[HN Gopher] A history of APL in the USSR (1991)
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       A history of APL in the USSR (1991)
        
       Author : todsacerdoti
       Score  : 70 points
       Date   : 2025-01-30 13:18 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
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       | alex_weiner wrote:
       | TLDR: if you knew APL in the USSR, there's a 99.9% you were
       | working on the nuclear program.
        
       | natas wrote:
       | This is a really great article, I really enjoyed the part that
       | covers APL*PLUS/PC and APL2 which we can still use today;
       | unfortunately it's likely that the mainframe implementations of
       | APL are no longer available.
        
         | pdw wrote:
         | The source code for APL\360 was published by the Computer
         | History Museum. People have gotten this to run under Hercules.
         | https://computerhistory.org/blog/the-apl-programming-languag...
         | 
         | Mainframe APL2 is still marketed I think
        
           | natas wrote:
           | Ah that's true, and it's worth mentioning Jurgen Winkelmann's
           | mvt4apl project. https://web.archive.org/web/20221120082731/h
           | ttp://wotho.ethz...
        
         | p_l wrote:
         | Volvo has been migrating from IBM mainframe APL implementations
         | within I think last decade or so?
        
       | WillAdams wrote:
       | Interesting for its mention of:
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       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analitik
       | 
       | unfortunately, not finding anything for "Anatalik-2010" which is
       | supposed to be used/usable as a computer algebra system ---
       | anything interesting on that which would make it worth pursuing
       | further?
        
         | svilen_dobrev wrote:
         | search for <<< "Analitik" iazyk >>>
         | 
         | results in russian/ukrainian/bulgarian, and actual
         | accessibility is unknown
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         | https://ya.ru/neurum/c/nauka-i-obrazovanie/q/gde_mozhno_nayt...
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         | pff whole book from 1982 comparing it to fortran/algol :
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         | https://unicat.nalis.bg/Record/RU.000025764#description
        
         | drysine wrote:
         | I've found a high-level overview, which looks more like a plan
         | of what they intended to do[0] and another article[1]. The
         | latest article from the same authors I found is from 2015 [2],
         | but I've failed to find the full text.
         | 
         | Here are the contacts:                 V.P. KLIMENKO*, A.L.
         | LIaKhOV**, D.N. GVOZDIK**       *Institut problem
         | matematicheskikh mashin i sistem NAN Ukrainy       03187 g.
         | Kiev-187, pr. Glushkova, 42       tel.: +38-044-526-55-76,
         | e-mail: klimenko@immsp.kiev.ua       **Poltavskii natsional'nyi
         | tekhnicheskii universitet im. Iuriia Kondratiuka       36011 g.
         | Poltava, Pervomaiskii prospekt, 24       tel.:
         | +38-053-256-98-02, e-mail: LAL@pntu.edu.ua; wedevelope@i.ua
         | 
         | Sadly, Klimenko must be well over 80 years old now if he hasn't
         | passed away.
         | 
         | [0] https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/reinzhiniring-sistemy-
         | komp...
         | 
         | [1]
         | https://fizmat.smolgu.ru/images/stories/SCMP_2013/scmp-2010....
         | 
         | [2]
         | https://reposit.nupp.edu.ua/bitstream/PoltNTU/4065/1/%D0%9C%...
        
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