[HN Gopher] Government planned it 7 years, beavers built a dam i...
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       Government planned it 7 years, beavers built a dam in 2 days and
       saved $1M
        
       Author : croes
       Score  : 58 points
       Date   : 2025-02-04 21:13 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | wtcactus wrote:
       | I think this is the most beautiful example I have ever seen of
       | how inefficient, wasteful and unnecessary is almost all of the
       | government.
       | 
       | If the beavers built it in two days, it means that half a dozen
       | men could have easily built it at an extremely low cost in a
       | week.
       | 
       | Instead, they were planning it, fighting bureocracy and wasting
       | money for years.
        
         | iancmceachern wrote:
         | I dont know, this is literally what beavers do. I think you are
         | really selling the beavers short here.
         | 
         | I mean they've been evolving and being naturally selected to
         | optimize for this specific activity for eons.
         | 
         | You wouldn't expect the government to be better at making honey
         | than bees? Better at swimming and catching fish than a dolphin?
         | Better at making silk than silk worms?
         | 
         | If I was going to be #2 at Dam building I'd want to be #2,to
         | beavers.
        
           | pavel_lishin wrote:
           | Yeah. You could argue that nature has been planning this dam
           | for 2.4 million years. (Though, granted, it spent no money
           | doing so.)
        
             | wahern wrote:
             | Nature's currency is blood.
        
               | ok_dad wrote:
               | It's time, actually. Natures currency is a butt ton of
               | time.
        
         | baerrie wrote:
         | Friction in government is a good thing, otherwise the will of
         | the few would outweigh the many and catastrophic projects would
         | be allowed all of the time. Yes men could have done it but they
         | wouldn't maintain it like the beavers and they certainly
         | wouldn't have done it in a way that fits with natural cycles
         | like the beavers did. This is more of a case for fewer nature
         | altering projects and more restoration of ecosystems
        
         | jncfhnb wrote:
         | I challenge you to build a beaver dam in 30 days.
        
           | stickfigure wrote:
           | "Start with two beavers..."
        
         | fastasucan wrote:
         | >If the beavers built it in two days, it means that half a
         | dozen men could have easily built it at an extremely low cost
         | in a week.
         | 
         | Not at all.
        
       | david_allison wrote:
       | Any reliable sources on this?
        
         | kseistrup wrote:
         | There's a Czech source that some seems to refer to:
         | https://english.radio.cz/beavers-build-planned-dams-protecte...
        
       | teekert wrote:
       | I suddenly found myself to be a consultant, part of the
       | assignment was to construct a governance model. I found it such a
       | vague unsticky term that I developed the mantra: "Governance: How
       | decisions are being made". And it opened my eyes because in so
       | many places there is no process for how decisions are being made,
       | and they are just not being made.
       | 
       | Yeah I know, but I'm just a molecular biologist, it's easy to see
       | how a bacterium decides to move up a food gradient. But Humans...
       | oh boy.
        
       | dyauspitr wrote:
       | Is there a way to direct or coax beavers into building exactly
       | where you want?
        
         | FaridIO wrote:
         | You'd probably have to go through a similar set of bureaucratic
         | steps to get that done.
        
         | pavel_lishin wrote:
         | Sort of! Beavers build dams as an instinctive response to the
         | sound of running water.
         | 
         | If you have pet beavers in your house, and down put a phone
         | playing the sound of running water, they'll start dragging
         | stuff over to where the phone is.
        
           | teruakohatu wrote:
           | How common are beavers as indoor pets ?
        
             | thatguy0900 wrote:
             | In the US at least I don't think it's legal anywhere
             | without a permit. I've seen videos like op has posted, it's
             | usually rescue animals being looked after not actual
             | housepets
        
       | anotherhue wrote:
       | Are these undocumented beavers?
        
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