[HN Gopher] Nothing about us without us
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       Nothing about us without us
        
       Author : timeon
       Score  : 29 points
       Date   : 2025-02-16 13:17 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
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       | tjpnz wrote:
       | >The slogan also gained popularity during World War II when the
       | Munich Agreement was signed without the presence of
       | Czechoslovakia.
        
       | dataflow wrote:
       | The definition _as written_ sounds kind of extreme? It basically
       | says your representatives have to take a referendum on any policy
       | that could possibly affect you... increasing (or decreasing)
       | taxes, setting rules for driving on the road, etc. I don 't
       | imagine that was the intent?
        
         | 7speter wrote:
         | At the very least, a public comment period would seem to
         | suffice.
        
       | evolve2k wrote:
       | This is commonly used in disability care. It sets the standard to
       | strongly include the person/people affected in decisions that
       | affect them. It is very helpful to address unequal power dynamics
       | especially where those charged with providing care have unequal
       | power with the recipient; think teacher, surgery, disability care
       | etc.
       | 
       | In practical terms, it encourages officers and practitioners to
       | stop assuming and do the work to bridge the gap and attempt to
       | find out as best they can what the person affected would like to
       | happen. It leads to much superior decision making as surprise,
       | suprise, finding out what a user really wants over just assuming
       | (and often missing important details), amazingly, leads to much
       | more informed and improved decision making that also work better
       | for the people involved and affected.
        
       | NullPrefix wrote:
       | So when they make murder laws, should hardcore killers also
       | directly participate in the law making?
        
       | yapyap wrote:
       | Sounds like it's just a counter to "for the people, not by the
       | people"
        
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