like the adrenaline rush of being a fugitive and
           | surviving, picking people off and scavenging what you can
           | before the fuzz arrive.
           | 
           | PKing had a deleterious effect on the community -- I'll admit
           | -- but I had fun as both a PK and as a victim trying to
           | escape or exact revenge. UO (pre-Renaissance) remains the
           | multiplayer game with the richest social dynamics I've ever
           | played. When they finally got rid of non-consensual PKing
           | they totally destroyed this richness. Instead of behaving
           | like real people in a community who work together to solve
           | their own problems they had the benefit of inviolable game
           | mechanics to protect them.
           | 
           | So people's reliance on one another disintegrated and they
           | stopped engaging with each other. Without the threat of
           | violence to settle things, people became anti-social and had
           | no problem being very rude to one another. It was tragic!
        
         | chongli wrote:
         | Same! I played a ton of UO and met many friends on it. Never
         | played any of the single-player series for more than a few
         | minutes. Played some Ultima Underworld which appeals to me but
         | it didn't stick.
         | 
         | I have played a lot of Ultima-inspired games though. The Exile
         | and Avernum series by Spiderweb Software [1] are childhood
         | favourites. I also really loved Arx Fatalis [2], a love letter
         | to Ultima Underworld.
         | 
         | [1] http://www.spidweb.com
         | 
         | [2] https://www.gog.com/en/game/arx_fatalis
        
       | gfkclzhzo wrote:
       | This is remarkable. I tried to replay U7 over the pandemic and it
       | was just too clunky, even with Exult. This looks like it
       | addresses my issues while perserving the original aesthetic.
       | 
       | AI voice acting on-the-fly from in-game text would be slick.
       | 
       | Tangent - Do any games let you set a speed multiplier for in-game
       | speech? I'd love to run dialog at 1.5x like I do for podcasts.
        
       | hinkley wrote:
       | Ultima VII ran in real mode and it wanted every single kilobyte
       | of memory that it could steal away from DOS.
       | 
       | They had some fancy optimized version of HIMEM that worked a
       | little bit better than the stock DOS one and people started using
       | it on all of their boot disks not just the one for Ultima VII.
        
         | Dwedit wrote:
         | Ultima VII doesn't run in Real Mode, it runs in Unreal Mode.
         | 
         | https://wiki.ultimacodex.com/wiki/Voodoo_Memory_Manager
        
       | hinkley wrote:
       | Did anyone else ever get the glitch where the game switched from
       | color to red and black? That was truly sinister.
        
       | hinkley wrote:
       | Dear Larian Studios,
       | 
       | I have been a very good boy this year, and for Christmas I would
       | like...
        
       | kibwen wrote:
       | And if anybody's looking for a new game with the Ultima vibe, I
       | highly recommend Moonring, a free indie game from one of the
       | creators of Fable:
       | https://store.steampowered.com/app/2373630/Moonring/
        
         | fnordlord wrote:
         | Wow. Thanks. It's amazing that games like these exist for years
         | on Steam and never surface when I search for new games with
         | those tags.
        
       | gokaygurcan wrote:
       | Just uninstalled Akalabeth, Ultima 1, 2 and 3 last week. I was
       | planning to play again but couldn't find any time because of many
       | reasons. Plan was to continue with the rest of the series
       | afterwards. If you're looking for them, GOG is your friend.
       | 
       | On a totally irrelevant note, I know at this point it doesn't
       | mean much to Broadsword to invest more into UO, but I really
       | can't justify the lack of macOS client.
        
         | UberFly wrote:
         | Akalabeth was my first experience as a kid seeing a dungeon
         | crawler game and I still feel the excitement and wonder of it.
        
       | metadat wrote:
       | See also related discussion from yesterday:
       | 
       |  _Exult: Recreating Ultima VII for modern operating systems_
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43140645 (48 comments)
        
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