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Finding Flow: Escaping digital distractions through deep work and
slow living
Author : articsputnik
Score : 163 points
Date : 2025-02-16 11:40 UTC (11 hours ago)
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| isodev wrote:
| Nice post. It really is a challenge to find time and mental space
| for one's creative moments when everything around us is literally
| optimised to maximise engagement. Even places like
| Netflix/Prime/AppleTV where we're supposed to go for recreation,
| would rather you quickly flick through several "shallow"
| productions than invest in something deep and meaningful.
| rednafi wrote:
| Don't pay for those--problem solved. No one is forcing us to do
| any of these things.
|
| Yelling at the cloud will rarely solve this. Blaming profit
| mega-corps for our woes is like trying to warm up the Earth to
| battle winter instead of just getting a thermostat or moving to
| a warmer climate.
| memhole wrote:
| I really appreciated this line on the Vaticans' thoughts on
| AI:
|
| The twentieth-century philosopher Nicholas Berdyaev observed
| that people often blame machines for personal and social
| problems; however, "this only humiliates man and does not
| correspond to his dignity," for "it is unworthy to transfer
| responsibility from man to a machine."
| rednafi wrote:
| Spot on. I say this every time someone complains that they
| can't stop scrolling Instagram, TikTok, or YouTube Shorts.
| Just don't install those apps. Browsing them from a mobile
| browser is awful without the apps, and if you can manage to
| live like that for a few days, you'll stop doing it.
| isodev wrote:
| > Don't pay for those--problem solved
|
| Ah yes, the dream where "vote with your wallet" was supposed
| to be a thing. The reality is though, these corporations are
| so big and have so much unbounded power in real life stuff
| (including legislation and policy) that my wallet is
| meaningless to their existnace.
|
| Also, not paying for them just means they will try to find me
| whever I'm (through ads, notifications, related products) and
| push some emotional buttons so I will join them, or at least
| sign up for something that gives them data points.
| kasey_junk wrote:
| The parent isn't suggesting not to buy things to influence
| what the corporations are doing. They are suggesting that
| if you, yourself, are unhappy with a services impact on
| you, then the first and most obvious step is to stop paying
| for it. That's a reasonably surefire way to remove that
| distraction.
|
| Conversely, if you don't like the impact of something on
| your life, but cannot bring yourself to remove it, that is
| almost exactly the definition of addiction and you should
| probably go looking for help.
| lithocarpus wrote:
| While we do have agency to decide not to use addictive
| technology, it's not always that simple.
|
| For many of us, the addictive technology is tightly
| integrated with technology that we want or need to use. For
| example, I use local facebook groups for certain things, I
| use youtube to learn how to do things, I sometimes use
| instagram to communicate with certain people who prefer that.
| All of these have integrated those horrible short videos that
| can become very addictive - I've seen myself get stuck there,
| and many people I know who were never tech or phone addicts
| before this technology came around, including my mom.
|
| I could and maybe should radically change my life and just
| not use these things - facebook and instgram I could get by
| without, but youtube would be difficult - I am a musician and
| use it for finding music, and also for how to do or fix
| anything.
|
| I finally three months ago got a combination of firefox
| extensions and android apps to make it impossible for me to
| see these short videos, as well as all social media feeds
| etc, unless I specifically go change the settings to bring
| them back. And I've managed to avoid doing that. So in total
| over the last three months I've spent about 10 minutes
| watching the horrible short videos (when some slipped through
| the cracks) compared to before where I often found myself
| stuck there for an hour or two. I do still waste time on the
| internet often, but it's usually in a specific online
| community that's stuff I want to read and not random crap the
| algorithm gives me.
|
| I think it's like trying to quit a sugar addiction while
| having a donut strapped to your hand at all times. It really
| makes it easier if you can get rid of the donut. But when the
| donut is tied to your work or hobbies and there's no way to
| do the work or hobbies without the donut being there, it's
| hard. It can be done, and many people do it, but there are
| also many people who would choose to never see the donut if
| that option was easily available, but it's not.
| politelemon wrote:
| Indeed. Even the deep and meaningful are part of the same goal,
| ecosystem retention. The aim is to keep serving slop and
| convincing you that you necessarily need entertainment of this
| specific type and no other.
|
| The only answer is to not engage. Entertainment can be of many
| kinds, some simple kinds too.
| Aurornis wrote:
| > Even places like Netflix/Prime/AppleTV where we're supposed
| to go for recreation, would rather you quickly flick through
| several "shallow" productions than invest in something deep and
| meaningful.
|
| That's not my experience at all.
|
| I rarely watch TV, so when I sit down I'm often looking for a
| good movie to watch. Much of the content these days is long,
| multi-episode shows that they want you to get invested in for
| 5-10 hours per season.
| rednafi wrote:
| I don't have any subscriptions except for rent, transportation, a
| cloud VM, and a domain for my blog, and that has made an
| incredible difference.
|
| This doesn't mean I don't watch movies or have fun--it's just
| that watching movies requires jumping through a few hoops for me,
| so I plan carefully before settling in to watch something.
|
| Also, not owning a device to play games and waste hours was
| another conscious decision I made a while ago. Kicking the TV out
| of your bedroom is a neat trick that works for many.
|
| I still get distracted and doomscroll sometimes, but usually
| those are planned sessions. Not reading the news or caring about
| strangers' opinions has done wonders for my psyche.
|
| After a few years, all of this comes naturally to me, but when I
| talk to people, the first thing they're amazed by is how I manage
| to live like this.
| FollowingTheDao wrote:
| Can you keep going? Because if you met me I am sure you would
| ask; "How do you live like that?"
| rednafi wrote:
| Depends on what you mean by "keep going." Does a decade and a
| half mean I became successful? Then yeah.
|
| I come from a middle-class SEA family, where education and
| frugality are bolted into our DNA, even when we can afford
| nice things. So it's a bit easier for me.
|
| However, I see my left-brained Western friends struggle with
| this quite a lot. Many self-diagnose as having ADHD, need
| therapy, and can't seem to win the fight against all the
| nonsense large corporations throw at us. So I understand that
| it's probably difficult.
| FollowingTheDao wrote:
| I mean can you keep going.
|
| Every one under heaven says that our Way is greatly like
| folly. But it is just because it is great, that it seems
| like folly. As for things that do not seem like folly --
| well, there can be no question about their smallness! Here
| are my three treasures. Guard and keep them! The first is
| pity; the second, frugality; the third, refusal to be
| 'foremost of all things under heaven'. For only he that
| pities is truly able to be brave; Only he that is frugal is
| able to be profuse. Only he that refuses to be foremost of
| all things Is truly able to become chief of all Ministers.
|
| At present your bravery is not based on pity, nor your
| profusion on frugality, nor your vanguard on your rear; and
| this is death. But pity cannot fight without conquering or
| guard without saving. Heaven arms with pity those whom it
| would not see destroyed.
| chrisweekly wrote:
| attribution?
|
| (please and thanks)
| david_allison wrote:
| Three Treasures (in Taoism)
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Treasures_(Taoism)#Ta
| o_T...
| itronitron wrote:
| " the wise will laugh at me, but the foolish will
| understand "
| FollowingTheDao wrote:
| The wise will downvote me, but the foolish will certainly
| upvote. :)
| apsurd wrote:
| the hell are you on about
| Thorrez wrote:
| >I don't have any subscriptions except for rent,
| transportation, a cloud VM, and a domain for my blog, and that
| has made an incredible difference.
|
| Amazon Prime is a tricky one: bundle shopping deals with
| streaming video. Youtube is also tricky: it's free.
|
| But despite having Amazon Prime and Youtube, I almost never
| watch movies, TV, play games, or doomscroll? How? I had a baby.
| No more time for any for any of that. Once he's old enough to
| want to watch movies or play games, then maybe I'll watch/play
| some with him, but he's too young currently.
| rednafi wrote:
| Watching movies with your baby is spending quality time in my
| book.
|
| Doomscrolling, buying random shit you don't need, not having
| the headspace to think clearly are the issues we were talking
| about.
| Carrok wrote:
| It is pretty easy to not subscribe to a service run by an
| objectively evil oligarch, but maybe that's just me.
|
| I'd rather support local retailers and not receive a fraud
| product.
| Aurornis wrote:
| > How? I had a baby. No more time for any for any of that.
|
| I actually got back into TV shows and books when we had kids.
| Lots of downtime holding and feeding the baby.
| rpastuszak wrote:
| > This doesn't mean I don't watch movies or have fun--it's just
| that watching movies requires jumping through a few hoops for
| me [...]
|
| A little bee told me that VLC + most torrent trackers are still
| a better UX than most Netflix/Apple TV/Prime video.
|
| None of them will crash after 30s of playback because your
| postcode changed for a week, because you have an ad blocker
| installed, or because you just plugged in an external display
| and some DRM magic kicked in. Just find the file, download it
| and double click.
| Aurornis wrote:
| > A little bee told me that VLC + most torrent trackers are
| still a better UX than most Netflix/Apple TV/Prime video.
|
| I can never understand these claims as anything other than
| mental gymnastics. There is no way you can convince me that
| it's better UX to navigate torrent sites, take all the time
| to download the file, hope it's a good copy, and launch it in
| VLC.
|
| Most of us have something like an Apple TV or other streaming
| box plugged into a TV. I can power it on and get to the show
| I want in seconds. It picks up where I left off. I don't have
| to worry about quality or subtitles or torrents.
|
| > Just find the file, download it and double click.
|
| The idea of just finding torrents, waiting for them to
| download, then fiddling with everything to get it in my TV is
| in no way a superior UX to the streaming services. I think
| these claims are just attempts to justify piracy as being
| superior UX, but it doesn't make sense.
| snailmailstare wrote:
| I wouldn't call VLC friendly UI, but it is the same UI I
| used when Netflix the DVD service began and the same UI I
| taught family members. When someone shows me Netflix, every
| year or two, I have no idea what I am looking at.
| MathMonkeyMan wrote:
| It helps if the search is integrated into the torrent
| client (qbittorrent) and if the computer is plugged into
| the tv (long hdmi cable).
|
| The UX benefit is that I figure out what I want to watch by
| browsing the web, then pick a download (lots of seeds,
| decent size), and before long I can start watching. Usually
| I queue up a few options in case my mood changes.
|
| It doesn't matter which service owns the rights, or which
| devices I'm using, or anything. I can watch the downloaded
| content whenever I want, forever. No trailers or
| unskippable notices. I'd pay money for this flexibility if
| I could.
| bravura wrote:
| Depends. That's true WHEN streaming services just work. But
| when they don't work, you're SOL with them and they just
| won't take your damn money.
|
| e.g. you live in EU but the account home is the US, or you
| live in Portugal and the streaming provider thinks you're
| in Spain, etc
| FollowingTheDao wrote:
| If you have to do as much as he does to get in the flow then you
| have no idea what flow is nor how to enter it. Much of what is
| says is a great help to seeing flow however.
|
| To find flow all you have to do is look around you because you
| are already in it.
|
| Flow is always happening and it is not personal to any one being.
|
| To get in the flow of a river you just have to jump in it. The
| minute you try to make the "perfect" river to jump in, that is
| man made flow, and not natural flow.
|
| One can even be in the flow while using social media.
|
| All you have to do is let go.
|
| Anyone looking for flow I would advise they read Zhuang Zhou:
|
| http://nothingistic.org/library/chuangtzu/
|
| "Horses can with their hoofs tread on the hoarfrost and snow, and
| with their hair withstand the wind and cold; they feed on the
| grass and drink water; they prance with their legs and leap:--
| this is the true nature of horses. Though there were made for
| them grand towers and large dormitories, they would prefer not to
| use them. But when Po-lao (arose and) said, 'I know well how to
| manage horses,' (men proceeded) to singe and mark them, to clip
| their hair, to pare their hoofs, to halter their heads, to bridle
| them and hobble them, and to confine them in stables and corrals.
| (When subjected to this treatment), two or three in every ten of
| them died. (Men proceeded further) to subject them to hunger and
| thirst, to gallop them and race them, and to make them go
| together in regular order. In front were the evils of the bit and
| ornamented breastbands, and behind were the terrors of the whip
| and switch. (When so treated), more than half of them died."
| itsalwaysgood wrote:
| Maybe there are different ideas about flow. But to me, flow is
| about eliminating distractions, and being creative without
| requiring too much pondering.
|
| Our brains are always looking for distractions. Having your
| phone nearby, or working in an area where distractions are
| easily accessible prevents flow. Your brain is always looking
| to be distracted, it's akin to how you are tuned to pay more
| attention when you hear your name called. Even if you think to
| yourself: I'm not going to touch my phone while I work, it's
| always there calling for your brain's attention.
|
| So step 1 to flow is removing distractions. Going to a library
| helps because you're cut off from many distractions and your
| brain stops "listening" for a bit.
|
| And then, you must be able to create something from what you
| already know. Fluent writing, art, programming can then "flow"
| directly from you into the real world without requiring looking
| up info, or taking tutorials.
|
| Flow has little to do with the "true nature of things", imo.
| FollowingTheDao wrote:
| > Maybe there are different ideas about flow. But to me, flow
| is about eliminating distractions, and being creative without
| requiring too much pondering.
|
| You are missing out on so much!
|
| > Our brains are always looking for distractions.
|
| They are? Then why resist your natural state? Horses have
| hooves for a reason
|
| > Having your phone nearby, or working in an area where
| distractions are easily accessible prevents flow.
|
| If you include "distractions" into the flow, then they are
| not distractions, but they are also part of the flow. It is
| called it "flow" because it is ever changing and ever moving,
| and it is something you unite with, not something you try to
| control. You want the river to bring you in a certain
| direction, and that is not flow.
|
| People who understand flow can see that flow happens when I
| pick up my coffee cup, or when I write this response. I am
| just writing, it is coming out, I do not care about the up or
| down voting.
|
| > Flow has little to do with the "true nature of things",
| imo.
|
| Can you move past opinions and get to the true nature of
| things?
| itsalwaysgood wrote:
| Yikes, sanctimonious drivel
| aquariusDue wrote:
| Eh, I'd say there's Flow(tm) and flooow as in surfer dude
| "Be one with the waves, brah" type of thing.
|
| I'm more of an "Ass in Chair, First Click is the Hardest"
| paradigm to Flow advocate.
| FollowingTheDao wrote:
| It is! Thank you!
| dasil003 wrote:
| This could be valuable advice for someone who is beating
| themselves up about not being perfect at controlling their
| focus (if they are ready to hear it).
|
| However it's also stated in a way that's disrespectful to
| the discussion. It's okay for people to have goals, and to
| strive and struggle towards them, resisting instinct that
| could undermine their efforts, and sometimes falling short
| and being disappointed. This is a natural part of the
| higher level reasoning we are blessed with.
| FollowingTheDao wrote:
| Talking about disrespect to someone who follows the Dao?
| It could be compassion for all you know!
|
| Talking about reasoning to someone who follows the Dao?
| Even more foolish! Reason only pulls you further from the
| Dao and so further from flow.
| dasil003 wrote:
| If you didn't see the Daoist angle in what I wrote then
| you're not as far along as you think
| FollowingTheDao wrote:
| It was not Daoist, it was Confucian.
| dasil003 wrote:
| Classifying a comment in that way is pretty much the
| opposite of Daoist
| aquariusDue wrote:
| Personally I use the hammy package in Emacs with the "Flywheel"
| timer from the examples to get into a flow, these days it's
| enough to just start it and unless I get distracted by outside
| forces I keep hammering away at my task(s) while disregarding
| the timer. In this way the timer itself serves as more of a
| Pavlovian trigger rather than an actual device with utility by
| itself.
|
| https://github.com/alphapapa/hammy.el
| crims0n wrote:
| Tangentially related, I finished "You Should Quit Reddit" by
| Jacob Desforges yesterday, at the recommendation of a fellow HN
| user. Definitely worth a read if you are leaning that way already
| and just need a few well-reasoned arguments to seal the deal.
| wayoverthecloud wrote:
| On a side note, I find that this flow state has it's addiction of
| it's own. I find myself doing whatever I can to find time for it.
| I feel like the reason mathematicians, physicists and artists of
| the past produced such great results is, they found the flow
| state so addictive, more addictive than balancing your health or
| family life, and thus dedicated almost entirety of their lives on
| it. Just have to be careful on that one. After all, our purpose
| is (I think) is not just working.
| TeMPOraL wrote:
| It is addictive, because it feels like living life at its
| fullest. It feels like life should _always_ feel.
|
| > _After all, our purpose is (I think) is not just working._
|
| Agreed, but I think that our purpose is _also_ not just
| experiencing, nor is it just eating, pairing up, multiplying,
| and dying (like all life on Earth does, + /- the pairing up
| stuff).
|
| I also feel that "working" != "working", specifically working
| for money usually stands _in opposition_ to the kind of work
| you 'd find fulfilling and that benefits from the state of
| flow.
| hinkley wrote:
| We associate things and people with the experiences where we
| encountered them.
|
| Once I made the same observation that GP did, I reflected
| back on conflicts over code. The most vitriolic arguments
| I've gotten into about design decisions at work have all,
| almost to a man, boiled down to the person who authored it
| having done so in flow state and how fucking dare you
| question the beauty of the output of that effort. They make
| it personal because the experience was deeply personal.
|
| Flow state cannot make nuanced ethical decisions. It's right
| in the characteristics. And both DevEx and maintainability
| come down to thinking about the people who have to deal with
| your code for the next four years.
|
| The only way I've been able to avoid this trap myself is to
| spent more effort on refactoring, taking notes, taking
| breaks, and saving up the Deep Work for special occasions
| where I have choreographed much of it ahead of time. So I
| know exactly what to do and why. Exploratory dev in flow
| state leads to all of these sins. Because you get the bear to
| dance and then you stop.
| sepositus wrote:
| I, for one, can do heavy bodily harm to myself if I attempt to
| live in this state for long periods. It turns out my mind is
| much stronger than my body. Perhaps the flow state removes the
| regular messages the body sends when it's had enough.
|
| Either way, life without play is dangerous for me.
| hinkley wrote:
| One of my tricks is keeping a glass of water at my desk.
| Filling the glass is a break. So is emptying my bladder. The
| break lets you reflect, and decide if you're chasing your
| tail or doing something questionable.
|
| Drinking is also a work appropriate fidget. Sip of water
| instead of tapping a pen or bouncing your leg. And easier on
| your kidneys than overdosing on caffeine all day.
| atoav wrote:
| Like with food one aspect to realize is that you can nudge
| yourself one way or another by making certain decisions in front.
|
| It is harder to eat unhealthy if you don't buy groceries that
| allow you to make unhealthy food. And you buy unhealthy food when
| you enter the grocery store hungry.
|
| Similar frontloaded decisions affect digital consumption. This is
| mostly about how we design the places where we consume, how we
| set up our devices etc.
|
| A good way to start is to switch off notifications for certain
| classes of apps and setup an automatic do-not-disturb based on
| your schedule (e.g. between 22:00 and 10:00). Don't put
| distracting apps on Desktop and home screens, those should only
| be opened by you if you actively decided to do so -- adding
| multiple steps to doing so is a feature, not a bug.
|
| If you really wanna go hardcore you could DNS block certain apps
| during certain times, forcing you to read a book instead.
|
| In the end it is just about creating an environment for yourself
| where the things you want to do are easier choices than the
| things you want to avoid.
| FrustratedMonky wrote:
| I agree with everything in this post, and have had similar
| reactions to changing environment.
|
| BUT. I think it is easy to lose sight that these practices only
| work for a small segment of society that have high paying jobs
| and a lot of freedom. And software engineers make up the bulk of
| them.
|
| I really do dig the Software Engineer = Artist Comparison. SE do
| 'create', use creativity to solve problems. And also 'creative'
| like a writer or poet, painter. And Flow is important.
|
| But also, there is a reason a lot of artists don't make a lot of
| money. And, sadly, the 'creative drive' to do Open Source
| projects, also does not pay.
|
| So, follow your dream to hang out in coffee shops writing code,
| but know that is a luxury that can end any minute, like with the
| first major illness.
| andai wrote:
| I found it difficult to work when connected to the internet.
| (Unmedicated ADHD.)
|
| So I'd turn it off before sleep (as part of basic "hygiene"), and
| keep it off (router and phone) for at least the first hour the
| next day.
|
| I'd wake up and begin working immediately. Usually I'd get so
| much done this way, that I'd choose to stay offline for a few
| more hours voluntarily.
|
| This routine I developed to deal with a disability is now being
| promoted by YouTube influencers as a productivity secret used by
| billionaires, which I find endlessly amusing!
| Temporary_31337 wrote:
| I recently got back into coding (thank you LLMs!) and I find this
| is much more isolating lifestyle. If I didn't find the problem
| solving so rewarding and money was not a consideration I would
| actually prefer a more social job with MORE distractions even
| though I consider myself introvert. A social job forces
| interactions on you. You may not become a better coder but you
| will become a better communicator and arguably a person that's
| easier to live or work with. So isolating and living distraction
| free is just a spectrum that you don't want to overdo in either
| direction.
| asdf6969 wrote:
| Why don't posts like this ever explain what the end goal is? The
| biggest problem in my life is that all this work and productivity
| feels meaningless. Everyone is always writing as if these goals
| are common knowledge but I don't even know why I work anymore
| other than I can't retire yet.
| neogodless wrote:
| > This is also what I find most rewarding and experienced as an
| author: writing in the flow state
|
| The idea is that "finding flow" or spending your limited and
| valuable time in the flow state is an ideal way to live your
| life. It's enjoyable.
|
| By definition, it's not an "end goal", but a life goal.
| asdf6969 wrote:
| I want to know where their goals and favourite source of flow
| come from. Do any of these bloggers know what they're writing
| or does it just sound good to other people who are also
| aimlessly playing on the computer? I want more depth.
|
| It's a lot more enjoyable and "flow"y to get stoned and watch
| YouTube all day everyday but I know that's not what he's
| talking about. I want to know what's so great about the work
| and personal lives of these productivity guru guys. Seems
| like they all just make another data analytics tool, AI toys,
| or write blogs for each other.
| neogodless wrote:
| I think you're mixing up concepts.
|
| Sure there are people that make a living from marketing
| self-help. Some of them might even really enjoy it.
|
| But _flow_ as defined in the book "Flow: The Psychology of
| Optimal Experience" by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi[0], is "a
| state of concentration or complete absorption with the
| activity at hand and the situation." In the book, it gives
| a few guide rails. Just enjoying something is different
| from it being in the sweet spot of challenging you,
| triggering growth, enabling you to learn something new or
| achieve something.
|
| Of course that could come from selling your book or making
| a YouTube video, but instead of focusing on other people,
| and their motivations, and what _they_ get out of whatever
| they 're doing, the whole point is to figure out where
| _you_ are really in a _flow_ state that you personally find
| fulfilling, and would want to repeat. If you can 't find
| that, then forget about, ignore all the information out
| there, and find a different life goal to pursue.
|
| [0] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/66354.Flow
| asdf6969 wrote:
| > focusing on other people, and their motivations, and
| what they get out of whatever they're doing
|
| I want to focus on this because I don't believe in the
| idea of an authentic self and I want to know how anyone
| can find something that makes them feel this way, or at
| least how they can trick themselves into thinking some
| boring topic like writing productivity advice blogs can
| feel meaningful. Put this guy's birth in 1800 and I'm
| sure he won't feel any sense of loss because he can't
| write anymore.
| Aurornis wrote:
| Work and focus aren't limited to your paid job. Focus states
| are helpful in everything to hobbies to inconsequential things
| like doing a puzzle alone or with friends.
|
| These techniques can be applied anywhere. The goals are
| entirely personal, so you can't expect to find them listed for
| you in someone else's blog post.
| purerandomness wrote:
| > The biggest problem in my life is that all this work and
| productivity feels meaningless.
|
| This is an entirely different, more high-level problem (like
| software architecture vs. specific algorithms)
|
| Commonly, some may have a short-term goal (get a promotion /
| climb the next step of the career ladder / finish university)
| which gives them intrinsic motivation in such a way that they
| can't rationally explain why they are attracted to that goal.
|
| Motivation might be derived from responsibility towards others:
| Trying to get more done to have more time for kids / elderly
| parents / partner / hobbies / side-project startup idea.
|
| "Feeling no purpose" however is a very common problem. There
| are coaching programs, retreats, therapy programs and books
| revolving around this topic.
|
| It tends to be complex, and could be a learned behaviour
| pattern where one neglects their true intrinsic interests;
| undiagnosed depression; being in a field your parents forced
| you into which you have no intrinsic interest in, or a mixture
| of those and some others.
|
| I agree that generally, the low-level optimization of flow
| states only makes sense once you have found your true calling.
| hinkley wrote:
| I'm reading The Choice right now. I can't tell you if it makes
| sense without having read at least The Goal, but I suspect not.
| But that book still sells 100k copies a year despite used
| copies being everywhere, because it's worth reading. The Choice
| may offer you some notions about the silver linings in failure.
| Eli loved when things failed because they helped him find the
| boundaries of the problem. Like a human SAT solver.
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