[HN Gopher] I'm running for the OSI board maybe
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       I'm running for the OSI board maybe
        
       Author : elboulangero
       Score  : 35 points
       Date   : 2025-02-20 23:31 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | rafram wrote:
       | This sucks, but they do list other times in UTC (well, GMT,
       | actually), so it's not unexpected IMO.
        
         | seabass-labrax wrote:
         | GMT is a bizarre choice for an international organization based
         | in California, too. GMT isn't used in the summer, and the dates
         | when the time switches from GMT to BST and from PST to PDT
         | aren't the same! That alone has caused confusion in every
         | international organization I've been involved with. At least
         | with UTC one can reasonably expect to use it throughout the
         | entire year.
        
       | sevg wrote:
       | It's an awkward situation for sure and the timezone could have
       | been clearer.
       | 
       | But I also feel like if there's no timezone for a deadline then
       | you should assume the worst case (which here would be UTC) and
       | make sure you submit before?
       | 
       | The author left it so late that in 95% of the world it was no
       | longer the 17th Feb.
        
         | orra wrote:
         | Ah but UTC isn't the worst case: it's UTC+14.
         | 
         | I agree with the author: the timezone of the organisation is
         | what I'd expect.
        
           | sevg wrote:
           | > Ah but UTC isn't the worst case: it's UTC+14.
           | 
           | The worst _reasonable_ case is UTC. Nobody is thinking
           | UTC+14.
           | 
           | > I agree with the author: the timezone of the organisation
           | is what I'd expect.
           | 
           | If the job was a local office job, I'd expect a local time
           | zone. But the board of directors isn't restricted to
           | California or even the USA.
        
             | maxboone wrote:
             | AOE times are pretty common in academic and CS circles, it
             | is the standard for IEEE 802:
             | https://www.ieee802.org/16/aoe.html
        
               | sevg wrote:
               | The OSI post that the author links to specifies the
               | voting deadline in GMT (effectively UTC) in the sentence
               | immediately preceding the timeline diagram.
               | 
               | So it can be reasonably inferred that they're generally
               | using GMT/UTC in the rest of their timeline, rather than
               | AOE, UTC+14 or anything else out of the ordinary.
        
       | worik wrote:
       | No excuses for this.
       | 
       | They should accept they made a mistake and accept the nomination.
       | 
       | You cannot assume a timezone. Especially as a computer
       | programmer, we should know that. It was Feb 17 somewhere in the
       | world until 12:00 Feb 18 UTC
        
       | seabass-labrax wrote:
       | In the quoted email, it is stated that to "ensure a fair process,
       | [the OSI] must adhere to the deadline for all candidates". I'm
       | not sure what the OSI or their stakeholders have to gain by
       | rejecting nominations for the sake of the few hours that result
       | from timezone differences. The purpose of a deadline is to
       | provide enough time to vet submissions to remove candidates who
       | are ineligible or insincere, clear up any confusion stemming from
       | mistakes in the submission and so on. It's not a race!
        
       | EarlKing wrote:
       | Even if this is entirely innocent and the result of someone
       | trying to do the right thing... not a good look. They should
       | honestly accept his candidacy and then revise the submission
       | guidelines to be more specific in the future. To do otherwise
       | makes it look like they're trying to exclude candidates to ensure
       | a pre-selected candidate runs unopposed.
        
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