[HN Gopher] CEO Simulator: Startup Edition
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CEO Simulator: Startup Edition
Author : atorok
Score : 203 points
Date : 2025-02-19 14:20 UTC (4 days ago)
(HTM) web link (ceosimulator.vercel.app)
(TXT) w3m dump (ceosimulator.vercel.app)
| code_martial wrote:
| I can't watch the tutorial because YouTube insists on a sign-in.
| -_-
| thih9 wrote:
| Same here. Opening the tutorial video directly [1] in a
| different browser and with clear cookies worked for me.
|
| I rarely see this login wall, usually it happens in combination
| with hn posts.
|
| [1]: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dSpE4wgQGnY
| thih9 wrote:
| It's hard to read cards on mobile.
|
| If I tap a card to read the full text, the card then covers other
| cards. If I tap on another card, it now covers the rest. And if I
| tap the original card to remember a detail from the description,
| this now plays the card.
|
| Edit: Looks like clicking anywhere else "deselects" the active
| cards - this way it is possible to read the description of all
| cards at any time without playing any.
| MIC132 wrote:
| You can tap off of cards to shrink them back.
| 0wis wrote:
| But then you choose it. I misselected several times
| MIC132 wrote:
| Weird, I had no problems deselecting cards by just tapping
| off to the side. Usually bottom right.
| thih9 wrote:
| On mobile screens the cards that were previously selected
| take a lot of space in the background; if you click that
| background card, intending to "deselect" the foreground
| card, then you suddenly play the background card. But
| yes, if you click anywhere else then all cards are
| deselected. Still, I find this very unintuitive.
| atorok wrote:
| I changed the behavior now: tap and hold magnifies it and
| short tap select the card. At least with my fingers now I
| was able to avoid the mentioned side effects
| MIC132 wrote:
| Yeah, the part where clicking a non-selected card can
| play it is very unintuitive.
|
| I was just remarking on the deselecting part, since I
| didn't have much trouble with it. Might vary per specific
| resolution/aspect ration.
| ipnon wrote:
| It's hard to believe you used to be able to get a normal job at a
| local company in your hometown and afford a house, car and
| children working 40 hours a week.
| DANmode wrote:
| > Q: Is working overtime mandatory if I don't have enough
| hours?
|
| > A: No, overtime is optional and comes with risks to CEO
| Mental Health.
| hnthrow90348765 wrote:
| Like the game, it's still luck. You can luck out and get a 20
| hr/week job writing simple code from home and coast.
| jjice wrote:
| It's fully dependent on your hometown's COL. my home town is a
| moderately sized, but mostly forgettable city in the eastern
| time zone. This is absolutely possible there if you're in
| probably 80% of the suburbs, but you may struggle to be in the
| very nice few towns.
| 01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote:
| They say taxes were higher at the top end, might be worth a
| shot
| aprilthird2021 wrote:
| Instead multimillionaire property owners in California pay no
| property tax because they're old and people who just bought a
| house with young kids pay all the tax. Most regressive tax
| system ever devised, designed to keep us underpopulated and
| our government services underfunded
| sroussey wrote:
| That's not the purpose. The purpose is for people to age in
| place. Not have to move out of state at 75 because taxes on
| your home skyrocketed. Which is what happened and the
| population voted in a proposition to stop it. Yes, it had
| unintended consequences like all government things.
| antognini wrote:
| Wouldn't it make more sense for people to downsize to
| smaller homes as they age? Instead we have incentivized
| empty nesters to stay in huge homes with 5 bedrooms while
| young families have to cram into 1 bedroom condos.
| bobthepanda wrote:
| If we wanted to keep old people in homes we could've
| written a tailored program for old people.
|
| As it stands, Prop 13 was sold as that, but also
| essentially used a sledgehammer on a thumbtack, because
| it applies to any property regardless of the age of the
| property owner, and also to commercial and industrial
| property. Not to mention, old people who want to downsize
| (say, into a home without stairs to fall down) can't
| afford to because of the massive jump in property taxes
| that would entail.
| sepositus wrote:
| Have you spent much time in non-urban areas? I live in a <10k
| town and it's very much possible to achieve that here. I mean,
| not working at McDonald's, but our industry zone has plenty of
| good-paying opportunities in the mechanical, electrical,
| engineering, and even aerospace fields (drones, mostly). I have
| plenty of blue-collar friends working in these areas, and they
| all have homes with families.
|
| We also have a huge green energy sector due to the natural
| geography. Our local community college even has a full program
| you can go through and come out making $35-40/hr.
| macNchz wrote:
| My rural American hometown has surprisingly expensive homes
| because of highly restrictive building codes, many of the
| houses are owned by retired people or wealthy people from out
| of town, there's little industry to speak of, and multiple
| people from my 30-student 8th grade graduating class who
| stayed in town and did not leave for college have now died of
| heroin overdoses.
| sepositus wrote:
| Yeah, there will always be counter-examples to everything,
| especially given the size of the U.S. However, that same
| sort of town would have existed 60 years ago, anyway (minus
| the Herion problem, likely). Perhaps they are more common
| now, but my point is that cities like mine _do_ still
| exist. It's not entirely lost yet.
| CtrlAltmanDel wrote:
| How common is your un-named city? <10k pop, combination
| of economic opportunity and still affordable (after wfh
| tech crowd moved in) for someone starting out earning
| $40/hr to afford a house and family.
| sepositus wrote:
| Well this is the internet, so I'm not going to
| voluntarily dox myself :) As to your question, I'm not
| sure how common it is. There's another city about 30
| minutes from me that has _almost_ the same scenario, it's
| just housing is more expensive because it's closer to a
| major city.
| nobodyandproud wrote:
| That sounds magical. Is it subject to just one or two
| large companies or industries?
| behringer wrote:
| Don't bank on it unless you're well skilled and/or have an
| in. Also let's hope you're OK working in factory/industrial
| jobs. A desk job in rural areas pays half what they do in the
| urban areas.
|
| I'm guessing industrial jobs pay just as poorly compared to
| those in the cities.
| aprilthird2021 wrote:
| I moved from Memphis, TN to Silicon Valley and it took me 10
| years of working in software to be in the market for a home.
| Meanwhile my friends who worked odd jobs in sandwich shops or
| theatres or filming / taking photographs for magazines all had
| homes a few years after we graduated.
|
| It's a failure of the government that they allowed the old,
| senile landed gentry in parts of our country, especially
| California, to effectively be able to veto all new building
| while paying no property tax to fund our public services.
| bigfishrunning wrote:
| I'm doing this right now, north of Pittsburgh. It's still
| possible
| nickpinkston wrote:
| I was just back in my hometown of New Castle (~1 hr north)
| for TG, and it's the same story there.
|
| Though most professional people need to drive to Pittsburgh
| or similar big city to get a decent job.
| mlna wrote:
| Great game. I love it so much.
| binbag wrote:
| Brilliant. This is my life.
| atorok wrote:
| Ah this is a quote I was looking for :D
| saaaaaam wrote:
| Love this. However, when I got a high score I appeared twice on
| the leader board for some reason. Another time I appeared just as
| "name" and my high score which would have put me at #1 at that
| point (12090!) didn't get entered at all.
|
| I also got duplicate cards a few times - which might be
| intentional, but was a little annoying.
|
| Very addictive in a silly fun way. Well done :)
| atorok wrote:
| Lova your last comment :D
|
| I fixed the first issue: I got also an alert at the same time
| that I ran out of quota on the db so had to increase it. You
| should see your point now. The duplicate cards issue is
| strange.. I'll have to debug that a bit more
| ChosenEnd wrote:
| SAM, I can see your score, I just dethroned you with 12280.
| dijksterhuis wrote:
| Tech Debt score of +5 at the end. Is it obvious I'm a software
| engineer?
|
| bug notes
|
| - couple of times a card seemed to get magically selected for me,
| i've got "tapping = clicking" disabled on my trackpad, so not
| sure how those happened, hopefully was me fat fingering. usually
| i didn't even have time to see the new card though, which makes
| me think it might be some bug with noticing inputs? could be my
| fat fingers tho.
|
| - When I have spare meeting time left over, I was able to select
| an objective that had moved as a result of a card at the start of
| the day, could infinitely roll the dice with nothing happening. I
| could at least select a different objective to make things move
| forward tho.
| atorok wrote:
| Thanks, lol, you deserve a well-architected wink ;)
|
| Thanks for these bug reports, nice and detailed so I'll be able
| to find a fix for them
| pkkm wrote:
| > I was able to select an objective that had moved as a result
| of a card at the start of the day, could infinitely roll the
| dice with nothing happening.
|
| Same bug here, in Firefox 128.
|
| Also, while we're making suggestions, would it be possible to
| replace the tutorial balloon boxes with something that's less
| in the way? I like built-in hints and don't want to turn them
| off, but sometimes they can be a bit annoying when they cover
| up parts of the game UI. I would prefer some kind of animated
| glow behind the parts of the game I'm supposed to click on
| (cards, bars, or the die) plus a statically positioned
| explanation box to the side or on the bottom. That would make
| the hints unobtrusive enough that there would be no need to
| provide an option to turn them off.
| atorok wrote:
| Can you refresh the browser and see if it's fixed? I also
| made the hints slightly transparent as a quick temp fix, that
| needs a bit more time and testing
| pkkm wrote:
| Looks fixed to me, thanks! Now the die doesn't roll when I
| select an objective that has moved. That works, though I
| would prefer if these objectives were simply unselectable
| and the game had some kind of visual indication of which
| objectives you can select. Kind of like desktop GUIs, which
| grey out buttons you can't click rather than letting you
| click them but making them do nothing. I think that would
| make the game UI a bit "smoother" and more pleasant to use.
|
| EDIT: This would combine very well with my suggestion from
| the previous comment: make the cards glow in the card
| selection stage, make the selectable objectives glow in the
| objective selection stage, and make the die glow when it
| should be rolled. That would let you get rid of two
| microfrustrations at once: the hints that cover the UI and
| the die that can be clicked but doesn't roll. If you also
| replaced the modal tutorial popup at the start with a top
| or side button, that would drop the UI microfrustrations to
| zero.
|
| Also, I've just noticed that the cards are a bit blurry
| when zoomed in on hover.
|
| I hope the feedback was helpful!
| thomasjudge wrote:
| "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."
| esafak wrote:
| Some CEOs are clearly winning. Global thermonuclear war has not
| broken out yet either :)
| ilikehurdles wrote:
| I played a card that said tech debt drops by 4 thinking it's a
| good thing, but it knocked me out of the game
| intelVISA wrote:
| You thought too much, that makes investors uneasy.
| atorok wrote:
| ROFL this comment made my day
| alberth wrote:
| I didn't understand how people were scoring so high until I saw
| in the Settings that you can increase the Working Hours to 24,
| and your Hand size to 10.
|
| The game immediately became less fun. I was able to max
| everything out in green in just a few days.
| gwerbret wrote:
| "Note, modifying these settings means your score will not be
| added to the leaderboard!"
| KronisLV wrote:
| If you set the amount of working hours per day to 14, the game
| suddenly becomes easy. :')
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