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       Show HN: My first side project, streamlined book clubs on Slack
        
       Author : Papamanolis
       Score  : 82 points
       Date   : 2025-02-09 13:28 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
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       | Papamanolis wrote:
       | Hey people!
       | 
       | After years and years of wanting to start something and build a
       | product, I'm taking a jab at it!
       | 
       | So basically, me and a few of my coworkers wanted to create a
       | virtual book club since we are all working remotely and decided
       | why not automate it.
       | 
       | I've been working on booktalk, a Slack app that makes book clubs
       | easier to run. For now it will allow the team to get details and
       | suggestions about books, vote on books that they want to read,
       | set a timeframe for their reading cycle, and when the cycle ends,
       | it reaches out with a few relevant questions about the book!
       | 
       | Has any of you organized or participated in a virtual book club
       | before? What was your experience, any challenges that you faced
       | or features that were missing?
       | 
       | Fire away!
       | 
       | PS: Let me know if you have any feedback about the website too,
       | it was my first time creating a landing page!
        
         | gostsamo wrote:
         | Funnily enough, recently we started a bookclub in our office
         | and we are using slack. Not sure if we need the app, but we
         | might try it.
         | 
         | The biggest challenge for me is to accept when the team chooses
         | an obviously bad book, but they will learn with experience. A
         | feature about book details sounds good but depends on the
         | source and if it is marketing or a good critical one. Finding
         | the book in print would be a nice feature which is easy for
         | english and big countries, but might be hard otherwise.
         | 
         | Edit: maybe consider a feature for setups where people rotate
         | to choose the book if there is not one yet.
        
           | agscala wrote:
           | Maybe it would be valuable to have an anonymous "onboarding"
           | experience where people choose the genres they like or
           | dislike, and then the people choosing the book can be
           | informed a summary of the groups preferences.
           | 
           | Also an anonymous thumbs up/down after the book is read could
           | help the group choose a better next book
        
             | Papamanolis wrote:
             | Such a cool idea! I'm definitely going to explore this
             | feature for the upcoming release.
        
         | digdugdirk wrote:
         | The biggest feature that I'd love to see with a virtual book
         | club would be a way to "unlock" discussions based on how far
         | the into the book you are. The goal would be to make things
         | asynchronous (so you could read at your own pace) without
         | getting hit with spoilers.
        
           | fm2606 wrote:
           | That is a good idea.
        
           | Ntrails wrote:
           | > The goal would be to make things asynchronous (so you could
           | read at your own pace) without getting hit with spoilers.
           | 
           | I don't, personally, think that works super well?
           | 
           | I don't want to join in at the tail of a thorough discussion
           | and add my 2 cents to people who have moved on.
           | 
           | I also wouldn't want to keep getting dragged back to prior
           | threads on bits I won't remember as well (most specifically
           | where the spoilers start).
           | 
           | So, I could well be wrong, but it sounds awkward to _me_
        
       | dewey wrote:
       | Some landing page feedback: As Slack is mostly used in a
       | corporate context the first thing people will look at when they
       | add an app to their workspace would be the privacy policy and to
       | see if it's trustworthy. Would maybe be worth it to expand on
       | that a bit?
        
         | Papamanolis wrote:
         | That's a great point! Privacy is really important to me as
         | well, and I'm strongly against collecting anything beyond
         | what's necessary for the app to function. I'll work on adding a
         | dedicated section to clarify this as soon as possible. Really
         | appreciate you taking the time to share your feedback!
        
         | sudodan wrote:
         | Edit
        
       | ericholscher wrote:
       | Love this idea! We wrote up a post about the book club we were
       | running at our small company, and it was great for expanding
       | people's interest and understanding of different topics:
       | https://www.ethicalads.io/blog/2022/05/running-a-company-boo...
       | 
       | Picking a book was often the hardest part though, so this tool
       | having recommendations and voting seems like a really nice
       | solution.
        
         | Papamanolis wrote:
         | Hi, and thanks for the feedback! One of my top priorities right
         | now is learning as much as possible about online book club
         | experiences from others, so I really appreciate you sharing the
         | blog post!
         | 
         | Interesting to hear. Personally, finding a book was usually the
         | easiest part (probably because we have dozens waiting on our
         | 'to-read' lists). I'll do my best to make the book
         | recommendation experience as smooth as possible.
        
           | ericholscher wrote:
           | Yea we all have a lot of books to read, but trying to figure
           | out how the group wants to learn something and discuss is
           | hard. Especially when the goal is having some business
           | benefit, not just reading for fun.
           | 
           | There's a lot of "paper reading" clubs which might also be
           | interesting to look in to.
        
             | Papamanolis wrote:
             | That's a really interesting angle, I've never thought about
             | paper reading clubs before. They seem much more fast-paced
             | and could probably benefit from a shared notes side
             | feature! Thank you for the food for thought!
        
       | gmargaritis wrote:
       | I've been a part of various book clubs in the past, mostly in
       | person and few on Discord. One thing that really turned me off in
       | virtual ones was how people would post while reading, sometimes
       | creating small spoilers for others. I always wished for a way to
       | mark spoilers to avoid ruining surprises. Is this something you'd
       | consider adding?
        
         | Papamanolis wrote:
         | Thanks a bunch for the suggestion! I've run into the same issue
         | in online book clubs, so it's something that I'll definitely
         | add in the upcoming version!
        
       | angoragoats wrote:
       | Why would you build this on a platform that 1) is mostly used for
       | business communication and 2) requires a monthly per-user payment
       | if you want to see content older than 90 days? Why not make it a
       | standalone tool? Then you could always offer an optional Slack
       | integration for those who wish to use it at work.
        
         | Papamanolis wrote:
         | Good point! I know there are a lot of book club communities on
         | Discord and other platforms, but we were already using Slack
         | and didn't want to migrate to another platform just for the
         | book club. It just felt like the easiest way to get started.
        
         | layer8 wrote:
         | Regarding #2, this book club service will presumably become a
         | paid service anyway, so it's only a matter of how much you need
         | to pay.
        
           | angoragoats wrote:
           | It doesn't make a lot of sense to me to compare paying an
           | indie hacker for a service that you actually find valuable to
           | paying Salesforce for a text communication tool.
        
       | maroonblazer wrote:
       | Looking at the first few questions from the survey, this seems
       | geared specifically to work-oriented book clubs. I.e., book clubs
       | in a professional context. FWIW, I was hoping for/expecting one
       | that was free of those associations. It might be worth spelling
       | that out more explicitly on the landing page.
        
         | Papamanolis wrote:
         | Thank you for the feedback! The app isn't specifically centered
         | around work-related book clubs, and it can be used in any Slack
         | workspace. It's just that Slack is often thought of as a work
         | tool, so that association tends to stick. I'll make sure to
         | clarify this on the landing page!
        
       | bmelton wrote:
       | Not surprising that Lighthouse didn't catch it, but the white
       | text on the peachish background lacks contrast for accessibility
       | and would be quite hard to read for the visually impaired / older
       | audiences.
       | 
       | (If that's something you're concerned with)
        
         | Tempest1981 wrote:
         | Agreed, the white text is very low contrast against the plasma
         | background. Did you intend dark text?
        
         | Papamanolis wrote:
         | Great point! I've just updated it. Thanks for the feedback.
        
           | bmelton wrote:
           | MUCH improved!
        
       | 4b11b4 wrote:
       | Why slack.. cuz it has huddles integrated?
       | 
       | Just build on Zed at that point.
        
       | leetrout wrote:
       | I built the bones of the same thing! :)
       | 
       | Curious what stacks and tools you are using. I went with Bolt on
       | AWS Lambda.
        
       | dyeje wrote:
       | Congrats on shipping. Curious, why Slack? Is this intended for
       | book clubs at companies specifically?
        
       | treylayton wrote:
       | landing page is super aesthetically pleasing. for my last
       | project, i built v1 as a discord bot, and my conversion rate from
       | "yes i'll try it" to sign ups was abysmal. kept asking and
       | finally realized it was because people didn't want to use discord
       | or slack or some third-party service to access the tool. others
       | have touched on it, but if you want to expand beyond corporate
       | book clubs, would probably recommend building it out as a
       | standalone service, or maybe into imessage or whatsapp?
        
       | catinblack wrote:
       | I can't submit the form. I have "something went wrong" error
        
         | Papamanolis wrote:
         | Sorry about that! The site was hugged to death, you can retry
         | now!
        
       | ignaciodiaz wrote:
       | The landing page looks great. What did you use for the
       | animations?
        
         | Papamanolis wrote:
         | Thank you so much! I built the website using Framer. For the
         | animations I used https://particles.page/ but as i see now the
         | component is no longer available.
        
       | kojeovo wrote:
       | is discussion history retained? or is it wiped cuz of free slack
       | tier?
        
       | the__alchemist wrote:
       | Jira integration next! This sounds great for leadership and team-
       | building literature.
        
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