[HN Gopher] Jooki - Taking Control of a Forgotten Device
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       Jooki - Taking Control of a Forgotten Device
        
       Author : nfriedly
       Score  : 54 points
       Date   : 2025-02-10 05:53 UTC (4 days ago)
        
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       | userbinator wrote:
       | _This design appears to be intended for over-the-air (OTA)
       | updates but, if exploited by a malicious actor, could enable
       | remote code execution (RCE)._
       | 
       | RCE is what every automatic update functionality essentially is.
        
       | JimDabell wrote:
       | > But that dream turned into frustration when the company behind
       | Jooki went bankrupt, leaving countless devices bricked and
       | families frustrated.
       | 
       | It's situations like this that make me believe that software
       | should only qualify for copyright protection if its source code
       | is published. We do this with patents precisely so that
       | inventions don't disappear when their creators do. Why don't we
       | do this with software too?
        
         | spoaceman7777 wrote:
         | Unfortunately, there are certain major manufacturing countries
         | which don't respect copyright law, and constantly poach
         | everything from startups to kickstarters. :/
        
           | JimDabell wrote:
           | Do they respect patents any more than copyright?
        
           | sweeter wrote:
           | I think copyright is counterproductive and destroys
           | innovation more than copycats. Companies will evergreen
           | patents eternally and then sit on it forever and either die
           | out or become litigious trying to protect their patent. Just
           | look at Disney with Mickey mouse, Amazon bought up the best
           | text to speech system known to man and they literally don't
           | use it at all, or look at the medical industry... They spend
           | billions on slightly tweaking delivery methods to keep
           | patents alive for decades. It's grotesque. Or the nemesis
           | system in gaming.
           | 
           | Those countries are not going to abide anyways (and I
           | honestly don't care because this system is so messed up
           | anyways, 5 years should be more than enough time to make your
           | money) but instead we get rot.
        
         | robertlagrant wrote:
         | A couple of possibilities:
         | 
         | - copyright isn't patents, and copyright doesn't work this way
         | for other works
         | 
         | - why would this help? Companies could just not copyright the
         | server code, and not release it
        
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