[HN Gopher] It's a knowledge problem Or is it?
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It's a knowledge problem Or is it?
Author : 0xKelsey
Score : 32 points
Date : 2025-02-12 09:28 UTC (3 days ago)
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| firesteelrain wrote:
| Blog makes some good points with limited application of this
| knowledge problem. Sometimes it is a a knowledge problem like not
| having the knowledge (read: experience) or critical skills to
| make the time to research or do a trade study on the right
| approach. Even if given the time, the wrong decision or action
| might still be taken. But then you have the knowledge for next
| time.
| angarg12 wrote:
| > the color coding program was completely misguided because it
| assumed that we didn't know what healthy food was. I challenged
| the nutritionist to an experiment: Make two plates of food, go
| into the restaurant at lunch time, and ask people to point out
| the healthier plate. My bet was that if you did not purposefully
| make it very tricky, people would unfailingly point to the right
| plate.
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| I wholeheartedly disagree.
|
| I used to struggled with weight most of my young years. No matter
| what I did I achieved incremental advances at best. At some point
| I decided to start "counting calories", something that I used to
| frown upon.
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| To my shock some foods that I ate that I considered "healthy"
| weren't so much so. This isn't even counting the fact that most
| experts can't even agree what is healthy or not, and opinions
| change over time.
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| Just like with coding, there are some black/white examples where
| the average person could make an easy distinction, but then there
| is a wide range of greys in the middle where people might not
| really know what's "good/bad".
| strken wrote:
| Is a three-colour code going to tell you what's healthy?
|
| I think I'd prefer a standard nutrition label, since I'd guess
| that a mushroom battered in almond meal and deep fried in olive
| oil is probably made of three green ingredients but will end up
| red in combination.
| yoyohello13 wrote:
| I had a similar experience. I think counting calories really
| does help in recalibrating your instincts around food. It even
| pushes you toward healthier options. It also naturally pushes
| you toward less calorie dense food. I remember a conversation
| with myself where it really clicked "I could eat this massive
| salad with ground beef and balsamic and feel full for hours or
| I can eat two microwave burritos and still feel hungry."
| jandrewrogers wrote:
| I think part of the problem here is that "healthy" in a
| nutritional quality sense is orthogonal to "healthy" in a
| caloric density sense.
| kiba wrote:
| It depends, really.
|
| Some people genuinely don't know what's healthy and what's not.
| Some people know what's healthy but having trouble resisting
| these temptation. Usually it's a mixture of both.
| xg15 wrote:
| OP indeed misunderstood the color coding program by treating it
| as a knowledge problem. Looks to me like it was much more about
| "nudging": It's one thing to decide for yourself, in your head,
| whether to have the tofu bowl or the fries for lunch. It's
| another to have both next to each other in the cafeteria, one
| authoritatively labeled with a green, the other with a red dot.
| Sure you can still choose the fries, but it will feel much more
| directly like "bad choice" than without the markers.
| firesteelrain wrote:
| It could have been combined with calorie counting and
| exercise/steps efforts too
| marginalia_nu wrote:
| Hasn't the nudging theory been pretty thoroughly debunked at
| this point?
| mtklein wrote:
| It hadn't yet been at the time this program was in practice.
| I wager the enthusiasm for nudging was probably around its
| peak at the time we're talking, somewhere early 2010s?
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