[HN Gopher] Open Euro LLM: Open LLMs for Transparent AI in Europe
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       Open Euro LLM: Open LLMs for Transparent AI in Europe
        
       Author : joecobb
       Score  : 26 points
       Date   : 2025-02-03 20:56 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (openeurollm.eu)
 (TXT) w3m dump (openeurollm.eu)
        
       | NunoSempere wrote:
       | They just shipped a frontpage; there is no model yet.
        
       | moffkalast wrote:
       | > The models will be developed within Europe's robust regulatory
       | framework, ensuring alignment with European values while
       | maintaining technological excellence
       | 
       | As a European, that's practically an oxymoron. The more one
       | limits oneself to legally clean data, the worse the models will
       | be.
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       | I hate to be pessimistic from the get go, but it doesn't sound
       | like anything useful will be produced by this and we'll have to
       | keep relying on Google to do proper multilinguality in open
       | models because Mistral can't be arsed to bother beyond French and
       | German.
        
         | htrp wrote:
         | >Mistral can't be arsed to bother beyond French and German.
         | 
         | Any more details here or a writeup you can link to?
        
           | moffkalast wrote:
           | My own experience mainly, only Gemma seems to have been any
           | good for Slavic languages so far, and only the 27B when
           | unquantized is reliable enough to be in any way usable.
           | 
           | Ravenwolf posts tests on his German benchmarks every so often
           | in locallama and most models seem to do well enough, but I've
           | heard some claims from people about Mistral's being their
           | favorite models in German anyhow. And I think Mistral-Large
           | scores higher than Llama-405B in French on lmsys and that's
           | at least something one would expect from a French company.
        
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