[HN Gopher] The Iconic 3DBenchy Enters the Public Domain
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The Iconic 3DBenchy Enters the Public Domain
Author : kotaKat
Score : 194 points
Date : 2025-02-14 21:39 UTC (1 days ago)
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| Philpax wrote:
| Happy to see a positive outcome here! Here's a great video that
| details the incident that led to this:
| https://youtu.be/P7BhMKqIkig
| devmor wrote:
| Zack's video on this subject was definitely the most clear and
| informative- definitely needed given the huge spread of
| misinformation.
| lathiat wrote:
| It was great. Glad to see the public domain change.
| Surprisingly sensible outcome.
| sitkack wrote:
| It looks to me like Zach's video is the thing that actually
| _fixed_ it. Good work Zach!
| pbronez wrote:
| Awesome to see the common sense solution become real
| Chernobog wrote:
| I love some of the community responses to the initial Benchy
| madness, such as the 3D Boaty, which is a bench.
|
| https://www.printables.com/model/1141963-3d-boaty
| Baeocystin wrote:
| Ok, that's hilarious. Thanks for posting it.
| MengerSponge wrote:
| Shades of /r/trees vs /r/marijuanaenthusiasts
| sitkack wrote:
| https://old.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/1ip7f87/the_ben.
| ..
|
| Is pretty stoked
| hovden wrote:
| The article does not explain how they entered it into the public
| domain. One cannot just declare something is public domain.
| Public domain is a special circumstance.
| kid64 wrote:
| That's nonsense, it sounds like you're only familiar with the
| concept of public domain in the context of copyright
| expiration.
| bityard wrote:
| > One cannot just declare something is public domain.
|
| Of course you can. Lots of people do this. There are whole
| websites that collect and distribute public domain photos,
| music, artwork, etc.
|
| I'm actually very curious now what led you to the line of
| thinking that it isn't possible?
| mananaysiempre wrote:
| (Not a lawyer.)
|
| Depends on the jurisdiction--e.g. Germany[1] is known to be
| particularly problematic. But in this particular case, the
| model has been released under CC0[2], which has a fallback
| permissive license alongside its public domain dedication,
| specifically to avoid this problem. That's why the CC0 is a
| thousand words long instead of a couple of sentences. Most
| sites hosting "public domain" works also use the CC0 or
| something similar.
|
| [1] https://opensource.stackexchange.com/q/9871
|
| [2] https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/legalco
| de....
| 6SixTy wrote:
| NAL either but D. J. Bernstein
| [https://cr.yp.to/publicdomain.html] says that you _can_
| use a work under public domain in Germany same as any other
| country (e.g. copying), but there 's a separate right to be
| credited for the work where applicable and protection for
| the author's reputation.
|
| So if I made Benchy longer and turned it into a rendition
| of the Titanic, I can't claim that it's 100% mine and no
| one else had a hand in making it under those rules.
| cpitman wrote:
| Surrendering work to the public domain is actually more
| complicated. It's easy to make the claim that a work is
| public domain, but the law may not allow you to actually
| relinquish all copyright claims. This also depends on which
| country you are in.
|
| This is why the CC0 license exists, to attempt to provide a
| more legally sound equivalent to plain public domain
| (https://creativecommons.org/public-domain/cc0/).
| M2Ys4U wrote:
| >I'm actually very curious now what led you to the line of
| thinking that it isn't possible?
|
| The public domain is the set of all works in which no
| copyright subsists. Copyright automatically subsists in a
| work from its creation until it expires. Copyright is a
| property right. All property _must_ have an owner.
|
| Therefore a work cannot enter the public domain unless the
| copyright subsisting in it has expired.
|
| (This is from the perspective of the law of England and
| Wales, at least. Other jurisdictions have similar legal
| axioms that produce the same result, though)
| dlgeek wrote:
| They actually just published it under a CC0 license which has
| equivalent effect.
| octacat wrote:
| nice, finally we can get all the remixes safely hosted in eu
| Multiplayer wrote:
| What's the current state of the art in 3d printers willing to
| spend 1k+. Is there an authoritative site for hardware?
| t0mas88 wrote:
| If you're willing to build it yourself the Voron 2.4 is fast
| and high quality.
|
| For an off the shelf product probably Bambu Lab.
| lawn wrote:
| The Voron Trident is also great I think and maybe even a
| better entry point as it's a little easier to build than the
| 2.4.
| FL410 wrote:
| Pretty much just go buy a Bambu X1C and be done with it. I've
| been through a bunch of 3d printers, all of which required
| constant tinkering and babysitting. The Bambu just works, you
| click print and it prints, and fast.
|
| There's some drama now around them closing up the ecosystem and
| locking out third party firmware, etc. but I honestly could
| care less so long as it stays good at being a printer.
| lrvick wrote:
| Prusa Core One if you want something you can actually own or
| repair yourself and to fund open innovation in this space.
|
| Bambu if you want to pay less for a proprietary rip-off of
| Prusa and totally trust them to always repair it for you, and
| with access to your network.
| wongarsu wrote:
| I don't get this take. Criticizing Bambu for being very
| proprietary is fair. But how are they a Prusa rip-off? Prusa
| has been selling various evolutions of their Mk3 bedslinger
| for years, while Bambu entered the market with CoreXY
| printers. And not only is their design different, the entire
| philosophy is different: Prusa is selling to enthusiasts who
| want to tinker with their printer, Bambu is selling an out-
| of-the-box experience that "just works". Basically the Apple
| among the printers, if Apple was cheaper than the competition
| and sold replacement parts.
| 0x457 wrote:
| > Bambu if you want to pay less for a proprietary rip-off of
| Prusa and totally trust them to always repair it for you, and
| with access to your network.
|
| Uhm, how could it be a ripoff if X1 cameout a year earlier
| than Prusa XL, the only CoreXY printer Prusa had until
| recently. Entirely different approach to multi-material
| printer (to both XL and MMU). Core One btw still has no mount
| solution for MMU3 that doesn't require you removing top lid.
|
| If one want to fund an actual open innovation then it should
| be something Voron related. You know...fully open-source
| printer.
|
| Right now Prusa is playing catch up: Mk4 was shipped with
| incomplete firmware.
|
| You get youself a Prusa if you're running a busy print farm
| or if you want to see what it was like to 3d printer 5 years
| ago and how user interfaces looked 15 years ago.
|
| BambuLab has fair share of controversies, but none of them
| were about printer perfomance.
| lawn wrote:
| Bambu Labs is usually the recommended one but if the various
| Youtubers are correct then there are better alternatives today.
|
| I'm hesitant to recommend any because I've only used the VORON
| Trident but if you search around you're bound to find
| alternatives.
| wongarsu wrote:
| If we only consider what you get today, nobody is beating
| Bambu yet. At least not if you want a printer that doesn't
| focus on customization and just does the right thing out of
| the box.
|
| Prusa's Core One could be a better option for print farms
| because Prusa is great at building printers for that kind of
| constant abuse. But for everyone else it's just a worse
| version of the Bambu X1C.
|
| However Bambu has gotten a lot of flak for their recent
| software changes. They have promised not to do anything evil
| with the currently released printers and to give customers
| escape hatches. But they are certainly at a moment where
| consumer trust is justifiably low, and it will take some time
| to grow that trust back
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